Congrats Cristiano Ronaldo

[OSKAR]

AAAhhh...

I can't explain it...Ofc messi and ronaldo are the better players but to me it's like the LB HOF n my views on it. You shouldn't go in if you haven't won a major tournament and Ribery won everything last season...Like the NBA MVP....it doesn't matter that durant scores more lebron gets it cause his team had the most success because of him...

Plus they voted Ribery as the C.L POTY and his team won the competition so that'll be a bonus. I get what you guys are sayin tho

[OSKAR]

AAAhhh...

I can't explain it...Ofc messi and ronaldo are the better players but to me it's like the LB HOF n my views on it. You shouldn't go in if you haven't won a major tournament and Ribery won everything last season...Like the NBA MVP....it doesn't matter that durant scores more lebron gets it cause his team had the most success because of him...

Plus they voted Ribery as the C.L POTY and his team won the competition so that'll be a bonus. I get what you guys are sayin tho

[J u s T C]

I think it would be a scandal if Ribery won it after the season Ronaldo had after Messi won it 4 seasons on the bounce.

I'd try not to think of it in terms of NBA criteria. Because as much as I fuck with Basketball it's not as versatile as Football. The NBA is 1 mission and 1 goal. To win the NBA. The EPL players is 4 5 6 7 goals.

Win the EPL.
Win the Carling Cup
Win the FA Cup
Win the Champions League
Win the Europa League
Win the Super Cup
Win the Charity Shield
Win the World Club Cup
Qualify for the European Championships
Qualify for the World Cup
Win the above 2.

And that's just in England.

[J u s T C]

I think it would be a scandal if Ribery won it after the season Ronaldo had after Messi won it 4 seasons on the bounce.

I'd try not to think of it in terms of NBA criteria. Because as much as I fuck with Basketball it's not as versatile as Football. The NBA is 1 mission and 1 goal. To win the NBA. The EPL players is 4 5 6 7 goals.

Win the EPL.
Win the Carling Cup
Win the FA Cup
Win the Champions League
Win the Europa League
Win the Super Cup
Win the Charity Shield
Win the World Club Cup
Qualify for the European Championships
Qualify for the World Cup
Win the above 2.

And that's just in England.

[ELOH STACKz]

If that's the case, LeBron won the MVP twice when he was in Cleveland & they haven't won a Title in decades. D-Rose was MVP & his team lost in the Eastern Conference Semis. It's not a team award, that's why guys like Tim Duncan or Chris Paul never win it @OSKAR. I shut that Ribery shit dowwwn @Just C. Lol

[ELOH STACKz]

If that's the case, LeBron won the MVP twice when he was in Cleveland & they haven't won a Title in decades. D-Rose was MVP & his team lost in the Eastern Conference Semis. It's not a team award, that's why guys like Tim Duncan or Chris Paul never win it @OSKAR. I shut that Ribery shit dowwwn @Just C. Lol

[OSKAR]

U missing the fact that the MVP award is given before the play offs so what I mean with success is the better NBA regular season record...but other than that i dont see ur point ...I see just's tho..i might have to reconsider

[OSKAR]

U missing the fact that the MVP award is given before the play offs so what I mean with success is the better NBA regular season record...but other than that i dont see ur point ...I see just's tho..i might have to reconsider

[Obey]

@ELOH_STACKz Did you just claim Jordan doesn't have as much physical abilities as LeBron? Only thing LeBron got on Jordan is height/weight.. Jordan had one of the best footwork the game's ever seen, 43 inch vertical, one of the most finesse finishers in traffic ever.

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Originally Posted by Just C

I think it would be a scandal if Ribery won it after the season Ronaldo had after Messi won it 4 seasons on the bounce.

I'd try not to think of it in terms of NBA criteria. Because as much as I fuck with Basketball it's not as versatile as Football. The NBA is 1 mission and 1 goal. To win the NBA. The EPL players is 4 5 6 7 goals.

Win the EPL.
Win the Carling Cup
Win the FA Cup
Win the Champions League
Win the Europa League
Win the Super Cup
Win the Charity Shield
Win the World Club Cup
Qualify for the European Championships
Qualify for the World Cup
Win the above 2.

And that's just in England.

While this is true, the NBA has more to play for in 1 season though. Basically giving it their all in them 82 games.

[Obey]

@ELOH_STACKz Did you just claim Jordan doesn't have as much physical abilities as LeBron? Only thing LeBron got on Jordan is height/weight.. Jordan had one of the best footwork the game's ever seen, 43 inch vertical, one of the most finesse finishers in traffic ever.

---------- Post added at 05:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Just C

I think it would be a scandal if Ribery won it after the season Ronaldo had after Messi won it 4 seasons on the bounce.

I'd try not to think of it in terms of NBA criteria. Because as much as I fuck with Basketball it's not as versatile as Football. The NBA is 1 mission and 1 goal. To win the NBA. The EPL players is 4 5 6 7 goals.

Win the EPL.
Win the Carling Cup
Win the FA Cup
Win the Champions League
Win the Europa League
Win the Super Cup
Win the Charity Shield
Win the World Club Cup
Qualify for the European Championships
Qualify for the World Cup
Win the above 2.

And that's just in England.

While this is true, the NBA has more to play for in 1 season though. Basically giving it their all in them 82 games.

[ELOH STACKz]

Originally Posted by Obey

@ELOH_STACKz Did you just claim Jordan doesn't have as much physical abilities as LeBron? Only thing LeBron got on Jordan is height/weight.. Jordan had one of the best footwork the game's ever seen, 43 inch vertical, one of the most finesse finishers in traffic ever.

Jordan's the man. Just like Messi is... But there's no denying the fact that LeBron & Ronaldo are superior athletes. U said it urself: LeBron's bigger, heavier, waaaaay stronger than Jordan ever was (MJ was a twig). LeBron's vertical might have been better than MJ's, & u wanna talk about Finishers in traffic? Niggas don't even jump anymore when LeBron skies up to bang one. There's no point, opponents can't win.

Jordan has more rings, more MVPs, more "Legendary" accomplishments. & that's why he gets the praise. But just like Messi, MJ didn't win shhhhhhit until he got help. Pippen is one of the 50th Greatest NBA players off all time for a reason. Messi wouldn't be the same without Xavi & Iniesta.

Only thing Messi got on Cristiano is he's a better passer & is more dynamic with the ball. He creates space extremely well in tight spots. But for Physical tools? No question Ronaldo towers over Messi. Every Messi goal is the fucking same. Either Iniesta releases him on a break or they work the ball into the final third, he spots up in front of the 18 yard box & peppers the goal. I've seen Ronaldo score: from the left, from the right, front midfield, inside the box, on free kicks, I'll save headers for last. Cuz I've never even seen a Messi header in my Life. The nigga is a midget. He took HGH steroids as a kid cuz he was a dwarf. I know he scores a lot & looks good doing it.

But that's always been my Knock on niggas like Carmelo Anthony & Vince Carter. Just cuz u score the most doesn't mean ur the best. It's HOW U SCORE... Melo averages 26.5 pts a game, but it takes him 24 shots to do son. In comparison, somebody like KD scores 26pts too, but he does it in 17 shots. & from EVERYWHERE on the court: mid-range, 3pts, lay-ups, in the post, at the free throw line, etc. u feel me? @Obey

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I argue Messi/Ronaldo AND Jordan/LeBron all the time with my boys. I got years of stored up ammunition to fire at the no believers. Lol

[ELOH STACKz]

Originally Posted by Obey

@ELOH_STACKz Did you just claim Jordan doesn't have as much physical abilities as LeBron? Only thing LeBron got on Jordan is height/weight.. Jordan had one of the best footwork the game's ever seen, 43 inch vertical, one of the most finesse finishers in traffic ever.

Jordan's the man. Just like Messi is... But there's no denying the fact that LeBron & Ronaldo are superior athletes. U said it urself: LeBron's bigger, heavier, waaaaay stronger than Jordan ever was (MJ was a twig). LeBron's vertical might have been better than MJ's, & u wanna talk about Finishers in traffic? Niggas don't even jump anymore when LeBron skies up to bang one. There's no point, opponents can't win.

Jordan has more rings, more MVPs, more "Legendary" accomplishments. & that's why he gets the praise. But just like Messi, MJ didn't win shhhhhhit until he got help. Pippen is one of the 50th Greatest NBA players off all time for a reason. Messi wouldn't be the same without Xavi & Iniesta.

Only thing Messi got on Cristiano is he's a better passer & is more dynamic with the ball. He creates space extremely well in tight spots. But for Physical tools? No question Ronaldo towers over Messi. Every Messi goal is the fucking same. Either Iniesta releases him on a break or they work the ball into the final third, he spots up in front of the 18 yard box & peppers the goal. I've seen Ronaldo score: from the left, from the right, front midfield, inside the box, on free kicks, I'll save headers for last. Cuz I've never even seen a Messi header in my Life. The nigga is a midget. He took HGH steroids as a kid cuz he was a dwarf. I know he scores a lot & looks good doing it.

But that's always been my Knock on niggas like Carmelo Anthony & Vince Carter. Just cuz u score the most doesn't mean ur the best. It's HOW U SCORE... Melo averages 26.5 pts a game, but it takes him 24 shots to do son. In comparison, somebody like KD scores 26pts too, but he does it in 17 shots. & from EVERYWHERE on the court: mid-range, 3pts, lay-ups, in the post, at the free throw line, etc. u feel me? @Obey

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I argue Messi/Ronaldo AND Jordan/LeBron all the time with my boys. I got years of stored up ammunition to fire at the no believers. Lol

[Obey]

.. ''Until he got help'' - Didn't LeBron JOIN 2 other superstars, the best 3 point shooter ever and a great supporting cast to win?

[Obey]

.. ''Until he got help'' - Didn't LeBron JOIN 2 other superstars, the best 3 point shooter ever and a great supporting cast to win?