Should X-Calibur be banned?

It has been brought to my attention that, for his actions in IM'ing me to vote on his battle, he has been issued nothing but a warning. First and foremost, is it not true that he has received warnings in the past for his illegal actions concerning the site rules? To my knowledge, he has even been, in the past, banned for this very same offense. Why, then, now that he is staff, is he magically allotted sanction from the site rules? What is the point in having a governing system of rules at all, if they are not enforced for EVERYONE. Lockhart was banned for this very reason. As was Grizz. Why were they not granted the same amnesty for this behavior that X-Calibur was? Why, now, is there this inherent double standard concerning staff? He has clearly shown, not only a lack of understanding about the rules, but, a habitual behavior in breaking these very rules appointed to the site. Does this, mean, then, that I now am allowed to IM someone promoting my battle? No, of course not. So, why, then, should the behavior be deemed acceptable by another individual, simply because they are a member of the staff?

Anyway, poll added. Vote, or don't. I don't give a fuck.

It has been brought to my attention that, for his actions in IM'ing me to vote on his battle, he has been issued nothing but a warning. First and foremost, is it not true that he has received warnings in the past for his illegal actions concerning the site rules? To my knowledge, he has even been, in the past, banned for this very same offense. Why, then, now that he is staff, is he magically allotted sanction from the site rules? What is the point in having a governing system of rules at all, if they are not enforced for EVERYONE. Lockhart was banned for this very reason. As was Grizz. Why were they not granted the same amnesty for this behavior that X-Calibur was? Why, now, is there this inherent double standard concerning staff? He has clearly shown, not only a lack of understanding about the rules, but, a habitual behavior in breaking these very rules appointed to the site. Does this, mean, then, that I now am allowed to IM someone promoting my battle? No, of course not. So, why, then, should the behavior be deemed acceptable by another individual, simply because they are a member of the staff?

Anyway, poll added. Vote, or don't. I don't give a fuck.

[J u s T C]

Be honest. Do you REALLY care about this or are you doing it for yourself for 1 reason or another?

[J u s T C]

Be honest. Do you REALLY care about this or are you doing it for yourself for 1 reason or another?

I legitimately care about the upholding of the rules on the site. I do my very best to abide by them, and I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

Edit:

I also strongly dislike double standards, which I'm sure also plays a partial role in this instance. Aside from that, I have no ulterior motive here.

I legitimately care about the upholding of the rules on the site. I do my very best to abide by them, and I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

Edit:

I also strongly dislike double standards, which I'm sure also plays a partial role in this instance. Aside from that, I have no ulterior motive here.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Rant

I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

Edit:

I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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Originally Posted by Murderous Swag

In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule

I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Rant

I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

Edit:

I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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Originally Posted by Murderous Swag

In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule

I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.

Originally Posted by Just C

I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.

Not if person B has a history of similar offenses, no, I do not.

Edit:

Also, Grizz I can understand. But, does Lock REALLY make X-Calibur look that good?

Originally Posted by Just C

I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.

Not if person B has a history of similar offenses, no, I do not.

Edit:

Also, Grizz I can understand. But, does Lock REALLY make X-Calibur look that good?

Originally Posted by Jason

I couldnt agree more with this.
Im not a staff member anymore so no one can say Im just playing for the home team anymore. but 99% of the time when a rule is broken on here there is more to consider than just the breaking of the rule. keep in mind i consider X-Cal to be a total square and ive hated him from pretty much the first second i e-encountered him so i have no reason at all to defend him .. but if the guy is working hard to promote activity and genuinely has an interest in keeping the site bumping then to ban/de-mod him for this is an overreaction.
theres absolutely no doubt that what he did was stupid and wrong ... but i really find it hard to imagine that a mod of all people would send an IM for someone to check out his battle without for some reason thinking it was acceptable cus you would get exposed immediately for it ... im not sure what got into this guys head thinking it was okay but i feel like he must have or he wouldnt have done something so blatantly retarded .. then again .. i tend to give people more credit than they deserve cus lots of people are just retards but anyway
i dunnno though .. if hes workin hard and doing good for the site than a warning seems fine .. at this point if he does anything even remotely wrong at this point hes gone .. and thats all that matters really

Lol'd @ e-encountered.

Originally Posted by Jason

I couldnt agree more with this.
Im not a staff member anymore so no one can say Im just playing for the home team anymore. but 99% of the time when a rule is broken on here there is more to consider than just the breaking of the rule. keep in mind i consider X-Cal to be a total square and ive hated him from pretty much the first second i e-encountered him so i have no reason at all to defend him .. but if the guy is working hard to promote activity and genuinely has an interest in keeping the site bumping then to ban/de-mod him for this is an overreaction.
theres absolutely no doubt that what he did was stupid and wrong ... but i really find it hard to imagine that a mod of all people would send an IM for someone to check out his battle without for some reason thinking it was acceptable cus you would get exposed immediately for it ... im not sure what got into this guys head thinking it was okay but i feel like he must have or he wouldnt have done something so blatantly retarded .. then again .. i tend to give people more credit than they deserve cus lots of people are just retards but anyway
i dunnno though .. if hes workin hard and doing good for the site than a warning seems fine .. at this point if he does anything even remotely wrong at this point hes gone .. and thats all that matters really

Lol'd @ e-encountered.

[Murderous Swag]

In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule

[Murderous Swag]

In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule

[OSKAR]

Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is

[OSKAR]

Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is

Originally Posted by OSKAR

Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is

I can understand your view point in the top portion. But, one would presume that he would know this information, if by nothing else alone, the lack of mods doing so.

Another note, which I have mentioned already, is still the history of these types of offenses by him. These two things, coupled with the length of time he has been a member of this site, lead me to believe that he should very well have known better.

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Originally Posted by OSKAR

So seing a guy get banned in expense to the development of the site pleases you more? I'm with Just C on that one.but if we decide to ban the dude I'd be with that to

It doesn't please me at all to see him banned. But, I am DISPLEASED by an individual member of the site receiving special treatment for offenses, that in the past, have resulted in immediate bans.

Originally Posted by OSKAR

Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is

I can understand your view point in the top portion. But, one would presume that he would know this information, if by nothing else alone, the lack of mods doing so.

Another note, which I have mentioned already, is still the history of these types of offenses by him. These two things, coupled with the length of time he has been a member of this site, lead me to believe that he should very well have known better.

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Originally Posted by OSKAR

So seing a guy get banned in expense to the development of the site pleases you more? I'm with Just C on that one.but if we decide to ban the dude I'd be with that to

It doesn't please me at all to see him banned. But, I am DISPLEASED by an individual member of the site receiving special treatment for offenses, that in the past, have resulted in immediate bans.

[J u s T C]

Oh and Grizz and Lock make X-Cal look like the virgin mary.

[J u s T C]

Oh and Grizz and Lock make X-Cal look like the virgin mary.