Titles

"This will affect me personally in this way

"No it won't. I know you better than you know you"

"This will affect me personally in this way

"No it won't. I know you better than you know you"

[ILLoKWENT]

What you could do @NOBLE is try to make trophy's that distinctly say ex. (Title champion )+year that they won so that way it can be prominently displayed where the awards normally. I think this is what the people with titles are mainly concerned about. That their particular title isn't properly adorned for all to see and know what distinct tourney they won..that way you can have the actual title holder have his directly under his name for the year.

[ILLoKWENT]

What you could do @NOBLE is try to make trophy's that distinctly say ex. (Title champion )+year that they won so that way it can be prominently displayed where the awards normally. I think this is what the people with titles are mainly concerned about. That their particular title isn't properly adorned for all to see and know what distinct tourney they won..that way you can have the actual title holder have his directly under his name for the year.

Reset all time rankings and the way points work off of wins and losses like I've said before. So sniping is discouraged and the rankings are more realistic. Also, make people get a win every one or 2 weeks to keep their streak alive. That will give people a reason to battle. If someone feels like they don't want to battle since they won a GC or whatever then they don't really want to battle in general.


If I no longer have the titles that I earned with the hardwork of my brain / pen game then majority of those battles were really for nothing and I would have 0 motivation to continue battling or do any of those things over again just to have them erased. Collecting titles and racking them up is like rare achievements in a high skill cap video game that very few people can accomplish.. The type of shit you want symbolized under your name wherever you go because you clearly had the skill and put in the time/effort to set yourself apart from the rest when it was for all the marbles. A big reason people didn't make long runs in the LBA/LBT is because the title wasn't permanent. Only reason people have been striving to do that lately is to get the permanent title. That says a lot. If someone's satisfied after winning a title I don't think taking away their title will motivate them again because they already don't love this shit.. If anything it would probably push them away from battling even more

Reset all time rankings and the way points work off of wins and losses like I've said before. So sniping is discouraged and the rankings are more realistic. Also, make people get a win every one or 2 weeks to keep their streak alive. That will give people a reason to battle. If someone feels like they don't want to battle since they won a GC or whatever then they don't really want to battle in general.


If I no longer have the titles that I earned with the hardwork of my brain / pen game then majority of those battles were really for nothing and I would have 0 motivation to continue battling or do any of those things over again just to have them erased. Collecting titles and racking them up is like rare achievements in a high skill cap video game that very few people can accomplish.. The type of shit you want symbolized under your name wherever you go because you clearly had the skill and put in the time/effort to set yourself apart from the rest when it was for all the marbles. A big reason people didn't make long runs in the LBA/LBT is because the title wasn't permanent. Only reason people have been striving to do that lately is to get the permanent title. That says a lot. If someone's satisfied after winning a title I don't think taking away their title will motivate them again because they already don't love this shit.. If anything it would probably push them away from battling even more

[Nerdism]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The titles are good in more ways than one clearly

[Nerdism]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The titles are good in more ways than one clearly

[Esso]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

. At this point you are assuming that those that say they won't be thrilled with defensible titles and won't have the motivation to participate is a fair assumption but still speculative... There has to be a reason why @NOBLE would even concieve this narrative in the first place.. it's because activity is still weak ATM, and he is proactively thinking of something DIFFERENT AND REFRESHING.not the same old tried and true formula that everyone's grown accustomed to and tired of . face facts people keep complaining they want new stuff, yet when someone puts out something that actually would be fun and different, it takes someone out of their comfort zone.. trust me, activity will not diminish, because frankly it ain't that great now, but can only get better. And those that say they'll not battle are full of shit, because at the end of the day, this is still the best structured battle site and their competitive spirit will prevail..you need to have more faith in trying something different.. @NOBLE when your ready to do this yank all my titles, I may have to come out of retirement to show these yungins how it's done again

This new and refreshing idea is an effort to get the old and crusty motivated again....they dont answer callouts or bars in their inboxes, why would they care about losing their titles if they aint logged in for years?

"Hey, we took your title away (enter champs name from 5 years ago here)"
"Ooh, Im mad....lemme pick up a pen for the first time in years to get my usertitle back"

Right....yall dont respond when youre broken down to be perceived as garbage but take away yall titles and youll grab them pens lickety split. Either its lies or yall priorities are all outta whack

theres plenty of ways to try new and refreshing things to generate activity....but if activity sucks, why kill it further by taking something important away from those that are actually faithful and contributing?

[Esso]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

. At this point you are assuming that those that say they won't be thrilled with defensible titles and won't have the motivation to participate is a fair assumption but still speculative... There has to be a reason why @NOBLE would even concieve this narrative in the first place.. it's because activity is still weak ATM, and he is proactively thinking of something DIFFERENT AND REFRESHING.not the same old tried and true formula that everyone's grown accustomed to and tired of . face facts people keep complaining they want new stuff, yet when someone puts out something that actually would be fun and different, it takes someone out of their comfort zone.. trust me, activity will not diminish, because frankly it ain't that great now, but can only get better. And those that say they'll not battle are full of shit, because at the end of the day, this is still the best structured battle site and their competitive spirit will prevail..you need to have more faith in trying something different.. @NOBLE when your ready to do this yank all my titles, I may have to come out of retirement to show these yungins how it's done again

This new and refreshing idea is an effort to get the old and crusty motivated again....they dont answer callouts or bars in their inboxes, why would they care about losing their titles if they aint logged in for years?

"Hey, we took your title away (enter champs name from 5 years ago here)"
"Ooh, Im mad....lemme pick up a pen for the first time in years to get my usertitle back"

Right....yall dont respond when youre broken down to be perceived as garbage but take away yall titles and youll grab them pens lickety split. Either its lies or yall priorities are all outta whack

theres plenty of ways to try new and refreshing things to generate activity....but if activity sucks, why kill it further by taking something important away from those that are actually faithful and contributing?

[ILLoKWENT]

Originally Posted by Esso

This new and refreshing idea is an effort to get the old and crusty motivated again....they dont answer callouts or bars in their inboxes, why would they care about losing their titles if they aint logged in for years?

"Hey, we took your title away (enter champs name from 5 years ago here)"
"Ooh, Im mad....lemme pick up a pen for the first time in years to get my usertitle back"

Right....yall dont respond when youre broken down to be perceived as garbage but take away yall titles and youll grab them pens lickety split. Either its lies or yall priorities are all outta whack

theres plenty of ways to try new and refreshing things to generate activity....but if activity sucks, why kill it further by taking something important away from those that are actually faithful and contributing?

Y'all worried as Bleu pointed out about keeping the titles under your name for all to see the accomplishments you made. I get that. What I'm proposing as a compromise is to have the past titles wit their corresponding year be relocated to where the awards and trophy's are located. That way the currently held title will be directly below the name @NOBLE could this be done

[ILLoKWENT]

Originally Posted by Esso

This new and refreshing idea is an effort to get the old and crusty motivated again....they dont answer callouts or bars in their inboxes, why would they care about losing their titles if they aint logged in for years?

"Hey, we took your title away (enter champs name from 5 years ago here)"
"Ooh, Im mad....lemme pick up a pen for the first time in years to get my usertitle back"

Right....yall dont respond when youre broken down to be perceived as garbage but take away yall titles and youll grab them pens lickety split. Either its lies or yall priorities are all outta whack

theres plenty of ways to try new and refreshing things to generate activity....but if activity sucks, why kill it further by taking something important away from those that are actually faithful and contributing?

Y'all worried as Bleu pointed out about keeping the titles under your name for all to see the accomplishments you made. I get that. What I'm proposing as a compromise is to have the past titles wit their corresponding year be relocated to where the awards and trophy's are located. That way the currently held title will be directly below the name @NOBLE could this be done

[Esso]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

Y'all worried as Bleu pointed out about keeping the titles under your name for all to see the accomplishments you made. I get that. What I'm proposing as a compromise is to have the past titles wit their corresponding year be relocated to where the awards and trophy's are located. That way the currently held title will be directly below the name

Me? Im not worried about a damn thing besides activity....and a tourney with Bleu and Aggo in it is better than one without them in it....cept when the dickheads make cancer jokes and my team doesnt move on but thats neither here nor there.

Im reacting to the active crowd's opinion....You're among the crowd Noble is hoping to appeal to with this change, Illo....flat out, would making the scheme and tag team title interchangeable (because we didnt keep any other orange text titles) make you battle more often and more consistently?

[Esso]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

Y'all worried as Bleu pointed out about keeping the titles under your name for all to see the accomplishments you made. I get that. What I'm proposing as a compromise is to have the past titles wit their corresponding year be relocated to where the awards and trophy's are located. That way the currently held title will be directly below the name

Me? Im not worried about a damn thing besides activity....and a tourney with Bleu and Aggo in it is better than one without them in it....cept when the dickheads make cancer jokes and my team doesnt move on but thats neither here nor there.

Im reacting to the active crowd's opinion....You're among the crowd Noble is hoping to appeal to with this change, Illo....flat out, would making the scheme and tag team title interchangeable (because we didnt keep any other orange text titles) make you battle more often and more consistently?

It's about time we put that cancer joke benign'd us.

It's about time we put that cancer joke benign'd us.

[Dirty Work]

I see where Noble is coming from, but I think taking away people's titles is a bad idea. It won't have the effect you are suggesting, at least not overall. I'm guessing that it will demotivate more individuals than it motivates. The lack of interest in LBT/LBA is something that demonstrates how temporary titles can be less motivating, and beyond that, taking away people's accomplishments is really going to take the wind out of their sails. Now, I do realize that you are not talking about taking the titles away entirely, and that you just want to see them removed from below user names, but that is one of the most important parts of a title. It is immediately visible to anyone who views a profile. Maybe a compromise could be splitting user groups so that the colors could be removed from the names of past title holders, while the title remains under their name on profiles. New groups could be created for current title holders to have the colored names.

As far as the rankings, I think this is an area that could generate wayyyy more activity if it were revamped. I like Bleu's idea of simply resetting it, but that's definitely too drastic because it would be like erasing history. Even though it is pretty much a bullshit record of history lol. What if we were to sort of "retire" the current rankings and preserve them in a thread, and then start fresh with a new era? I don't know what you would use as a headline to describe the new rankings, but something that reflects the fact that they do not include pre 2018 numbers. And don't use the same system. Develop something that better represents the actual ranks instead of just the mass sniper and ducking folks.

[Dirty Work]

I see where Noble is coming from, but I think taking away people's titles is a bad idea. It won't have the effect you are suggesting, at least not overall. I'm guessing that it will demotivate more individuals than it motivates. The lack of interest in LBT/LBA is something that demonstrates how temporary titles can be less motivating, and beyond that, taking away people's accomplishments is really going to take the wind out of their sails. Now, I do realize that you are not talking about taking the titles away entirely, and that you just want to see them removed from below user names, but that is one of the most important parts of a title. It is immediately visible to anyone who views a profile. Maybe a compromise could be splitting user groups so that the colors could be removed from the names of past title holders, while the title remains under their name on profiles. New groups could be created for current title holders to have the colored names.

As far as the rankings, I think this is an area that could generate wayyyy more activity if it were revamped. I like Bleu's idea of simply resetting it, but that's definitely too drastic because it would be like erasing history. Even though it is pretty much a bullshit record of history lol. What if we were to sort of "retire" the current rankings and preserve them in a thread, and then start fresh with a new era? I don't know what you would use as a headline to describe the new rankings, but something that reflects the fact that they do not include pre 2018 numbers. And don't use the same system. Develop something that better represents the actual ranks instead of just the mass sniper and ducking folks.

[NOBLE]

I actually like @Row's idea of expiring flames. I think it would work great coupled with @Bleu's idea of requiring people to win at least once every two weeks in order to keep their flames.
@ILLoKWENT I'm down to make such trophies if people are actually for it. The majority of people in this thread seem to be against making any changes to titles, however. @Bleu can you be more specific as to exactly how points off wins and losses would be reorganized so as to discourage sniping? What you're saying sounds good but it's rather vague.

I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.

[NOBLE]

I actually like @Row's idea of expiring flames. I think it would work great coupled with @Bleu's idea of requiring people to win at least once every two weeks in order to keep their flames.
@ILLoKWENT I'm down to make such trophies if people are actually for it. The majority of people in this thread seem to be against making any changes to titles, however. @Bleu can you be more specific as to exactly how points off wins and losses would be reorganized so as to discourage sniping? What you're saying sounds good but it's rather vague.

I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.