Why this Boston Bombing doesn't sit right

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

Yeah I agree the drills are really odd and have popped up far too conveniently within the vicinity and time frame of these events. You'd have to be pretty naive to not atleast raise an eyebrow at these findings.

They could be faked documents, I don't know, you can never be too sure, but if these drills taking place around these incidents are 100% fact. then it is more than a little fishy.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

Yeah I agree the drills are really odd and have popped up far too conveniently within the vicinity and time frame of these events. You'd have to be pretty naive to not atleast raise an eyebrow at these findings.

They could be faked documents, I don't know, you can never be too sure, but if these drills taking place around these incidents are 100% fact. then it is more than a little fishy.

[Godbody]

@Just C then start saying I'm right because the amount of security seen at this marathon was unprecedented vs other marathons as said by the dude in the video I posted in the first post of this thread.

[Godbody]

@Just C then start saying I'm right because the amount of security seen at this marathon was unprecedented vs other marathons as said by the dude in the video I posted in the first post of this thread.

[J u s T C]

April 18, 2011

The Boston Marathon: In preparedness, the old is new again
Filed under: General Homeland Security,Preparedness and Response — by Arnold Bogis on April 18, 2011


Find below a “Power & Policy” blog post of mine outlining similarities between what PPD-8 calls for and the actions of Boston officials in preparing for and running the Boston Marathon as a “planned disaster.” Being Patriot’s Day, on which the Marathon is always run, I could not resist the comparison.

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This month the Obama Administration released Presidential Policy Directive (PPD) 8 on National Preparedness. While arguments can be made both in favor and against this seeming reboot of the national effort to increase preparedness for natural disasters and terrorist attacks, what particularly puzzles me is the lack of attention, given existing homeland security models that include vigorous cooperation among jurisdictions and participation of non-traditional homeland security actors. These efforts can be models for the rest of the nation and often have been ongoing long before PPD-8 called for “facilitating an integrated, all-of-Nation, capabilities-based approach to preparedness.”

For example today, in addition to being Tax Day, is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts and the day on which the Boston Marathon is run. Why is this relevant to homeland security? As I wrote in an op-ed in the Boston Globe a few years ago:

Today thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster. Yet, they are not just safe from harm (except for the variety brought on by running 26.2 miles), they also are participants in an event that will make the citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.

What is important to note is the long standing, ongoing work towards what PPD-8 identifies as required in that the “national preparedness system shall be designed to help guide the domestic efforts of all levels of government, the private and nonprofit sectors, and the public to build and sustain the capabilities outlined in the national preparedness goal. The national preparedness system shall include guidance for planning, organization, equipment, training, and exercises to build and maintain domestic capabilities.”

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

Treating these large, annual events as opportunities to test the disaster response system accomplishes exactly that. Personnel from public safety and health departments meet regularly during the year to plan these events. New officials will quickly meet their counterparts in other agencies. As described in a recent Globe story about how close the 2007 race came to being cancelled due to weather, a unified command is established where all the relevant organizations can monitor the event and react together if something goes wrong.

This is not something that concerns only the City of Boston or events that can be dealt with by local authorities:

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It seems these drills have been going on for some years now in Boston on Patriots day. Also since this has been the case Having bomb dogs in the area is not as un common as you think it is.

[J u s T C]

April 18, 2011

The Boston Marathon: In preparedness, the old is new again
Filed under: General Homeland Security,Preparedness and Response — by Arnold Bogis on April 18, 2011


Find below a “Power & Policy” blog post of mine outlining similarities between what PPD-8 calls for and the actions of Boston officials in preparing for and running the Boston Marathon as a “planned disaster.” Being Patriot’s Day, on which the Marathon is always run, I could not resist the comparison.

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This month the Obama Administration released Presidential Policy Directive (PPD) 8 on National Preparedness. While arguments can be made both in favor and against this seeming reboot of the national effort to increase preparedness for natural disasters and terrorist attacks, what particularly puzzles me is the lack of attention, given existing homeland security models that include vigorous cooperation among jurisdictions and participation of non-traditional homeland security actors. These efforts can be models for the rest of the nation and often have been ongoing long before PPD-8 called for “facilitating an integrated, all-of-Nation, capabilities-based approach to preparedness.”

For example today, in addition to being Tax Day, is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts and the day on which the Boston Marathon is run. Why is this relevant to homeland security? As I wrote in an op-ed in the Boston Globe a few years ago:

Today thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster. Yet, they are not just safe from harm (except for the variety brought on by running 26.2 miles), they also are participants in an event that will make the citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.

What is important to note is the long standing, ongoing work towards what PPD-8 identifies as required in that the “national preparedness system shall be designed to help guide the domestic efforts of all levels of government, the private and nonprofit sectors, and the public to build and sustain the capabilities outlined in the national preparedness goal. The national preparedness system shall include guidance for planning, organization, equipment, training, and exercises to build and maintain domestic capabilities.”

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

Treating these large, annual events as opportunities to test the disaster response system accomplishes exactly that. Personnel from public safety and health departments meet regularly during the year to plan these events. New officials will quickly meet their counterparts in other agencies. As described in a recent Globe story about how close the 2007 race came to being cancelled due to weather, a unified command is established where all the relevant organizations can monitor the event and react together if something goes wrong.

This is not something that concerns only the City of Boston or events that can be dealt with by local authorities:

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It seems these drills have been going on for some years now in Boston on Patriots day. Also since this has been the case Having bomb dogs in the area is not as un common as you think it is.

[Godbody]

@Jason That's a good point, I'm aware of that & I can't argue with that. Of course there's drills that occur for large events that gain publicity and they don't get any attention until the day something actually happens. I understand that.

But the Sandy Hook thing? the London train bombing? On the same day or a little prior to the actual event?

If you're planning to do something eventually & don't want people on your trail or conspiracy theorists saying "why were there drills that day?!", wouldn't you make it a yearly thing to carry out the same drills until the day you're planning to strike?

It'd be even more fishy if this year was the first year they had drills like these, catch my drift?

[Godbody]

@Jason That's a good point, I'm aware of that & I can't argue with that. Of course there's drills that occur for large events that gain publicity and they don't get any attention until the day something actually happens. I understand that.

But the Sandy Hook thing? the London train bombing? On the same day or a little prior to the actual event?

If you're planning to do something eventually & don't want people on your trail or conspiracy theorists saying "why were there drills that day?!", wouldn't you make it a yearly thing to carry out the same drills until the day you're planning to strike?

It'd be even more fishy if this year was the first year they had drills like these, catch my drift?

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Jason

youre really reachin man .. lol .. youre trying to say that they have drills frequently just so when the government sets off a bomb they have a reason for a bomb squad being in the area ... ??????

I think he's speaking hypothetically. I mean if you were going to plan an attack. holding yearly drills looks a lot less suspect than everytime something bad happens you just happen to be holding a 1 off drill. lmao but saying that why would you even hold a 1 off drill on the same day you're going to attack your own people. you'd just do it without the added and much un needed attention of everyone knowing u were holding a drill

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Jason

youre really reachin man .. lol .. youre trying to say that they have drills frequently just so when the government sets off a bomb they have a reason for a bomb squad being in the area ... ??????

I think he's speaking hypothetically. I mean if you were going to plan an attack. holding yearly drills looks a lot less suspect than everytime something bad happens you just happen to be holding a 1 off drill. lmao but saying that why would you even hold a 1 off drill on the same day you're going to attack your own people. you'd just do it without the added and much un needed attention of everyone knowing u were holding a drill

[IV]

Phil Banks can you confirm your whereabouts at the time of the Boston marathon?

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I told you before bro the London thing was the day after it was announced we had won the Olympics so its expected we'd had extra security doing practice runs etc. I see the rest of yours points though.

They probably do have sniffer dogs at all events, it's just like fire exits, they're always there even if there's not a fire. Thats probably a really really whack example.

There weren't any bombs at the Olympics (that we know of) but there were still sniffer dogs and a hell of a lot of security. If you guys didn't piss every other country off in the world you wouldn't have a reason to be so paranoid

[IV]

Phil Banks can you confirm your whereabouts at the time of the Boston marathon?

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I told you before bro the London thing was the day after it was announced we had won the Olympics so its expected we'd had extra security doing practice runs etc. I see the rest of yours points though.

They probably do have sniffer dogs at all events, it's just like fire exits, they're always there even if there's not a fire. Thats probably a really really whack example.

There weren't any bombs at the Olympics (that we know of) but there were still sniffer dogs and a hell of a lot of security. If you guys didn't piss every other country off in the world you wouldn't have a reason to be so paranoid

[Godbody]

@Just C was on the money...Everything is hypothetically speaking. Why would any government hold 1 drill, on one occassion, where something tragic happens? That's hella sketchy versus holding the same drill everytime this event happens and when a tragedy finally does happen and everyones pointing fingers, as a government, it's much easier to respond with "We hold these drills every year"

You gotta look at the psychology involved. The people in power are egotistical maniacs that thrive on putting things in your face and they rejoice when ignorant people defend their actions because their lack of understanding

The pyramid on the back of the dollar bill and "Novus Ordo Seclorum"(New World Order) written under the pyramid means nothing to someone that doesn't know this country was founded on fraternities and secret societies. & They love it when people shoot down conspiracy theories because they put this right in your face.. & the satisfaction they get off the people they control sticking up for them and brushing off any conspiracy theory when clearly there are dots to be connected....Man I can only imagine the satisfaction these egotistical sick fucks would get from it

[Godbody]

@Just C was on the money...Everything is hypothetically speaking. Why would any government hold 1 drill, on one occassion, where something tragic happens? That's hella sketchy versus holding the same drill everytime this event happens and when a tragedy finally does happen and everyones pointing fingers, as a government, it's much easier to respond with "We hold these drills every year"

You gotta look at the psychology involved. The people in power are egotistical maniacs that thrive on putting things in your face and they rejoice when ignorant people defend their actions because their lack of understanding

The pyramid on the back of the dollar bill and "Novus Ordo Seclorum"(New World Order) written under the pyramid means nothing to someone that doesn't know this country was founded on fraternities and secret societies. & They love it when people shoot down conspiracy theories because they put this right in your face.. & the satisfaction they get off the people they control sticking up for them and brushing off any conspiracy theory when clearly there are dots to be connected....Man I can only imagine the satisfaction these egotistical sick fucks would get from it

[Godbody]

So it's not a fact that a secret society put the pyramid on the dollar bill and its not a fact that it says Novus Ordo Seclorum on the back of the dollar bill?

Yet people say those are conspiracy theories and its right in your face...Yet its a fact secret societies and fraternities founded the country and have been running shit since 1776, give or take some years.

[Godbody]

So it's not a fact that a secret society put the pyramid on the dollar bill and its not a fact that it says Novus Ordo Seclorum on the back of the dollar bill?

Yet people say those are conspiracy theories and its right in your face...Yet its a fact secret societies and fraternities founded the country and have been running shit since 1776, give or take some years.

[Godbody]

refer to my previous post. That's FACT, not speculation.

You think they sat around one day and were like "Hey, let's put a pyramid on the back of the dollar bill and lets write some random shit in latin because it'd look cute" ?

It'd be pretty ignorant to brush off whats on the back of the most common denominated bill in the U.S. & This is also a fact that the $1 bill is the most common bill, not speculation.

[Godbody]

refer to my previous post. That's FACT, not speculation.

You think they sat around one day and were like "Hey, let's put a pyramid on the back of the dollar bill and lets write some random shit in latin because it'd look cute" ?

It'd be pretty ignorant to brush off whats on the back of the most common denominated bill in the U.S. & This is also a fact that the $1 bill is the most common bill, not speculation.

[Godbody]

I'm talking about why these "fictional characters" would host yearly drills

You seem to disregard anything involving common sense, & just because you lack the mental capacity to think 10 steps ahead doesnt mean politicians do. Thats why you're on LB talking and defending them while they're in power

[Godbody]

I'm talking about why these "fictional characters" would host yearly drills

You seem to disregard anything involving common sense, & just because you lack the mental capacity to think 10 steps ahead doesnt mean politicians do. Thats why you're on LB talking and defending them while they're in power