Who/What do you believe in?

[Streetz De Hood]

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

[Streetz De Hood]

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because like you said Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, then if you go on to read the next six verses, you will see Jesus explaining that his foes were wrong to think that he was saying he is God.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).

This shows that jesus and God had two different wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.

Also according to the bible Jesus said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsaken the other, then they must be two separate entities. Right?

@JimmyDean Are you saying God came to earth as a Human? And Talks to himself and says Why have i forsaken myself? again no disrespect fam.

Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because like you said Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, then if you go on to read the next six verses, you will see Jesus explaining that his foes were wrong to think that he was saying he is God.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).

This shows that jesus and God had two different wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.

Also according to the bible Jesus said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsaken the other, then they must be two separate entities. Right?

@JimmyDean Are you saying God came to earth as a Human? And Talks to himself and says Why have i forsaken myself? again no disrespect fam.

[Streetz De Hood]

Originally Posted by Fidel Z

John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because like you said Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, then if you go on to read the next six verses, you will see Jesus explaining that his foes were wrong to think that he was saying he is God.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).

This shows that jesus and God had two different wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.

Also according to the bible Jesus said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsaken the other, then they must be two separate entities. Right?

@JimmyDean Are you saying God came to earth as a Human? And Talks to himself and says Why have i forsaken myself? again no disrespect fam.

I don't argue scriptures vs scriptures. It's all God's word. All I wanted to do was point out where Jesus himself said it. Understanding the grey areas come when your relationship with God strengthens... You want to understand? Go to church, bible study, pray and read.

[Streetz De Hood]

Originally Posted by Fidel Z

John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because like you said Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, then if you go on to read the next six verses, you will see Jesus explaining that his foes were wrong to think that he was saying he is God.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).

This shows that jesus and God had two different wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.

Also according to the bible Jesus said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsaken the other, then they must be two separate entities. Right?

@JimmyDean Are you saying God came to earth as a Human? And Talks to himself and says Why have i forsaken myself? again no disrespect fam.

I don't argue scriptures vs scriptures. It's all God's word. All I wanted to do was point out where Jesus himself said it. Understanding the grey areas come when your relationship with God strengthens... You want to understand? Go to church, bible study, pray and read.

Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

the bible is not always literal.

look at the context around that verse..

verse 25: Jesus says he does the works of his Father
verse 27-29: Jesus talkin bout symbolic sheep his Father gave him

^^ both wouldnt make sense to those listening if they (God n Jesus) were one.

instead Jesus said 'My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father' (based from 29). Similar to you saying to ya pop's enemy "if you attack my dad you attack me". Jesus and his Father are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, values, standards..

therefore, that scripture only shows the strong bond of unity between them.


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Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

@Fidel Z.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

the bible is not always literal.

look at the context around that verse..

verse 25: Jesus says he does the works of his Father
verse 27-29: Jesus talkin bout symbolic sheep his Father gave him

^^ both wouldnt make sense to those listening if they (God n Jesus) were one.

instead Jesus said 'My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father' (based from 29). Similar to you saying to ya pop's enemy "if you attack my dad you attack me". Jesus and his Father are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, values, standards..

therefore, that scripture only shows the strong bond of unity between them.


aight @Fidel Z

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Originally Posted by Row

the bible is not always literal.

look at the context around that verse..

verse 25: Jesus says he does the works of his Father
verse 27-29: Jesus talkin bout symbolic sheep his Father gave him

^^ both wouldnt make sense to those listening if they (God n Jesus) were one.

instead Jesus said 'My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father' (based from 29). Similar to you saying to ya pop's enemy "if you attack my dad you attack me". Jesus and his Father are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, values, standards..

therefore, that scripture only shows the strong bond of unity between them.


aight @Fidel Z

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That's What's up!

Originally Posted by Row

the bible is not always literal.

look at the context around that verse..

verse 25: Jesus says he does the works of his Father
verse 27-29: Jesus talkin bout symbolic sheep his Father gave him

^^ both wouldnt make sense to those listening if they (God n Jesus) were one.

instead Jesus said 'My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father' (based from 29). Similar to you saying to ya pop's enemy "if you attack my dad you attack me". Jesus and his Father are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, values, standards..

therefore, that scripture only shows the strong bond of unity between them.


aight @Fidel Z

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That's What's up!