Religious conversation

[Babylon]

Let's have a bit of a religious conversation, shall we? Only rules are don't get butthurt, and don't be a cunt.


My question is, what reason to you have to not accept Evolution as the most likely situation equaling in our existence, religious people?

Generally ignorant things said by people who have no clue what they're talking about on this subject:

"We came from monkeys" No. We didn't. They are a distant "cousin" like creature to us.

"How did life start, then?" Evolution says nothing about the origins of life. Evolution is simply how it evolved once it was already here.

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And now I'm going to simply explain what Evolution is, to those who don't really know.


Every living organism is made up of cells, these cells hold a nucleus, the nucleus holds chromosomes, the chromosomes hold DNA, DNA is made up of Genes, genes which determine the characteristics that make up whatever the living organism "is". Your genes determined that you are blonde, brunette, are generally tall, etc, etc, etc. Each time a species gives birth, the characteristics of the offspring vary. None are alike, even twins are genetically different. This increases the diversity and uniqueness within the species immensely, and never ceases as long as reproduction occurs. Mutations, or random changes in DNA determine even further changes within the offspring, these mutations can result in cell manipulation, giving you cancer, or in neutral/positive ways, such as giving you blue eyes. These random mutations affect a gamete, or a sperm/egg cell, in random ways. Here's where natural selection comes into play, there are extensive variation within a species. Environmental influences have a large affect on species, and these selections are determined by things such as parasites, predators, toxins, climate, changes in habitat, etc. Every living creature is affected by this selection, and it helps them to survive in their environment. Those with the beneficial mix of random genetic characteristics do not die off from the surrounding effects of their environment, and those who have poor traits within it die off. This leaves, for the most part, the ones with the genetic prowess to survive.

The result of these things surviving are them passing on their traits to their offspring, who will get a random mix of the traits from within their parents and have their own as well.


Take the Darwins Finch argument for example:

A long time ago a group of Finches were blown onto the Galapagos islands, most likely by a large storm. Whilst there, they mated. After a time, there were an insane amount of Finches on these islands, and food became scarce. Throughout the years of scarce food supplies, some Finches were born with sharper-more pointy beaks, so that they could pluck worms from the ground to eat. Other finches were born with more bulky beaks, so that they could crack open seeds and eat the insides. These very slightly beaks were a result of random genetic chances, as explained above. As more of these Finches were born with these slight differences in beak types, they began to create ecological niches, and within these niches they were safe from the food competition the entirety of the population gave. A lot of finches born with normal beaks died off, because the food scarcity became too much and they starved. The niche-dwelling Finches strayed to themselves to avoid any of this competition, and began to mate with finches that primarily used the same niche (Note that not all of the population did this, just a substantial amount.) Over the course of many generations, these separate mating niches produces varying offspring based upon not only the hereditary genetics given from their parents, but the random DNA explained above. The beak difference characteristics were enhanced over many generations, as the parents that had them were passed on to the different birds. On and on these beak types became more and more prevalent until the seed crackers and the worm-diggers were so different genetically that they were no longer able to mate with one another. Thus two separate species of Finch were born. This is evolution. Today there are 14 different species living on the Galapagos islands, all descending from that flock that originated all that time ago. This explains why apes scale from tree to tree, why fish adapted lights on their heads to combat the darkness & be able to hunt.


So, care to answer my first question, anyone?

[Babylon]

Let's have a bit of a religious conversation, shall we? Only rules are don't get butthurt, and don't be a cunt.


My question is, what reason to you have to not accept Evolution as the most likely situation equaling in our existence, religious people?

Generally ignorant things said by people who have no clue what they're talking about on this subject:

"We came from monkeys" No. We didn't. They are a distant "cousin" like creature to us.

"How did life start, then?" Evolution says nothing about the origins of life. Evolution is simply how it evolved once it was already here.

etc

etc

etc

And now I'm going to simply explain what Evolution is, to those who don't really know.


Every living organism is made up of cells, these cells hold a nucleus, the nucleus holds chromosomes, the chromosomes hold DNA, DNA is made up of Genes, genes which determine the characteristics that make up whatever the living organism "is". Your genes determined that you are blonde, brunette, are generally tall, etc, etc, etc. Each time a species gives birth, the characteristics of the offspring vary. None are alike, even twins are genetically different. This increases the diversity and uniqueness within the species immensely, and never ceases as long as reproduction occurs. Mutations, or random changes in DNA determine even further changes within the offspring, these mutations can result in cell manipulation, giving you cancer, or in neutral/positive ways, such as giving you blue eyes. These random mutations affect a gamete, or a sperm/egg cell, in random ways. Here's where natural selection comes into play, there are extensive variation within a species. Environmental influences have a large affect on species, and these selections are determined by things such as parasites, predators, toxins, climate, changes in habitat, etc. Every living creature is affected by this selection, and it helps them to survive in their environment. Those with the beneficial mix of random genetic characteristics do not die off from the surrounding effects of their environment, and those who have poor traits within it die off. This leaves, for the most part, the ones with the genetic prowess to survive.

The result of these things surviving are them passing on their traits to their offspring, who will get a random mix of the traits from within their parents and have their own as well.


Take the Darwins Finch argument for example:

A long time ago a group of Finches were blown onto the Galapagos islands, most likely by a large storm. Whilst there, they mated. After a time, there were an insane amount of Finches on these islands, and food became scarce. Throughout the years of scarce food supplies, some Finches were born with sharper-more pointy beaks, so that they could pluck worms from the ground to eat. Other finches were born with more bulky beaks, so that they could crack open seeds and eat the insides. These very slightly beaks were a result of random genetic chances, as explained above. As more of these Finches were born with these slight differences in beak types, they began to create ecological niches, and within these niches they were safe from the food competition the entirety of the population gave. A lot of finches born with normal beaks died off, because the food scarcity became too much and they starved. The niche-dwelling Finches strayed to themselves to avoid any of this competition, and began to mate with finches that primarily used the same niche (Note that not all of the population did this, just a substantial amount.) Over the course of many generations, these separate mating niches produces varying offspring based upon not only the hereditary genetics given from their parents, but the random DNA explained above. The beak difference characteristics were enhanced over many generations, as the parents that had them were passed on to the different birds. On and on these beak types became more and more prevalent until the seed crackers and the worm-diggers were so different genetically that they were no longer able to mate with one another. Thus two separate species of Finch were born. This is evolution. Today there are 14 different species living on the Galapagos islands, all descending from that flock that originated all that time ago. This explains why apes scale from tree to tree, why fish adapted lights on their heads to combat the darkness & be able to hunt.


So, care to answer my first question, anyone?