Staff In Question Pt 1 - One RULE for some...

[EtH]

Fun fact; I wanted tracks deleted while banned but NOBLE said he wouldn't unban me so he offered to delete my account instead which he did.

[EtH]

Fun fact; I wanted tracks deleted while banned but NOBLE said he wouldn't unban me so he offered to delete my account instead which he did.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

The difference between Punk and all those other Hall of Famers is that they never deleted their accounts. I'm neither arguing for nor against the multi-accounts of Hall of Famers having the title, but what I can say is that it has been that way for the longest (HoF multi accounts also bearing the title). @Jimmy Hoffa Manhattan was turned down for his request to have his GC title on his alternate account because it's not a HoF title. Only HoF titles have been treated that way where all accounts bear them, even the ones where they weren't earned on. Again, I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it's been.
As far as account deletions, people shouldn't be allowed to delete their accounts then come back and rock titles they earned on the old account. Every time someone, especially a long-standing member deletes their account, it's a loss for all of us in terms of forum and battle history. Them coming back on a new account doesn't bring back all of that history. Giving them back the titles is almost like rewarding them. We don't want people to delete their accounts but the option must be there so that the site is GDRP compliant. Rewarding people who have deleted their accounts and come back is counterproductive towards that goal. What's the point of us not wanting people to delete their accounts but yet when they do they can come back and be rewarded and honored? This isn't anything personal against Punk or anyone else. But you should all really think about if that's the direction you want the site to go in.

This is the last ill speak on it because I been bk n forth in chat.


The sites dead, I get where you're coming from but they aren't in the position to make that call and have the site go from strength. Cutting your nose to spite your face. The sites in the dumps.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

The difference between Punk and all those other Hall of Famers is that they never deleted their accounts. I'm neither arguing for nor against the multi-accounts of Hall of Famers having the title, but what I can say is that it has been that way for the longest (HoF multi accounts also bearing the title). @Jimmy Hoffa Manhattan was turned down for his request to have his GC title on his alternate account because it's not a HoF title. Only HoF titles have been treated that way where all accounts bear them, even the ones where they weren't earned on. Again, I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it's been.
As far as account deletions, people shouldn't be allowed to delete their accounts then come back and rock titles they earned on the old account. Every time someone, especially a long-standing member deletes their account, it's a loss for all of us in terms of forum and battle history. Them coming back on a new account doesn't bring back all of that history. Giving them back the titles is almost like rewarding them. We don't want people to delete their accounts but the option must be there so that the site is GDRP compliant. Rewarding people who have deleted their accounts and come back is counterproductive towards that goal. What's the point of us not wanting people to delete their accounts but yet when they do they can come back and be rewarded and honored? This isn't anything personal against Punk or anyone else. But you should all really think about if that's the direction you want the site to go in.

This is the last ill speak on it because I been bk n forth in chat.


The sites dead, I get where you're coming from but they aren't in the position to make that call and have the site go from strength. Cutting your nose to spite your face. The sites in the dumps.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

Fun fact; I wanted tracks deleted while banned but NOBLE said he wouldn't unban me so he offered to delete my account instead which he did.

I honestly don't remember, but if you agreed to have your banned account deleted so that your tracks would be erased as a secondary option to being unbanned so you can remove them yourself, sounds like something I would've done. Either way, what does that "fun fact" have to do with the discussion about people getting titles they earned from their deleted accounts?

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by U n E t H i C a L

Fun fact; I wanted tracks deleted while banned but NOBLE said he wouldn't unban me so he offered to delete my account instead which he did.

I honestly don't remember, but if you agreed to have your banned account deleted so that your tracks would be erased as a secondary option to being unbanned so you can remove them yourself, sounds like something I would've done. Either way, what does that "fun fact" have to do with the discussion about people getting titles they earned from their deleted accounts?

Now it’s all about the account a person earned it on, not their actual name. Lol lord man

Now it’s all about the account a person earned it on, not their actual name. Lol lord man

[Joe MuGGz]

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

This is the last ill speak on it because I been bk n forth in chat.


The sites dead, I get where you're coming from but they aren't in the position to make that call and have the site go from strength. Cutting your nose to spite your face. The sites in the dumps.

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

[Joe MuGGz]

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

This is the last ill speak on it because I been bk n forth in chat.


The sites dead, I get where you're coming from but they aren't in the position to make that call and have the site go from strength. Cutting your nose to spite your face. The sites in the dumps.

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

[Joe MuGGz]

Originally Posted by P u n k

Now it’s all about the account a person earned it on, not their actual name. Lol lord man

4 days to finally understand... that's retard status.

[Joe MuGGz]

Originally Posted by P u n k

Now it’s all about the account a person earned it on, not their actual name. Lol lord man

4 days to finally understand... that's retard status.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Joe MuGGz

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

The fact that you're an admin, who's been here just as long as I have, and still jump to posting that conclusion brings the irony of your jab at my activity into stark contrast. It also kinda shows just how out of touch you are with how members of these types of sites all too regularly conduct themselves on them.


I'll let you figure it out for yourself.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Joe MuGGz

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

The fact that you're an admin, who's been here just as long as I have, and still jump to posting that conclusion brings the irony of your jab at my activity into stark contrast. It also kinda shows just how out of touch you are with how members of these types of sites all too regularly conduct themselves on them.


I'll let you figure it out for yourself.

Originally Posted by Joe MuGGz

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

You’re forgetting that he was also mod around the same time of your time stamps. This is a terrible response. Almost embarrassing seeing that you already knew that.

Originally Posted by Joe MuGGz

You have 4 battles.. since 2012...

way to do your part

You’re forgetting that he was also mod around the same time of your time stamps. This is a terrible response. Almost embarrassing seeing that you already knew that.

[Student]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

The difference between Punk and all those other Hall of Famers is that they never deleted their accounts. I'm neither arguing for nor against the multi-accounts of Hall of Famers having the title, but what I can say is that it has been that way for the longest (HoF multi accounts also bearing the title). @Jimmy Hoffa Manhattan was turned down for his request to have his GC title on his alternate account because it's not a HoF title. Only HoF titles have been treated that way where all accounts bear them, even the ones where they weren't earned on. Again, I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it's been.
As far as account deletions, people shouldn't be allowed to delete their accounts then come back and rock titles they earned on the old account. Every time someone, especially a long-standing member deletes their account, it's a loss for all of us in terms of forum and battle history. Them coming back on a new account doesn't bring back all of that history. Giving them back the titles is almost like rewarding them. We don't want people to delete their accounts but the option must be there so that the site is GDRP compliant. Rewarding people who have deleted their accounts and come back is counterproductive towards that goal. What's the point of us not wanting people to delete their accounts but yet when they do they can come back and be rewarded and honored? This isn't anything personal against Punk or anyone else. But you should all really think about if that's the direction you want the site to go in.

THIS. 100%

@P u n k wasn't removed from the HoF, he forfeited his right to his HoF title by deleting his account, if Bleu were to return he would receive the same treatment. Nothing personal to both of them, they're both extremely creative but for their own reasons they decided to delete their accounts.

Also @Joe MuGGz didn't close Punk's HOF Induction page: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161734 it remains up and it wasn't previously closed. Bleu's is also up as account deletion shouldn't affect site history (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164234)

Like @NOBLE said, the HOF title has traditionally been awarded to several multiple accounts of some HOF users (See OP. for who) but there's no official rule about multiple accounts NOT being able to hold HOF titles. If you've spent enough time on here, dropped BARS, brought about content, changes, feedback, etc. to earn a Hall of Famer title then I think you've earned yourself a small perk of being about to display it on your (usually known) multiple accounts.

I'm up to put it to a vote but I agree with NOBLE's point about not encouraging users to delete their accounts, deleting site history, battles (especially tournament ones) forum posts, votes, etc. and one way we try to do this atm. is by not granting users who have deleted their accounts to get their titles back.

[Student]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

The difference between Punk and all those other Hall of Famers is that they never deleted their accounts. I'm neither arguing for nor against the multi-accounts of Hall of Famers having the title, but what I can say is that it has been that way for the longest (HoF multi accounts also bearing the title). @Jimmy Hoffa Manhattan was turned down for his request to have his GC title on his alternate account because it's not a HoF title. Only HoF titles have been treated that way where all accounts bear them, even the ones where they weren't earned on. Again, I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it's been.
As far as account deletions, people shouldn't be allowed to delete their accounts then come back and rock titles they earned on the old account. Every time someone, especially a long-standing member deletes their account, it's a loss for all of us in terms of forum and battle history. Them coming back on a new account doesn't bring back all of that history. Giving them back the titles is almost like rewarding them. We don't want people to delete their accounts but the option must be there so that the site is GDRP compliant. Rewarding people who have deleted their accounts and come back is counterproductive towards that goal. What's the point of us not wanting people to delete their accounts but yet when they do they can come back and be rewarded and honored? This isn't anything personal against Punk or anyone else. But you should all really think about if that's the direction you want the site to go in.

THIS. 100%

@P u n k wasn't removed from the HoF, he forfeited his right to his HoF title by deleting his account, if Bleu were to return he would receive the same treatment. Nothing personal to both of them, they're both extremely creative but for their own reasons they decided to delete their accounts.

Also @Joe MuGGz didn't close Punk's HOF Induction page: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161734 it remains up and it wasn't previously closed. Bleu's is also up as account deletion shouldn't affect site history (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164234)

Like @NOBLE said, the HOF title has traditionally been awarded to several multiple accounts of some HOF users (See OP. for who) but there's no official rule about multiple accounts NOT being able to hold HOF titles. If you've spent enough time on here, dropped BARS, brought about content, changes, feedback, etc. to earn a Hall of Famer title then I think you've earned yourself a small perk of being about to display it on your (usually known) multiple accounts.

I'm up to put it to a vote but I agree with NOBLE's point about not encouraging users to delete their accounts, deleting site history, battles (especially tournament ones) forum posts, votes, etc. and one way we try to do this atm. is by not granting users who have deleted their accounts to get their titles back.

[Denton]

Just give the man his titles

[Denton]

Just give the man his titles