Why does Nas

[King John]

Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz

when did album sales become a sign of versatility?

i mean i know you like Scarface, right? Solja Boy will prolly sell more albums than him...so leave sales out of it.

If I Ruled the World is much more commercially viable than Oochie Wally, as is One Mic. Both of which did NOT sell out artistically...and Oochie Wally was on a QB compilation album...not a NaS album

Being able to make to make a hit is a pretty big sign of being versatile, that's why Scarface and Soulja Boy aren't on anybody's best ever list, because they can't be commercially successful and still put out lyrical shit. Same with Nas sure he can put out some bullshit "lyrical," track but he can't make a hit to save his life.

[King John]

Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz

when did album sales become a sign of versatility?

i mean i know you like Scarface, right? Solja Boy will prolly sell more albums than him...so leave sales out of it.

If I Ruled the World is much more commercially viable than Oochie Wally, as is One Mic. Both of which did NOT sell out artistically...and Oochie Wally was on a QB compilation album...not a NaS album

Being able to make to make a hit is a pretty big sign of being versatile, that's why Scarface and Soulja Boy aren't on anybody's best ever list, because they can't be commercially successful and still put out lyrical shit. Same with Nas sure he can put out some bullshit "lyrical," track but he can't make a hit to save his life.

[1DollarShort]

Originally Posted by King John

Being able to make to make a hit is a pretty big sign of being versatile, that's why Scarface and Soulja Boy aren't on anybody's best ever list, because they can't be commercially successful and still put out lyrical shit. Same with Nas sure he can put out some bullshit "lyrical," track but he can't make a hit to save his life.

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

[1DollarShort]

Originally Posted by King John

Being able to make to make a hit is a pretty big sign of being versatile, that's why Scarface and Soulja Boy aren't on anybody's best ever list, because they can't be commercially successful and still put out lyrical shit. Same with Nas sure he can put out some bullshit "lyrical," track but he can't make a hit to save his life.

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

[King John]

Originally Posted by -SoupErb-

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

The thing is he ALREADY tried to be a commercially successful rapper and put out radio hits, and he was nowhere near as successful as Jay Z was, every album between Illmatic and Stillmatic was him attempting to find radio success. And for all the talk about him being more lyrical than Jay Z, Jay Z has 3 classic albums(at a shit more near classic albums) Nas only has 1.

[King John]

Originally Posted by -SoupErb-

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

The thing is he ALREADY tried to be a commercially successful rapper and put out radio hits, and he was nowhere near as successful as Jay Z was, every album between Illmatic and Stillmatic was him attempting to find radio success. And for all the talk about him being more lyrical than Jay Z, Jay Z has 3 classic albums(at a shit more near classic albums) Nas only has 1.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by King John

The thing is he ALREADY tried to be a commercially successful rapper and put out radio hits, and he was nowhere near as successful as Jay Z was, every album between Illmatic and Stillmatic was him attempting to find radio success. And for all the talk about him being more lyrical than Jay Z, Jay Z has 3 classic albums(at a shit more near classic albums) Nas only has 1.

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by King John

The thing is he ALREADY tried to be a commercially successful rapper and put out radio hits, and he was nowhere near as successful as Jay Z was, every album between Illmatic and Stillmatic was him attempting to find radio success. And for all the talk about him being more lyrical than Jay Z, Jay Z has 3 classic albums(at a shit more near classic albums) Nas only has 1.

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

[King John]

Originally Posted by pULSe

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

Talent, he could go get a catchy beat, but he doesn't have the skill to make a #1 hit like Hov does.

[King John]

Originally Posted by pULSe

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

Talent, he could go get a catchy beat, but he doesn't have the skill to make a #1 hit like Hov does.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by King John

Talent, he could go get a catchy beat, but he doesn't have the skill to make a #1 hit like Hov does.

This was enough to make me never return to this thread.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by King John

Talent, he could go get a catchy beat, but he doesn't have the skill to make a #1 hit like Hov does.

This was enough to make me never return to this thread.

[King John]

Originally Posted by pULSe

This was enough to make me never return to this thread.

lol, he doesn't, people downplay the skill it takes to make a hit single way to much, just because a rapper is "lyrical," doesn't mean he can make a hit, just the way a person who makes hits couldn't make a super lyrical track, Jay Z can do both, that's why he's the best ever.

[King John]

Originally Posted by pULSe

This was enough to make me never return to this thread.

lol, he doesn't, people downplay the skill it takes to make a hit single way to much, just because a rapper is "lyrical," doesn't mean he can make a hit, just the way a person who makes hits couldn't make a super lyrical track, Jay Z can do both, that's why he's the best ever.