Conversation between EtH and NOBLE

^That was what I said when NOBLE mentioned it. It'd remain a contest of 'who the better rapper is'.

^That was what I said when NOBLE mentioned it. It'd remain a contest of 'who the better rapper is'.

[NOBLE]

It's like the difference between reading a book and watching a movie. You can read in a book that a guy walks into a bar and comes across a midget. You sort of have to use your own imagination in conjunction with what the author has written to imagine how that guy and the midget look.
If you watched it on film, it would be a specific guy/actor, a specific midget, and a specific set...so it's less dependent on your imagination cause you're looking at it. That's sort of the difference between reading a topical and hearing it. Words sometimes vary in meaning depending on how they are conveyed. When reading a topical, you have to sub-vocalize it and even create the timing and pace on your own. No matter how beautiful the piece is or how well it is written, to a certain extent, you may be giving the author more credit than they are due because most of the picture that's formed comes from your own imagination.
When it is vocalized, you get that other dimension. You get more of a sense of the conviction behind the words. And yes, that would be something that voters would judge too, and I guess that's what you're trying to avoid. But in a way, it's actually more of a true measure of a topical writer/poet. Reading and vocalizing a topical out loud CAN translate well, but it might just take a bit more work on the part of both the writer as well as the audience.

[NOBLE]

It's like the difference between reading a book and watching a movie. You can read in a book that a guy walks into a bar and comes across a midget. You sort of have to use your own imagination in conjunction with what the author has written to imagine how that guy and the midget look.
If you watched it on film, it would be a specific guy/actor, a specific midget, and a specific set...so it's less dependent on your imagination cause you're looking at it. That's sort of the difference between reading a topical and hearing it. Words sometimes vary in meaning depending on how they are conveyed. When reading a topical, you have to sub-vocalize it and even create the timing and pace on your own. No matter how beautiful the piece is or how well it is written, to a certain extent, you may be giving the author more credit than they are due because most of the picture that's formed comes from your own imagination.
When it is vocalized, you get that other dimension. You get more of a sense of the conviction behind the words. And yes, that would be something that voters would judge too, and I guess that's what you're trying to avoid. But in a way, it's actually more of a true measure of a topical writer/poet. Reading and vocalizing a topical out loud CAN translate well, but it might just take a bit more work on the part of both the writer as well as the audience.

[IV]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

It's like the difference between reading a book and watching a movie. You can read in a book that a guy walks into a bar and comes across a midget. You sort of have to use your own imagination in conjunction with what the author has written to imagine how that guy and the midget look.
If you watched it on film, it would be a specific guy/actor, a specific midget, and a specific set...so it's less dependent on your imagination cause you're looking at it. That's sort of the difference between reading a topical and hearing it. Words sometimes vary in meaning depending on how they are conveyed. When reading a topical, you have to sub-vocalize it and even create the timing and pace on your own. No matter how beautiful the piece is or how well it is written, to a certain extent, you may be giving the author more credit than they are due because most of the picture that's formed comes from your own imagination.
When it is vocalized, you get that other dimension. You get more of a sense of the conviction behind the words. And yes, that would be something that voters would judge too, and I guess that's what you're trying to avoid. But in a way, it's actually more of a true measure of a topical writer/poet. Reading and vocalizing a topical out loud CAN translate well, but it might just take a bit more work on the part of both the writer as well as the audience.

Giving that "extra dimension" takes away a huge factor of poetry.. giving the reader the chance to use their imagination and actually think and interpret the material in their own way. You're just reading out a story in audio.

[IV]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

It's like the difference between reading a book and watching a movie. You can read in a book that a guy walks into a bar and comes across a midget. You sort of have to use your own imagination in conjunction with what the author has written to imagine how that guy and the midget look.
If you watched it on film, it would be a specific guy/actor, a specific midget, and a specific set...so it's less dependent on your imagination cause you're looking at it. That's sort of the difference between reading a topical and hearing it. Words sometimes vary in meaning depending on how they are conveyed. When reading a topical, you have to sub-vocalize it and even create the timing and pace on your own. No matter how beautiful the piece is or how well it is written, to a certain extent, you may be giving the author more credit than they are due because most of the picture that's formed comes from your own imagination.
When it is vocalized, you get that other dimension. You get more of a sense of the conviction behind the words. And yes, that would be something that voters would judge too, and I guess that's what you're trying to avoid. But in a way, it's actually more of a true measure of a topical writer/poet. Reading and vocalizing a topical out loud CAN translate well, but it might just take a bit more work on the part of both the writer as well as the audience.

Giving that "extra dimension" takes away a huge factor of poetry.. giving the reader the chance to use their imagination and actually think and interpret the material in their own way. You're just reading out a story in audio.

[FiNAL WoRD]

Really? I'm am not reading four pages of ur two disagreeing like a married couple

[FiNAL WoRD]

Really? I'm am not reading four pages of ur two disagreeing like a married couple

[Askari]

Eth has a point, but topicals can translate to audio just like regular battles do; you need to have the delivery as well as the content. Sure, someone might have a better story but not deliver it well and that'll cost them the battle; same as standard battling. You have to have that other aspect in your arsenal when partaking in any audio contest. The only real issue I think it poses is accent barriers (as seen with myself and IV in the first audio topical tourney).

[Askari]

Eth has a point, but topicals can translate to audio just like regular battles do; you need to have the delivery as well as the content. Sure, someone might have a better story but not deliver it well and that'll cost them the battle; same as standard battling. You have to have that other aspect in your arsenal when partaking in any audio contest. The only real issue I think it poses is accent barriers (as seen with myself and IV in the first audio topical tourney).

@Askari, we need a national accent audio, you sheep shagging wank shaft.

Completely agree with Askari that it adds more elements. The difference between text battling and topicals to me, that makes a big difference here, is that I really classify topical makers as WRITERS. Telling a writer they aren't good enough because their audio delivery was bad would be harsh to me.

@Askari, we need a national accent audio, you sheep shagging wank shaft.

Completely agree with Askari that it adds more elements. The difference between text battling and topicals to me, that makes a big difference here, is that I really classify topical makers as WRITERS. Telling a writer they aren't good enough because their audio delivery was bad would be harsh to me.

[IV]

Yeah, text battles are rips of normal battling for people that don't wanna actually rap for whatever reasons, topicals are MEANT to be written, so why add in a "who has the better accent" element for something that was suppose to be read and show off writing skills

[IV]

Yeah, text battles are rips of normal battling for people that don't wanna actually rap for whatever reasons, topicals are MEANT to be written, so why add in a "who has the better accent" element for something that was suppose to be read and show off writing skills

"Storytelling Tournament" would be a better classification of the audio topical tournament.

"Storytelling Tournament" would be a better classification of the audio topical tournament.