Staff In Question Pt 1 - One RULE for some...

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

RULE's SToBBaRT & Wargrave accounts & Meta4's multis shouldn't have HoF attached to them, tbh. That's just my honest opinion. Those accounts have nothing to warrant HoF consideration (at least you can say Revan won titles and has a long ass undefeated streak & YOU WISH has titles to it, as well).

But you are right about this, imo. It should be based off the accomplishments of the account if we're really gonna do it like this. I remember Manhattan was campaigning to have his GC from ShotsFired added to his Manhattan account citing this exact same reason, but he was turned down.

Also, idk how staff is in question as a whole when the majority of staff cannot do anything regarding title changes.

I think it's less about having the power to alter titles, and more about bringing this to the attention of people other than regular users. He can tell us all day about what's fair and what's not, but nothing will happen because we don't have the amount of influence y'all have. An admin is 10x more probable to listen to a mod than a member.

Also, as your job description stands, EtH (as a member) is supposed to voice his concerns about the site if he has any at any point in time to a mod, regardless of the issue in question.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

RULE's SToBBaRT & Wargrave accounts & Meta4's multis shouldn't have HoF attached to them, tbh. That's just my honest opinion. Those accounts have nothing to warrant HoF consideration (at least you can say Revan won titles and has a long ass undefeated streak & YOU WISH has titles to it, as well).

But you are right about this, imo. It should be based off the accomplishments of the account if we're really gonna do it like this. I remember Manhattan was campaigning to have his GC from ShotsFired added to his Manhattan account citing this exact same reason, but he was turned down.

Also, idk how staff is in question as a whole when the majority of staff cannot do anything regarding title changes.

I think it's less about having the power to alter titles, and more about bringing this to the attention of people other than regular users. He can tell us all day about what's fair and what's not, but nothing will happen because we don't have the amount of influence y'all have. An admin is 10x more probable to listen to a mod than a member.

Also, as your job description stands, EtH (as a member) is supposed to voice his concerns about the site if he has any at any point in time to a mod, regardless of the issue in question.

Originally Posted by Sean Griffey

I think it's less about having the power to alter titles, and more about bringing this to the attention of people other than regular users. He can tell us all day about what's fair and what's not, but nothing will happen because we don't have the amount of influence y'all have. An admin is 10x more probable to listen to a mod than a member.

Also, as your job description stands, EtH (as a member) is supposed to voice his concerns about the site if he has any at any point in time to a mod, regardless of the issue in question.

Fair point.

EtH brings up a good point, though. It should be looked at the same across all HoF accounts that have multis. If that multi has like a handful of battles with no accomplishments and they're all well below the level of the main account, then they shouldn't have a Hall of Famer title. They should obviously be acknowledged in the HoF thread, but not given a title. You don't see @KATTWILLIAMS getting a HoF title simply for being stricc's multi.

Originally Posted by Sean Griffey

I think it's less about having the power to alter titles, and more about bringing this to the attention of people other than regular users. He can tell us all day about what's fair and what's not, but nothing will happen because we don't have the amount of influence y'all have. An admin is 10x more probable to listen to a mod than a member.

Also, as your job description stands, EtH (as a member) is supposed to voice his concerns about the site if he has any at any point in time to a mod, regardless of the issue in question.

Fair point.

EtH brings up a good point, though. It should be looked at the same across all HoF accounts that have multis. If that multi has like a handful of battles with no accomplishments and they're all well below the level of the main account, then they shouldn't have a Hall of Famer title. They should obviously be acknowledged in the HoF thread, but not given a title. You don't see @KATTWILLIAMS getting a HoF title simply for being stricc's multi.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Fair point.

EtH brings up a good point, though. It should be looked at the same across all HoF accounts that have multis. If that multi has like a handful of battles with no accomplishments and they're all well below the level of the main account, then they shouldn't have a Hall of Famer title. They should obviously be acknowledged in the HoF thread, but not given a title. You don't see @KATTWILLIAMS getting a HoF title simply for being stricc's multi.

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

Edit: How about instead of changing things that have been in place for an entire decade, we just uphold then? Crazy thought, I know.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Fair point.

EtH brings up a good point, though. It should be looked at the same across all HoF accounts that have multis. If that multi has like a handful of battles with no accomplishments and they're all well below the level of the main account, then they shouldn't have a Hall of Famer title. They should obviously be acknowledged in the HoF thread, but not given a title. You don't see @KATTWILLIAMS getting a HoF title simply for being stricc's multi.

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

Edit: How about instead of changing things that have been in place for an entire decade, we just uphold then? Crazy thought, I know.

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

I just made a point and it hasn't even been discussed anywhere yet by staff.

If you really believe a Wargrave account with all of 10 battles to it deserves to have a HoF title to it, then idk what to tell you.

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

I just made a point and it hasn't even been discussed anywhere yet by staff.

If you really believe a Wargrave account with all of 10 battles to it deserves to have a HoF title to it, then idk what to tell you.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

I just made a point and it hasn't even been discussed anywhere yet by staff.

If you really believe a Wargrave account with all of 10 battles to it deserves to have a HoF title to it, then idk what to tell you.

If you really believe that RULE becomes an entirely different human being when he logs into a new account, then idk what to tell you.

Campaigning to have it removed is like claiming Cassius Clay shouldn't be in the HOF, only Muhammad Ali.

Also your Manhattan comparison is false as GC titles have never been exchanged and have always been stuck to one account. As you can see, HOF has always been different.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

I just made a point and it hasn't even been discussed anywhere yet by staff.

If you really believe a Wargrave account with all of 10 battles to it deserves to have a HoF title to it, then idk what to tell you.

If you really believe that RULE becomes an entirely different human being when he logs into a new account, then idk what to tell you.

Campaigning to have it removed is like claiming Cassius Clay shouldn't be in the HOF, only Muhammad Ali.

Also your Manhattan comparison is false as GC titles have never been exchanged and have always been stuck to one account. As you can see, HOF has always been different.

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

If you really believe that RULE becomes an entirely different human being when he logs into a new account, then idk what to tell you.

Campaigning to have it removed is like claiming Cassius Clay shouldn't be in the HOF, only Muhammad Ali.

Also your Manhattan comparison is false as GC titles have never been exchanged and have always been stuck to one account. As you can see, HOF has always been different.

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

If you really believe that RULE becomes an entirely different human being when he logs into a new account, then idk what to tell you.

Campaigning to have it removed is like claiming Cassius Clay shouldn't be in the HOF, only Muhammad Ali.

Also your Manhattan comparison is false as GC titles have never been exchanged and have always been stuck to one account. As you can see, HOF has always been different.

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

Back.....the fuck......UPPPPP

You're Danny Tanner???

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

Back.....the fuck......UPPPPP

You're Danny Tanner???

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

So you're telling me that the entire HOF title has been in absolute ruins for years because both Revan and RULE have a title at the same time?

Whether you agree with it or not, it's been like that for a decade. You either wish to create a new rule entirely due to this Punk situation and remove their HOF titles....or just uphold the rule (which of course yous wouldn't do, because we wouldn't need a thread then right?).

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

So you're telling me that when I eventually get nominated for the HoF that my @Danny Tanner account gets a nice little HoF title added to it, too, all because it's the same person?

That's the issue I have with this: Danny has jack shit on that account, but it has the same person writing the bars on it. Why then should it have a HoF title? If anything, that devalues the title itself by having it on multi accounts with nothing in terms of accomplishment.

So you're telling me that the entire HOF title has been in absolute ruins for years because both Revan and RULE have a title at the same time?

Whether you agree with it or not, it's been like that for a decade. You either wish to create a new rule entirely due to this Punk situation and remove their HOF titles....or just uphold the rule (which of course yous wouldn't do, because we wouldn't need a thread then right?).

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

Wellllll I have to interject EtH. You shedding light on this issue might ensure the actual true multi-account rule gets upheld and those accounts will be changed or altered accordingly. I don't think shedding light on the issue will make them further ignore the rule for yet another account.

Even though Punk is my boy...I think getting called out will encourage them to fix the wrongdoings, not further them by adding Punk. Maybe they will add Punk back to the HOF, but this thread isn't a petition to give Punk his title back. It more-so calls out the unfair treatment and the need to fix the accounts that have been wrongly gifted titles if they're not going to grant Punk his spot.

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

6 HOF titles about to get stripped away from well known legend accounts just to avoid giving Punk his Hall of Fame back.

This regime is wild.

Wellllll I have to interject EtH. You shedding light on this issue might ensure the actual true multi-account rule gets upheld and those accounts will be changed or altered accordingly. I don't think shedding light on the issue will make them further ignore the rule for yet another account.

Even though Punk is my boy...I think getting called out will encourage them to fix the wrongdoings, not further them by adding Punk. Maybe they will add Punk back to the HOF, but this thread isn't a petition to give Punk his title back. It more-so calls out the unfair treatment and the need to fix the accounts that have been wrongly gifted titles if they're not going to grant Punk his spot.