Does social standard determine morality?

Originally Posted by Babylon

Not "always" but historically, what a system agrees & deems is acceptable or non-acceptable seems to begin playing on the nationalistic/tribal sides in a big part of people within that system, and lots of times that sense of "being a part of a team" can allow a population to feel justified in otherwise immoral behavior.

Does justification necessitate morality, though? If not, is it still not immoral behavior, just accepted immoral behavior?

Originally Posted by Babylon

Not "always" but historically, what a system agrees & deems is acceptable or non-acceptable seems to begin playing on the nationalistic/tribal sides in a big part of people within that system, and lots of times that sense of "being a part of a team" can allow a population to feel justified in otherwise immoral behavior.

Does justification necessitate morality, though? If not, is it still not immoral behavior, just accepted immoral behavior?

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Rant

Does justification necessitate morality, though? If not, is it still not immoral behavior, just accepted immoral behavior?

thats exactly what it is, I'm speaking on the human ability to suspend morality in the moment for some misplaced greater sense of the concept. Like a radical christian killing her child before the age of accountability to guarantee him a spot in heaven. The motivation behind carrying out immoral behavior in a flawed act of self perceived justice is a driving factor in how most people end up suspending present moment morality to carry out an otherwise immoral act, and every society uses that logic to some degree from justifying war to allowing some to feel justified in pepper spraying people with trump hats on. I see society having large implications on the actual sense of morality in a population, speaking on a nation-by-nation basis.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Rant

Does justification necessitate morality, though? If not, is it still not immoral behavior, just accepted immoral behavior?

thats exactly what it is, I'm speaking on the human ability to suspend morality in the moment for some misplaced greater sense of the concept. Like a radical christian killing her child before the age of accountability to guarantee him a spot in heaven. The motivation behind carrying out immoral behavior in a flawed act of self perceived justice is a driving factor in how most people end up suspending present moment morality to carry out an otherwise immoral act, and every society uses that logic to some degree from justifying war to allowing some to feel justified in pepper spraying people with trump hats on. I see society having large implications on the actual sense of morality in a population, speaking on a nation-by-nation basis.

Originally Posted by Babylon

thats exactly what it is, I'm speaking on the human ability to suspend morality in the moment for some misplaced greater sense of the concept. Like a radical christian killing her child before the age of accountability to guarantee him a spot in heaven. The motivation behind carrying out immoral behavior in a flawed act of self perceived justice is a driving factor in how most people end up suspending present moment morality to carry out an otherwise immoral act, and every society uses that logic to some degree from justifying war to allowing some to feel justified in pepper spraying people with trump hats on. I see society having large implications on the actual sense of morality in a population, speaking on a nation-by-nation basis.

So, you do not believe that social standard determines morality? But, rather, the sense of morality?

Originally Posted by Babylon

thats exactly what it is, I'm speaking on the human ability to suspend morality in the moment for some misplaced greater sense of the concept. Like a radical christian killing her child before the age of accountability to guarantee him a spot in heaven. The motivation behind carrying out immoral behavior in a flawed act of self perceived justice is a driving factor in how most people end up suspending present moment morality to carry out an otherwise immoral act, and every society uses that logic to some degree from justifying war to allowing some to feel justified in pepper spraying people with trump hats on. I see society having large implications on the actual sense of morality in a population, speaking on a nation-by-nation basis.

So, you do not believe that social standard determines morality? But, rather, the sense of morality?