Is the UFC fake? - Page 3 - Lets Beef

#1 02-10-2017, 05:06 AM

@roh with the necro bump.

Let's bring the topic back: Is UFC a work?

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Side note: Never forget that professional wrestling(during its earliest inceptions) was also a real athletic competition.

02-10-2017, 05:06 AM

@roh with the necro bump.

Let's bring the topic back: Is UFC a work?

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Side note: Never forget that professional wrestling(during its earliest inceptions) was also a real athletic competition.

Thug Killaa · #2 02-10-2017, 05:29 AM

There's a difference between being rigged and being fake

UFC is real but can be rigged. Not just UFC but MMA in general.
Wwe is fake so there are no chances of rigging

UFC is real, the punches that are thrown, the kicks that are landed... it's all real
Wwe- the punches just rub off of the other persons head and never really land

UFC isn't a work, just look at Lawler vs McDonald or Jones vs Rua

#TeamJonesForLife

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Cain vs Bigfoot Silva
Jones vs Gustafsson
Any JOE LAUZON or Diego Sanchez fight (especially vs Clay guida)

It's all real. The punches and kicks land accurately and don't just "brush off" the other persons head or body.

The fights are definitely real. The drama can be staged tho, like the water bottle incident between Conor Mcgregor and Nate Diaz or the backstage brawls between Khabib and Conor

Thug Killaa · 02-10-2017, 05:29 AM

There's a difference between being rigged and being fake

UFC is real but can be rigged. Not just UFC but MMA in general.
Wwe is fake so there are no chances of rigging

UFC is real, the punches that are thrown, the kicks that are landed... it's all real
Wwe- the punches just rub off of the other persons head and never really land

UFC isn't a work, just look at Lawler vs McDonald or Jones vs Rua

#TeamJonesForLife

---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 AM ----------

Cain vs Bigfoot Silva
Jones vs Gustafsson
Any JOE LAUZON or Diego Sanchez fight (especially vs Clay guida)

It's all real. The punches and kicks land accurately and don't just "brush off" the other persons head or body.

The fights are definitely real. The drama can be staged tho, like the water bottle incident between Conor Mcgregor and Nate Diaz or the backstage brawls between Khabib and Conor

#3 02-10-2017, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roh

There's a difference between being rigged and being fake

UFC is real but can be rigged. Not just UFC but MMA in general.
Wwe is fake so there are no chances of rigging

UFC is real, the punches that are thrown, the kicks that are landed... it's all real
Wwe- the punches just rub off of the other persons head and never really land

UFC isn't a work, just look at Lawler vs McDonald or Jones vs Rua

#TeamJonesForLife

---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 AM ----------

Cain vs Bigfoot Silva
Jones vs Gustafsson
Any JOE LAUZON or Diego Sanchez fight (especially vs Clay guida)

It's all real. The punches and kicks land accurately and don't just "brush off" the other persons head or body.

The fights are definitely real. The drama can be staged tho, like the water bottle incident between Conor Mcgregor and Nate Diaz or the backstage brawls between Khabib and Conor

It should be noted that I'm not talking about the fights themselves. I'm talking about the booking, pre-fight banter, and the outcomes. So, the WHOLE of the UFC, not simply the martial arts.

Side note; You can be in a shoot, but still be working. If that makes sense to you. What I mean by this, is that you could be legitimately fighting, but, not fighting with the intent of serious injury. Or with the intent to go full boar.

02-10-2017, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roh

There's a difference between being rigged and being fake

UFC is real but can be rigged. Not just UFC but MMA in general.
Wwe is fake so there are no chances of rigging

UFC is real, the punches that are thrown, the kicks that are landed... it's all real
Wwe- the punches just rub off of the other persons head and never really land

UFC isn't a work, just look at Lawler vs McDonald or Jones vs Rua

#TeamJonesForLife

---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 AM ----------

Cain vs Bigfoot Silva
Jones vs Gustafsson
Any JOE LAUZON or Diego Sanchez fight (especially vs Clay guida)

It's all real. The punches and kicks land accurately and don't just "brush off" the other persons head or body.

The fights are definitely real. The drama can be staged tho, like the water bottle incident between Conor Mcgregor and Nate Diaz or the backstage brawls between Khabib and Conor

It should be noted that I'm not talking about the fights themselves. I'm talking about the booking, pre-fight banter, and the outcomes. So, the WHOLE of the UFC, not simply the martial arts.

Side note; You can be in a shoot, but still be working. If that makes sense to you. What I mean by this, is that you could be legitimately fighting, but, not fighting with the intent of serious injury. Or with the intent to go full boar.

#4 02-10-2017, 07:01 AM

This is ridiculous but I'm sure you knew that. If UFC was fake then we would see a whole load of different results. You think Nunes would of beat Ronda if UFC was fake? When they just spent forever marketing Ronda.

@Minge McMahon to thread.

02-10-2017, 07:01 AM

This is ridiculous but I'm sure you knew that. If UFC was fake then we would see a whole load of different results. You think Nunes would of beat Ronda if UFC was fake? When they just spent forever marketing Ronda.

@Minge McMahon to thread.

Thug Killaa · #5 02-10-2017, 08:00 AM

lol I can actually beat Eth in any MMA related to argument

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I'm actually a writer for this website and my predictions are always true

Like for this example:- predicted it down to a tee with logical explanations too

https://totalsports.com.au/ufc/diaz-...fc-202-review/

Thug Killaa · 02-10-2017, 08:00 AM

lol I can actually beat Eth in any MMA related to argument

---------- Post added at 08:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 AM ----------

I'm actually a writer for this website and my predictions are always true

Like for this example:- predicted it down to a tee with logical explanations too

https://totalsports.com.au/ufc/diaz-...fc-202-review/

#6 02-10-2017, 08:05 AM

There have been works in mixed martial arts, some of them being admitted to by fighters in Pride. Remember, mixed martial arts comes more so from professional wrestling than it does from Bloodsport. The first mixed martial arts promotion that we have (minus one off vale tudo events) was Pancrase. Pancrase was set up by professional wrestlers, including Ken Shamrock, who wanted to prove to "elders" that a 'shoot' could be a draw.

That being said, I don't believe there has ever been a "work" in the UFC. I also don't believe something like Kimbo Vs Shamrock was a work either, just based on the type of action we saw in the fight. I have yet to see Tito Ortiz Vs Chael Sonnen, but based off of the character of both men I wouldn't put it past them. I'd only disagree with it being a work in regards to the fact that Ortiz was retiring after the fight, and it makes more sense promotionally for the company to want the guy continuing fighting (and likely headlining against Wanderlei Silva some point in the near future) to get the rub.

02-10-2017, 08:05 AM

There have been works in mixed martial arts, some of them being admitted to by fighters in Pride. Remember, mixed martial arts comes more so from professional wrestling than it does from Bloodsport. The first mixed martial arts promotion that we have (minus one off vale tudo events) was Pancrase. Pancrase was set up by professional wrestlers, including Ken Shamrock, who wanted to prove to "elders" that a 'shoot' could be a draw.

That being said, I don't believe there has ever been a "work" in the UFC. I also don't believe something like Kimbo Vs Shamrock was a work either, just based on the type of action we saw in the fight. I have yet to see Tito Ortiz Vs Chael Sonnen, but based off of the character of both men I wouldn't put it past them. I'd only disagree with it being a work in regards to the fact that Ortiz was retiring after the fight, and it makes more sense promotionally for the company to want the guy continuing fighting (and likely headlining against Wanderlei Silva some point in the near future) to get the rub.

**Mindless** · #7 02-10-2017, 08:47 AM

Ever notice nobody ever just straight up breaks somebody else's arm with a kimora? It's because they're working...

**Mindless** · 02-10-2017, 08:47 AM

Ever notice nobody ever just straight up breaks somebody else's arm with a kimora? It's because they're working...

#8 02-10-2017, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindless

Ever notice nobody ever just straight up breaks somebody else's arm with a kimora? It's because they're working...

Kimura*

And someone in work the other day tried to tell me that Brock Lesnar actually broke Triple H's arm with a kimura. It amuses me considering Brock Lesnar probably doesn't even know how to do a fucking kimura haha.

02-10-2017, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindless

Ever notice nobody ever just straight up breaks somebody else's arm with a kimora? It's because they're working...

Kimura*

And someone in work the other day tried to tell me that Brock Lesnar actually broke Triple H's arm with a kimura. It amuses me considering Brock Lesnar probably doesn't even know how to do a fucking kimura haha.

**Mindless** · #9 02-10-2017, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minge McMahon

Kimura*

And someone in work the other day tried to tell me that Brock Lesnar actually broke Triple H's arm with a kimura. It amuses me considering Brock Lesnar probably doesn't even know how to do a fucking kimura haha.

It was kayfabe.

**Mindless** · 02-10-2017, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minge McMahon

Kimura*

And someone in work the other day tried to tell me that Brock Lesnar actually broke Triple H's arm with a kimura. It amuses me considering Brock Lesnar probably doesn't even know how to do a fucking kimura haha.

It was kayfabe.