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Can someone that's been here for a decently long time tell me what my bars lack the most of? And how to make it better? (I.e if my scheming is bad, how to improve it).
Wanna become the best I can, and figuring out what I need to do better is a step in the right direction imo.
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Self-Improvement
Can someone that's been here for a decently long time tell me what my bars lack the most of? And how to make it better? (I.e if my scheming is bad, how to improve it).
Wanna become the best I can, and figuring out what I need to do better is a step in the right direction imo.
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First thing's first, change the name back to Wolf.
Secondly, more aggression in your bars. Everyone has their own style but at the end of the day, the idea is to diss the person. Bitch made hoe, what the fuck yo broke ass gonna do bout it. Fuck boii ain't no gangster. Use that Bigg K approach.
And sometimes less is more, so cut out unnecessary words to shorten the bar without taking away impact.
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First thing's first, change the name back to Wolf.
Secondly, more aggression in your bars. Everyone has their own style but at the end of the day, the idea is to diss the person. Bitch made hoe, what the fuck yo broke ass gonna do bout it. Fuck boii ain't no gangster. Use that Bigg K approach.
And sometimes less is more, so cut out unnecessary words to shorten the bar without taking away impact.
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MV is definitely right there; I think your problem is that you're trying to fit too much into a single bar sometimes. It's ok to use a simpler concept and execute it cleanly, and the reason that is better than a complex concept executed clunkily is that people understand it the first time they read it. Text battling isn't live battling, but the approach should be the same – most of your content should be clear to someone on their first read, without having to check an expo, so that they immediately get it and laugh/gasp/cringe/whatever the intended reaction is.
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MV is definitely right there; I think your problem is that you're trying to fit too much into a single bar sometimes. It's ok to use a simpler concept and execute it cleanly, and the reason that is better than a complex concept executed clunkily is that people understand it the first time they read it. Text battling isn't live battling, but the approach should be the same – most of your content should be clear to someone on their first read, without having to check an expo, so that they immediately get it and laugh/gasp/cringe/whatever the intended reaction is.
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You can’t overthink shit. The more streamlined and cleanly executed your concepts and punches, the better. It doesn’t mean dumb it down to special ed curriculum but shit like this....
Still wanna act tough? My gun bars known for FABULOUSLY WRECKING PRODUCERS NECKS. Still tryna step up? Then I’ll let the “tech run till the lines spill” like MANUALLY CHECKING COMPUTER SPECS
Long ass clunky multi to get to nerdy computer shit only a few people gonna get is a waste of time. Stay generally relatable, clean and concise and you will see results.
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You can’t overthink shit. The more streamlined and cleanly executed your concepts and punches, the better. It doesn’t mean dumb it down to special ed curriculum but shit like this....
Still wanna act tough? My gun bars known for FABULOUSLY WRECKING PRODUCERS NECKS. Still tryna step up? Then I’ll let the “tech run till the lines spill” like MANUALLY CHECKING COMPUTER SPECS
Long ass clunky multi to get to nerdy computer shit only a few people gonna get is a waste of time. Stay generally relatable, clean and concise and you will see results.
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IMO he should keep his name as Realnezz. Has more of an OG vibe to it.
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Can someone that's been here for a decently long time tell me what my bars lack the most of? And how to make it better? (I.e if my scheming is bad, how to improve it).
Wanna become the best I can, and figuring out what I need to do better is a step in the right direction imo.
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Using your battle against Baba as example, I honestly really enjoyed your bars as they were all, for the most part, very straight to the point.... That bar with the ten-syllable multi seemed that it could've been really good as well, that is, if I could have understood it better. Felt that it was slightly forced. I really think you have a lot of the most important shit down, especially writing punches. If anything, perhaps working on your setups so they're even better than they are now. Also, maybe working on your scheming would be good too. I feel like they fluctuate sort of oddly; unbeknownst whether or not this was on purpose because IMO the rhyme schemes seem to be of random execution.
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IMO he should keep his name as Realnezz. Has more of an OG vibe to it.
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Can someone that's been here for a decently long time tell me what my bars lack the most of? And how to make it better? (I.e if my scheming is bad, how to improve it).
Wanna become the best I can, and figuring out what I need to do better is a step in the right direction imo.
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Using your battle against Baba as example, I honestly really enjoyed your bars as they were all, for the most part, very straight to the point.... That bar with the ten-syllable multi seemed that it could've been really good as well, that is, if I could have understood it better. Felt that it was slightly forced. I really think you have a lot of the most important shit down, especially writing punches. If anything, perhaps working on your setups so they're even better than they are now. Also, maybe working on your scheming would be good too. I feel like they fluctuate sort of oddly; unbeknownst whether or not this was on purpose because IMO the rhyme schemes seem to be of random execution.
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IMO he should keep his name as Realnezz. Has more of an OG vibe to it.
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Some names just stick & I honestly think Wolf is one of them. It's like when I changed my name to BURDENS or when @ Rieper went w the name change, everybody still knew me as MV & Rieper as Lock. It's just what it is.
Just my opinion.
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Speaking on name changes...
@An DAigda, where's FUEL at! (Don't even know if I can tag that name lol)
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IMO he should keep his name as Realnezz. Has more of an OG vibe to it.
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Some names just stick & I honestly think Wolf is one of them. It's like when I changed my name to BURDENS or when @ Rieper went w the name change, everybody still knew me as MV & Rieper as Lock. It's just what it is.
Just my opinion.
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Speaking on name changes...
@An DAigda, where's FUEL at! (Don't even know if I can tag that name lol)
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You can’t overthink shit. The more streamlined and cleanly executed your concepts and punches, the better. It doesn’t mean dumb it down to special ed curriculum but shit like this....
Still wanna act tough? My gun bars known for FABULOUSLY WRECKING PRODUCERS NECKS. Still tryna step up? Then I’ll let the “tech run till the lines spill” like MANUALLY CHECKING COMPUTER SPECS
Long ass clunky multi to get to nerdy computer shit only a few people gonna get is a waste of time. Stay generally relatable, clean and concise and you will see results.
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That reads like a Shodan bar from 2014, and ironically enough he had a lot of the same issues starting out that I’m pretty sure he himself would admit to.
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You can’t overthink shit. The more streamlined and cleanly executed your concepts and punches, the better. It doesn’t mean dumb it down to special ed curriculum but shit like this....
Still wanna act tough? My gun bars known for FABULOUSLY WRECKING PRODUCERS NECKS. Still tryna step up? Then I’ll let the “tech run till the lines spill” like MANUALLY CHECKING COMPUTER SPECS
Long ass clunky multi to get to nerdy computer shit only a few people gonna get is a waste of time. Stay generally relatable, clean and concise and you will see results.
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That reads like a Shodan bar from 2014, and ironically enough he had a lot of the same issues starting out that I’m pretty sure he himself would admit to.
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Yeah change your name fam ... Not to wolf though, too Generic ... Pick a Name to Live Up to
You aint bad, youre definately headed down the right path . Try thinking of a good concept , back in the day i'd rely on Wordplays, Nameplays, Puns & Turn of Phrases. Theres other shit that can be witty too , Anyything can be good if its done right. Try thinking of something that can be used atleast 2 ways, (Words, or a short phrase) & Try to catch niggas off-guard, but be straight forward, & Keep it easy to understand. Clean your bars up. Try to have them roll off the tongue more ... Your Multies dont need to be Long as fuck either, & they dont need fancy words, Start small, perfect that, and make them bigger later if you want to go that way. Try turning your concept into a bar, & if it dont sound right, Start from scratch and try to say it a different way. Do that until your bar is clean. When your starting out, its okay to take your time with a verse Aye. No rush cuz its about improving ... Took me a while before i was decent . You havent peaked in potential , so dont get discouraged.
Aye wouldnt hurt to check out some of the GOAT's either.... Reefer, Daddio , Real Talk, Illimit , RULE even. See how they do it
Its a skill
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Aye dont compromise your flow for a complex concept ... Flow is underrated, it'll impact your whole delivery. Make the concept work with your flow. Go easy on the awkward words too
Mr. Miyagi in this bitch, im out
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Yeah change your name fam ... Not to wolf though, too Generic ... Pick a Name to Live Up to
You aint bad, youre definately headed down the right path . Try thinking of a good concept , back in the day i'd rely on Wordplays, Nameplays, Puns & Turn of Phrases. Theres other shit that can be witty too , Anyything can be good if its done right. Try thinking of something that can be used atleast 2 ways, (Words, or a short phrase) & Try to catch niggas off-guard, but be straight forward, & Keep it easy to understand. Clean your bars up. Try to have them roll off the tongue more ... Your Multies dont need to be Long as fuck either, & they dont need fancy words, Start small, perfect that, and make them bigger later if you want to go that way. Try turning your concept into a bar, & if it dont sound right, Start from scratch and try to say it a different way. Do that until your bar is clean. When your starting out, its okay to take your time with a verse Aye. No rush cuz its about improving ... Took me a while before i was decent . You havent peaked in potential , so dont get discouraged.
Aye wouldnt hurt to check out some of the GOAT's either.... Reefer, Daddio , Real Talk, Illimit , RULE even. See how they do it
Its a skill
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Aye dont compromise your flow for a complex concept ... Flow is underrated, it'll impact your whole delivery. Make the concept work with your flow. Go easy on the awkward words too
Mr. Miyagi in this bitch, im out
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Appreciate the suggestions from all of you. Seriously means a lot to me that y'all would take the time to write the shit you did.
I'm finna drop sumn' soon to try and test out a new style.
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Appreciate the suggestions from all of you. Seriously means a lot to me that y'all would take the time to write the shit you did.
I'm finna drop sumn' soon to try and test out a new style.
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Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars
DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.
To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.
Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.
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Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars
DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.
To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.
Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.
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