Concepts That Should Never Be Used Again

[Kiwi Peewee]

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

[Kiwi Peewee]

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

Originally Posted by Punk

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

"Punk wouldn't make a comeback if you'd revived The Ramones!"


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Originally Posted by Punk

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

"Punk wouldn't make a comeback if you'd revived The Ramones!"


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[Denton]

Disguise / Da Skies

[Denton]

Disguise / Da Skies

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by Lil Talent

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

I see a lot of new guys with 3 word setups. Like tell them to expand they’re ideas but I feel they have no clue what I mean. Bars that simple are cool as jabs but you gotta add more to it ya know? You know what I mean but maybe I should make a punchline tip post.

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by Lil Talent

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

I see a lot of new guys with 3 word setups. Like tell them to expand they’re ideas but I feel they have no clue what I mean. Bars that simple are cool as jabs but you gotta add more to it ya know? You know what I mean but maybe I should make a punchline tip post.

[KG The Prince]

Originally Posted by GOOD GRIEF

Nah. It more so felt like you were saying don’t use it if it’s been used that way before.

Saying Don’t use Seul/Soul or Kevin Gar Bars since the wp of Seul/Soul isn’t fresh in itself don’t use it.

If I use a Soul/Seul bar and it’s dope and done fresh then sucks for you tbh. Or like if I use a KG bar talking about an incident Kevin was in outside of basketball or something then maybe that’s never been done before. But if it sucks well then I should be shitted on twice as hard accordingly.

It’s like the argument against gun bars. (Which in itself is just plain preference)

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But of course since Soul/Seul is used so much it’s EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to dig for something fresh out of it. But as battlers it’s our responsibility to either dig till we find it or move to another concept.

But you can’t just say “you can’t do that against me” right off the bat.

Lol okay. Calm down. Use 'em if you want to

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Originally Posted by Punk

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

You've always hated that shit

[KG The Prince]

Originally Posted by GOOD GRIEF

Nah. It more so felt like you were saying don’t use it if it’s been used that way before.

Saying Don’t use Seul/Soul or Kevin Gar Bars since the wp of Seul/Soul isn’t fresh in itself don’t use it.

If I use a Soul/Seul bar and it’s dope and done fresh then sucks for you tbh. Or like if I use a KG bar talking about an incident Kevin was in outside of basketball or something then maybe that’s never been done before. But if it sucks well then I should be shitted on twice as hard accordingly.

It’s like the argument against gun bars. (Which in itself is just plain preference)

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But of course since Soul/Seul is used so much it’s EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to dig for something fresh out of it. But as battlers it’s our responsibility to either dig till we find it or move to another concept.

But you can’t just say “you can’t do that against me” right off the bat.

Lol okay. Calm down. Use 'em if you want to

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Originally Posted by Punk

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

You've always hated that shit

Originally Posted by Shodan

This is a non-exhaustive list of concepts that have been used so many times by so many different people that nobody should ever use them again, unless they think of a spin on it that's so clever that it makes up for how bad the basic concept is, which you won't. I'm not going to bother with references to specific battles where they were used. Just read and learn.

The list will be updated as suggestions come in.

Defeat / Da Feet - This one is so pathetically bad and overused that it's more often used ironically than seriously at this point.

Bars / Prison - Prison cells have bars on them. We know this. While I'm at it, I should mention bars / phone charge and bars / establishments that serve alcohol in the same category. They're not QUITE as overused but pretty close. And, for the love of God, do not ever say anything about "the bar exam."

Lines / lines of coke - See above.

Bar buryin' / Barbarian - A good example of a wordplay that's not really trivial, but obvious enough that a bunch of different people have thought of it.

Sho / Show versus me and Lock(hart) / Lock (as in a door) vs Lockhart - Must be the 2 most used/abused/overused nameplays ever.

Fair In Height / Fahrenheit vs Celsius - The Sho / Show and Lock / Lock ones are super obvious, but it escapes me how so many people have apparently thought of this exact same wordplay by themselves. I bet they all thought they were geniuses when they came up with it, too. Don't let yourself be the next one.

Calling a round object a ROUND - Not just overused (to a ridiculous extent at that) but nonsensical. Even worse than defeat / da feet in that regard. NOTE: This doesn't apply to food items or coins made of precious metal due to little-known grammatical technicalities.

Anything about "da hood" which ties into KKK outfits, the hood of a car, or hooded parkas/jackets/sweaters/etc. - Anyone who does this deserves to be sent to Guantanamo Bay and subjected to hooding (look it up if you don't know what that is).

This thread is meaningless. You can’t tell a writer what he can and cannot write. It’s no arguing with that. Of course we want everyone to elevate and be creative but its common sense not to use redundant angles unless you can put a fresh spin on it. I’m sure kg gets tired of the Garnett angles. Esso with the drug references. Caked with the flips but it’s common. I’m not about to tell you what you can and cannot do. If you want to rap about a round, cool. That’s your style. If you want to rap about Harry Potter or some science shit, so fucking what. Everyone is different and maybe some guys favor to a concept style more than the others but that’s what makes the site unique. This is equivalent to Organik telling a smack rapper he can’t rap about rounds or w.e nameflips that’s been used already because he’s tired of it.

Yes, we’ve seen concepts that’s been used again and again.
I’m sure I can go to any battle and see a used concept.
It’s not about what you use. It’s how you say it

Originally Posted by Shodan

This is a non-exhaustive list of concepts that have been used so many times by so many different people that nobody should ever use them again, unless they think of a spin on it that's so clever that it makes up for how bad the basic concept is, which you won't. I'm not going to bother with references to specific battles where they were used. Just read and learn.

The list will be updated as suggestions come in.

Defeat / Da Feet - This one is so pathetically bad and overused that it's more often used ironically than seriously at this point.

Bars / Prison - Prison cells have bars on them. We know this. While I'm at it, I should mention bars / phone charge and bars / establishments that serve alcohol in the same category. They're not QUITE as overused but pretty close. And, for the love of God, do not ever say anything about "the bar exam."

Lines / lines of coke - See above.

Bar buryin' / Barbarian - A good example of a wordplay that's not really trivial, but obvious enough that a bunch of different people have thought of it.

Sho / Show versus me and Lock(hart) / Lock (as in a door) vs Lockhart - Must be the 2 most used/abused/overused nameplays ever.

Fair In Height / Fahrenheit vs Celsius - The Sho / Show and Lock / Lock ones are super obvious, but it escapes me how so many people have apparently thought of this exact same wordplay by themselves. I bet they all thought they were geniuses when they came up with it, too. Don't let yourself be the next one.

Calling a round object a ROUND - Not just overused (to a ridiculous extent at that) but nonsensical. Even worse than defeat / da feet in that regard. NOTE: This doesn't apply to food items or coins made of precious metal due to little-known grammatical technicalities.

Anything about "da hood" which ties into KKK outfits, the hood of a car, or hooded parkas/jackets/sweaters/etc. - Anyone who does this deserves to be sent to Guantanamo Bay and subjected to hooding (look it up if you don't know what that is).

This thread is meaningless. You can’t tell a writer what he can and cannot write. It’s no arguing with that. Of course we want everyone to elevate and be creative but its common sense not to use redundant angles unless you can put a fresh spin on it. I’m sure kg gets tired of the Garnett angles. Esso with the drug references. Caked with the flips but it’s common. I’m not about to tell you what you can and cannot do. If you want to rap about a round, cool. That’s your style. If you want to rap about Harry Potter or some science shit, so fucking what. Everyone is different and maybe some guys favor to a concept style more than the others but that’s what makes the site unique. This is equivalent to Organik telling a smack rapper he can’t rap about rounds or w.e nameflips that’s been used already because he’s tired of it.

Yes, we’ve seen concepts that’s been used again and again.
I’m sure I can go to any battle and see a used concept.
It’s not about what you use. It’s how you say it

Cakedout used 80% of these concepts in his last battle.

Cakedout used 80% of these concepts in his last battle.

Spoken like a true fan

Spoken like a true fan