If you believe in God

[Óðinn]

^But that wasn't the question...

Still well put though. Thing is... time is a collective (Earth as One) we all move together (Earth as one). Our time (Earth as a whole) is one. Movement around the sun, the axis tilt etc...all one.

[Óðinn]

^But that wasn't the question...

Still well put though. Thing is... time is a collective (Earth as One) we all move together (Earth as one). Our time (Earth as a whole) is one. Movement around the sun, the axis tilt etc...all one.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by 2FUEL

^But that wasn't the question...

Still well put though. Thing is... time is a collective (Earth as One) we all move together (Earth as one). Our time (Earth as a whole) is one. Movement around the sun, the axis tilt etc...all one.

Not true. Time is relative...hence Einstein's "General Theory of RELATIVITY" that deals with time and space. They've done experiments where they placed atomic clocks on airplanes, synchronized them with atomic clocks on the ground, then flew the airplanes around the world. When it was all said and done, the atomic clocks on the planes were 1/6,000,000th of a second ahead of the ones on the ground. That is a very minute difference that would not be noticeable by any of us, but its still a real difference. So somebody flying on a plane right now is actually experiencing time at a very slightly different rate than you.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by 2FUEL

^But that wasn't the question...

Still well put though. Thing is... time is a collective (Earth as One) we all move together (Earth as one). Our time (Earth as a whole) is one. Movement around the sun, the axis tilt etc...all one.

Not true. Time is relative...hence Einstein's "General Theory of RELATIVITY" that deals with time and space. They've done experiments where they placed atomic clocks on airplanes, synchronized them with atomic clocks on the ground, then flew the airplanes around the world. When it was all said and done, the atomic clocks on the planes were 1/6,000,000th of a second ahead of the ones on the ground. That is a very minute difference that would not be noticeable by any of us, but its still a real difference. So somebody flying on a plane right now is actually experiencing time at a very slightly different rate than you.

[Óðinn]

^ i am aware of that... i meant on a grander scale of things...Outside of our world/atmosphere.

I mean this thread is about God....not about us. We have diff time On/within/all around our planet. But outside it, is a diff story.

[Óðinn]

^ i am aware of that... i meant on a grander scale of things...Outside of our world/atmosphere.

I mean this thread is about God....not about us. We have diff time On/within/all around our planet. But outside it, is a diff story.

Noble your missing the point of all these arguments... i don't care about your subjective view of God or Morality

im giving specific criteria (Christian God for 1st argument. North American standard of good/evil for 2nd argument) then arguing the logistics of it

get outta here with that 'everything is subjective' shit

Noble your missing the point of all these arguments... i don't care about your subjective view of God or Morality

im giving specific criteria (Christian God for 1st argument. North American standard of good/evil for 2nd argument) then arguing the logistics of it

get outta here with that 'everything is subjective' shit

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Shiny Face

Noble your missing the point of all these arguments... i don't care about your subjective view of God or Morality

im giving specific criteria (Christian God for 1st argument. North American standard of good/evil for 2nd argument) then arguing the logistics of it

get outta here with that 'everything is subjective' shit

Nah son. The question you asked to begin with was illogical.

Originally Posted by Shiny Face

as an ALL powerful being. infinite in every sense of the word.. wouldn't he then be able to create a being greater than himself?

Any logical question includes an idea that invites an answer, even if that idea is not very clear or well defined. Nothing is "greater" than infinity by definition, so to ask "wouldn't an infinite being be able to create a being "greater" than himself" doesn't make sense...unless you're talking "greater" in a subjective sense.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Shiny Face

Noble your missing the point of all these arguments... i don't care about your subjective view of God or Morality

im giving specific criteria (Christian God for 1st argument. North American standard of good/evil for 2nd argument) then arguing the logistics of it

get outta here with that 'everything is subjective' shit

Nah son. The question you asked to begin with was illogical.

Originally Posted by Shiny Face

as an ALL powerful being. infinite in every sense of the word.. wouldn't he then be able to create a being greater than himself?

Any logical question includes an idea that invites an answer, even if that idea is not very clear or well defined. Nothing is "greater" than infinity by definition, so to ask "wouldn't an infinite being be able to create a being "greater" than himself" doesn't make sense...unless you're talking "greater" in a subjective sense.

[Student]

Should You Really Be Concerned Though? Billions Of People Have Pondered This Since The Existence Of Man But Not One Has Even Been Considered To Be Remotely Correct And Accepted Universally As The "Truth".
We Should Just Try To Live Our Lives Decently While We're On This "Journey" Cause We All Have The Same "Exit", Death. Only Then (And Even Then We Might Not Know) What Is Actually Going On.

[Student]

Should You Really Be Concerned Though? Billions Of People Have Pondered This Since The Existence Of Man But Not One Has Even Been Considered To Be Remotely Correct And Accepted Universally As The "Truth".
We Should Just Try To Live Our Lives Decently While We're On This "Journey" Cause We All Have The Same "Exit", Death. Only Then (And Even Then We Might Not Know) What Is Actually Going On.

yo anyone not trying to debate this gtfo

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Originally Posted by NOBLE

Nah son. The question you asked to begin with was illogical.



Any logical question includes an idea that invites an answer, even if that idea is not very clear or well defined. Nothing is "greater" than infinity by definition, so to ask "wouldn't an infinite being be able to create a being "greater" than himself" doesn't make sense...unless you're talking "greater" in a subjective sense.

i mean greater in whatever makes god infinitely great. to say there is nothing greater than infinite so god can't create it is saying god does not have infinite creative powers.. but we already got to the answer of this, anything created by god is lesser than god for having a creator

yo anyone not trying to debate this gtfo

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Originally Posted by NOBLE

Nah son. The question you asked to begin with was illogical.



Any logical question includes an idea that invites an answer, even if that idea is not very clear or well defined. Nothing is "greater" than infinity by definition, so to ask "wouldn't an infinite being be able to create a being "greater" than himself" doesn't make sense...unless you're talking "greater" in a subjective sense.

i mean greater in whatever makes god infinitely great. to say there is nothing greater than infinite so god can't create it is saying god does not have infinite creative powers.. but we already got to the answer of this, anything created by god is lesser than god for having a creator

already have, didn't give it it's due though

already have, didn't give it it's due though

[Óðinn]

@NOBLE If God gives you a watch, are you honoring Him more by asking Him what time it is or by simply consulting the watch?

[Óðinn]

@NOBLE If God gives you a watch, are you honoring Him more by asking Him what time it is or by simply consulting the watch?

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by 2FUEL

@NOBLE If God gives you a watch, are you honoring Him more by asking Him what time it is or by simply consulting the watch?

I'm not sure exactly where you are getting at. I don't believe in a personal God so I wouldn't know much about honoring him.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by 2FUEL

@NOBLE If God gives you a watch, are you honoring Him more by asking Him what time it is or by simply consulting the watch?

I'm not sure exactly where you are getting at. I don't believe in a personal God so I wouldn't know much about honoring him.