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[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by RickyLahey

I'm not sugar coating anything. I'm telling you like it is. I ASKED you and said "JW" because I legitimately didn't know. But like I said, I learned in college that an unconscious bias DOES exist. People can't help it and it's not their fault. It's proven by science lol. If you started over on a new account with no name or rep, you WOULD lose more often. It has NOTHING to do with your skill bro. It's just natural human flaws that you can't control. Admins and mods shouldn't battle. Conflict of interest. To further prove my point, I must ask. Do you remember "_Shaz"? She won so many battles for no reason lol. Oh well there was one reason... she was a mod. Point blank. The proof is in the pudding, I have seen it many times. I know it seems like I'm attacking you or sumn but I'm not. I'm simply saying if your win % is (let's say) 95% now for a month, if you then could get into a time machine and redo it all over on a noob account, your % might be somewhere in the 80-88% range.

I am not wrong. Kick rocks if you think I am.

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by RickyLahey

I'm not sugar coating anything. I'm telling you like it is. I ASKED you and said "JW" because I legitimately didn't know. But like I said, I learned in college that an unconscious bias DOES exist. People can't help it and it's not their fault. It's proven by science lol. If you started over on a new account with no name or rep, you WOULD lose more often. It has NOTHING to do with your skill bro. It's just natural human flaws that you can't control. Admins and mods shouldn't battle. Conflict of interest. To further prove my point, I must ask. Do you remember "_Shaz"? She won so many battles for no reason lol. Oh well there was one reason... she was a mod. Point blank. The proof is in the pudding, I have seen it many times. I know it seems like I'm attacking you or sumn but I'm not. I'm simply saying if your win % is (let's say) 95% now for a month, if you then could get into a time machine and redo it all over on a noob account, your % might be somewhere in the 80-88% range.

I am not wrong. Kick rocks if you think I am.

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

[mckiller187]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

agree

[mckiller187]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

agree

[RickyLahey]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

That's a fair point bro. But, re-read carefully what I said. I said their win percentages are slightly higher due to their "fame", you understand? There are some people who would never vote against a mod/champion no matter what. They fear people will think they're uneducated if they disagree with a mod/champ. Lockhart & Esso are both hella talented and creative and I'm not saying anything against them personally. My entire point I am trying to get across, it's a conflict of interest. I've seen dudes beat a champ/mods fair and still "lose", just recently in fact. It is what it is tho I suppose.

[RickyLahey]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

Unconscious bias is a thing for sure. However, that bias has to be established in the first place, and I don't think you can claim Esso didn't earn his by battling a long time before he was a mod. Also, plenty of LB's top-flight battlers have made hidden multi accounts and been just as successful on them (i.e. UA winning a GC and one-bar title as YOU WISH; Lockhart going undefeated and winning a tag tourney as Perplexity). Interestingly enough, when they do, people often whinge and complain about how it affects their ability to use personals on them. It would seem that top-tier battles just can't win for winning.

That's a fair point bro. But, re-read carefully what I said. I said their win percentages are slightly higher due to their "fame", you understand? There are some people who would never vote against a mod/champion no matter what. They fear people will think they're uneducated if they disagree with a mod/champ. Lockhart & Esso are both hella talented and creative and I'm not saying anything against them personally. My entire point I am trying to get across, it's a conflict of interest. I've seen dudes beat a champ/mods fair and still "lose", just recently in fact. It is what it is tho I suppose.