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Unread 06-19-2014, 01:58 PM
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Nah, I just think the wordplay itself has to work both ways, not necessarily be a full gramatically perfect sentence. Because in that aspect, neither ways work because a gramatically formed sentence cant start with "because".



Way I seen the wordplay.... "Wheel Brake & Tire crews" stands on it's own legs. It's the oronym in itself that makes sence.


We will break entire crews, and wheel brake and tire crews. Now I know what you're referring to as well, when you use homonyms and homophones, I think that's the more traditional way to do it when you try to formulate the sentence concept to work. some wack shit but like "blue ya shot" like a smurf in a shooting range. <-- That would work both ways because of the homophone used. but when you use an oronym, it's tricky because they don't work the same way homophones work, seeing as phonetically it changes the entire sentence itself.

"The Stuff He Knows can be dangerous."
"The Stuffy Nose can be dangerous."

^ See what I mean? So obviously when using an oronym like that, it would change the sentence formation and concept itself to be something entirely different.... but that's what oronyms do.


Just saying.... You don't have to think it's "Hot", Or "Dope", but... Gramatically.... PulSe is right.... ON THAT SINGLE CONCEPT anyways... And I don't think i've ever said those words before.


Excuse me while I bleach my mouth out and kill myself now. lol.
That's lazy and imperfect in my opinion. I think the general consensus of accurate wordplay nowadays is that it has to work both ways as a wordplay without being forced and work in natural speech and as a grammatically correct sentence.

Oldheads are still coming around to this but I personally think it's what real skillful wordplay should be. Thanks for the input dude.

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lol @ ViTRiOL saying he understands what wordplay is then agreeing that Dean had a solid wordplay

So both of you explain to me how Dean's wordplay makes sense when read both ways

I'm trying to learn how to jack it with a size 2 coat, yo
Did I agree with the example? No. Read up proper. It makes much more sense that what you attempted however.

I am crediting Dean on his knowledge on the matter, everyone else has missed the point. Including you.
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Unread 06-19-2014, 01:58 PM   #11
 
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Originally Posted by Skizzo View Post
Nah, I just think the wordplay itself has to work both ways, not necessarily be a full gramatically perfect sentence. Because in that aspect, neither ways work because a gramatically formed sentence cant start with "because".



Way I seen the wordplay.... "Wheel Brake & Tire crews" stands on it's own legs. It's the oronym in itself that makes sence.


We will break entire crews, and wheel brake and tire crews. Now I know what you're referring to as well, when you use homonyms and homophones, I think that's the more traditional way to do it when you try to formulate the sentence concept to work. some wack shit but like "blue ya shot" like a smurf in a shooting range. <-- That would work both ways because of the homophone used. but when you use an oronym, it's tricky because they don't work the same way homophones work, seeing as phonetically it changes the entire sentence itself.

"The Stuff He Knows can be dangerous."
"The Stuffy Nose can be dangerous."

^ See what I mean? So obviously when using an oronym like that, it would change the sentence formation and concept itself to be something entirely different.... but that's what oronyms do.


Just saying.... You don't have to think it's "Hot", Or "Dope", but... Gramatically.... PulSe is right.... ON THAT SINGLE CONCEPT anyways... And I don't think i've ever said those words before.


Excuse me while I bleach my mouth out and kill myself now. lol.
That's lazy and imperfect in my opinion. I think the general consensus of accurate wordplay nowadays is that it has to work both ways as a wordplay without being forced and work in natural speech and as a grammatically correct sentence.

Oldheads are still coming around to this but I personally think it's what real skillful wordplay should be. Thanks for the input dude.

---------- Post added at 06:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:56 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Godbody View Post
lol @ ViTRiOL saying he understands what wordplay is then agreeing that Dean had a solid wordplay

So both of you explain to me how Dean's wordplay makes sense when read both ways

I'm trying to learn how to jack it with a size 2 coat, yo
Did I agree with the example? No. Read up proper. It makes much more sense that what you attempted however.

I am crediting Dean on his knowledge on the matter, everyone else has missed the point. Including you.
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