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I didn't include you in it. Also, clear hyperbole (although barely hyperbole as very close to no one was exact).

It would be understandable that some people couldn't get all 5. It isn't understandable that not even 10 people signed up (when there are like 10 active staff members alone) and barely any even dropped 2 opens.

Who is making the effort? You? That's it. That's all of them. If the others aren't going to bother their arse, then they aren't making the effort.

I'm not here to be a "leader". Fuck that. You think I wanted to lead LB out of this shit myself? And get what? A pat on the back and a ban for coughing? I just wanted LB to continue being the spot that I fucking loved being on a few years ago. The reason I wanted to get this "collective" together is because I was convinced people thought the same. Rican, Esso, ILLoKWENT...these guys made it seem like they wanted LB to get back...but when push came to the shove they did fuck all to contribute.

So the question is...who would I keep LB alive for? I don't even like battling anymore. Dirty Work, Row, Manhattan, Xercwhatever...these guys didn't even sign up. None of them are "active battlers". They might chuck out one every once in a while but they aren't out there like MaCc is. So fuck them. Am I doing it for the old guard who also loved the site? Rican, Xplissit etc? Well check the results here. None of those cunts made it close to 5 so why should I bother about helping them? They clearly didn't want to put in the work themselves. Or how about the future members who don't even exist yet, who have next to no interactivity on the site to inactivity which results in the high number of new members not joining.

Essentially, there is like 3 people here who would actually put in the work and would be worth helping bring the site back with. But fuck that. None of you wanted to put in the work. In the chatroom, essentially everyone (Rant obviously excluded in it all) was all "Yeah great idea, I love LB, let's bring it back" but you stick their name on the front page and the cunts can't be arsed putting in the work.

So fuck it. You can let the site die for all I care now. You guys can look around and see the current state. You guys can't tell me shit cause all of you knew the ideas I talked about were the best chances of bringing it back. But now you's can sit there and blame Pugz or whoever else when it's all your fucking faults this shit is in the nick it is now. So let it die already cause you's clearly couldn't give a fuck.
Great things take time. I understand your frustration, I've been in, and am in a similar state of mind regarding the site. But, that said, you can't let an idea die after six days, just because you aren't getting the results you were dead set on at this juncture. Or because only a handful of people, maybe even less, are the ones actively putting in the work so far. What if that were Steve Jobs' outlook on Apple? What if he gave it all up, simply because he hadn't made it out of the garage yet?(It's a stretch of a comparison, I know. But, the sentiment is similar.) So, again, I'd posit sticking with it. Yourself, myself, the people actually contributing(1 open or 10 opens.) If it continues to happen, then there's a continuance in the likelihood of increase. It's just a slow start, man. It doesn't mean that the finish line is unattainable. Rome wasn't built in a day, and LB can't be rebuilt in six.

That being said, I'll have no issues continuing to drop opens, regardless of who else does so.
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I didn't include you in it. Also, clear hyperbole (although barely hyperbole as very close to no one was exact).

It would be understandable that some people couldn't get all 5. It isn't understandable that not even 10 people signed up (when there are like 10 active staff members alone) and barely any even dropped 2 opens.

Who is making the effort? You? That's it. That's all of them. If the others aren't going to bother their arse, then they aren't making the effort.

I'm not here to be a "leader". Fuck that. You think I wanted to lead LB out of this shit myself? And get what? A pat on the back and a ban for coughing? I just wanted LB to continue being the spot that I fucking loved being on a few years ago. The reason I wanted to get this "collective" together is because I was convinced people thought the same. Rican, Esso, ILLoKWENT...these guys made it seem like they wanted LB to get back...but when push came to the shove they did fuck all to contribute.

So the question is...who would I keep LB alive for? I don't even like battling anymore. Dirty Work, Row, Manhattan, Xercwhatever...these guys didn't even sign up. None of them are "active battlers". They might chuck out one every once in a while but they aren't out there like MaCc is. So fuck them. Am I doing it for the old guard who also loved the site? Rican, Xplissit etc? Well check the results here. None of those cunts made it close to 5 so why should I bother about helping them? They clearly didn't want to put in the work themselves. Or how about the future members who don't even exist yet, who have next to no interactivity on the site to inactivity which results in the high number of new members not joining.

Essentially, there is like 3 people here who would actually put in the work and would be worth helping bring the site back with. But fuck that. None of you wanted to put in the work. In the chatroom, essentially everyone (Rant obviously excluded in it all) was all "Yeah great idea, I love LB, let's bring it back" but you stick their name on the front page and the cunts can't be arsed putting in the work.

So fuck it. You can let the site die for all I care now. You guys can look around and see the current state. You guys can't tell me shit cause all of you knew the ideas I talked about were the best chances of bringing it back. But now you's can sit there and blame Pugz or whoever else when it's all your fucking faults this shit is in the nick it is now. So let it die already cause you's clearly couldn't give a fuck.
Great things take time. I understand your frustration, I've been in, and am in a similar state of mind regarding the site. But, that said, you can't let an idea die after six days, just because you aren't getting the results you were dead set on at this juncture. Or because only a handful of people, maybe even less, are the ones actively putting in the work so far. What if that were Steve Jobs' outlook on Apple? What if he gave it all up, simply because he hadn't made it out of the garage yet?(It's a stretch of a comparison, I know. But, the sentiment is similar.) So, again, I'd posit sticking with it. Yourself, myself, the people actually contributing(1 open or 10 opens.) If it continues to happen, then there's a continuance in the likelihood of increase. It's just a slow start, man. It doesn't mean that the finish line is unattainable. Rome wasn't built in a day, and LB can't be rebuilt in six.

That being said, I'll have no issues continuing to drop opens, regardless of who else does so.
 
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Great things take time. I understand your frustration, I've been in, and am in a similar state of mind regarding the site. But, that said, you can't let an idea die after six days, just because you aren't getting the results you were dead set on at this juncture. Or because only a handful of people, maybe even less, are the ones actively putting in the work so far. What if that were Steve Jobs' outlook on Apple? What if he gave it all up, simply because he hadn't made it out of the garage yet?(It's a stretch of a comparison, I know. But, the sentiment is similar.) So, again, I'd posit sticking with it. Yourself, myself, the people actually contributing(1 open or 10 opens.) If it continues to happen, then there's a continuance in the likelihood of increase. It's just a slow start, man. It doesn't mean that the finish line is unattainable. Rome wasn't built in a day, and LB can't be rebuilt in six.

That being said, I'll have no issues continuing to drop opens, regardless of who else does so.
Things take time, but this wasn't even really the main "thing". This was basically just getting a couple of guys who claim they want to help the site...to battle on the battle site.

I'm not looking to drop 5 every week for 2 years before we recruit a single member. I'm not and don't want to do this shit myself. I was basically trying to revive this shit for me and the other guys that signed up. If it's just me and you who were going to reach the numbers, I no longer give a fuck about the rest of them. I already didn't give a fuck about those uninterested in helping. So that leaves me with me and you. You're sound enough mate, but I'm not putting in all that work for us alone. There has to be more who actually want the site to get there, and this challenge has exposed there aren't.

Steve Jobs was building something. We're reviving something. You need a core group to do that. There is none. Clearly the other guys don't give a fuck. So what do you do then? If TNA is to get back to it's best days, they can't do it with Shark Boy and ODB. They need a roster. Our roster just proved they don't give a fuck.

I'm not looking to sit here day and night putting in work for no money. I wanted to create a base, and let it snowball. 10 guys dropping 5 a week means new members stick around, means new members pick up the slack when the 10 aren't involved anymore and the same amount of battles are done. Then we can move onto recruiting campaigns and stuff. But if no one's even arsed helping me at step 1, I'm not sitting here for the next 10 steps like a fucking saddo doing everything myself while these guys have 2 battles a year in a tournament and brag about their no show title wins. Fuck them and fuck that.

You are saying this shit to me? Go ahead...take the lead. See how long you can make it.
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Great things take time. I understand your frustration, I've been in, and am in a similar state of mind regarding the site. But, that said, you can't let an idea die after six days, just because you aren't getting the results you were dead set on at this juncture. Or because only a handful of people, maybe even less, are the ones actively putting in the work so far. What if that were Steve Jobs' outlook on Apple? What if he gave it all up, simply because he hadn't made it out of the garage yet?(It's a stretch of a comparison, I know. But, the sentiment is similar.) So, again, I'd posit sticking with it. Yourself, myself, the people actually contributing(1 open or 10 opens.) If it continues to happen, then there's a continuance in the likelihood of increase. It's just a slow start, man. It doesn't mean that the finish line is unattainable. Rome wasn't built in a day, and LB can't be rebuilt in six.

That being said, I'll have no issues continuing to drop opens, regardless of who else does so.
Things take time, but this wasn't even really the main "thing". This was basically just getting a couple of guys who claim they want to help the site...to battle on the battle site.

I'm not looking to drop 5 every week for 2 years before we recruit a single member. I'm not and don't want to do this shit myself. I was basically trying to revive this shit for me and the other guys that signed up. If it's just me and you who were going to reach the numbers, I no longer give a fuck about the rest of them. I already didn't give a fuck about those uninterested in helping. So that leaves me with me and you. You're sound enough mate, but I'm not putting in all that work for us alone. There has to be more who actually want the site to get there, and this challenge has exposed there aren't.

Steve Jobs was building something. We're reviving something. You need a core group to do that. There is none. Clearly the other guys don't give a fuck. So what do you do then? If TNA is to get back to it's best days, they can't do it with Shark Boy and ODB. They need a roster. Our roster just proved they don't give a fuck.

I'm not looking to sit here day and night putting in work for no money. I wanted to create a base, and let it snowball. 10 guys dropping 5 a week means new members stick around, means new members pick up the slack when the 10 aren't involved anymore and the same amount of battles are done. Then we can move onto recruiting campaigns and stuff. But if no one's even arsed helping me at step 1, I'm not sitting here for the next 10 steps like a fucking saddo doing everything myself while these guys have 2 battles a year in a tournament and brag about their no show title wins. Fuck them and fuck that.

You are saying this shit to me? Go ahead...take the lead. See how long you can make it.
 
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