Time: The Fourth Dimension.

As most of you may know, time is widely considered to be the fourth quantifiable dimension of our universe, existing parallel to space. With this in mind, and noting the expansion of the universe in all directions, one must presume that time is then, inherently non-linear in its nature. My question then, is this: In what way, will the inherent non-linearity of time effect our perception of causality, and the state of cause and effect?

As most of you may know, time is widely considered to be the fourth quantifiable dimension of our universe, existing parallel to space. With this in mind, and noting the expansion of the universe in all directions, one must presume that time is then, inherently non-linear in its nature. My question then, is this: In what way, will the inherent non-linearity of time effect our perception of causality, and the state of cause and effect?

[Autograph]

What the fuck did he just say????

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What the fuck did he just say????

[Rain-Matrix]

So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?





Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does here

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We get a headstart is all ... 2014 for us, year 1 for them

[Rain-Matrix]

So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?





Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does here

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We get a headstart is all ... 2014 for us, year 1 for them

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Rain-Matrix

So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?


Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Rain-Matrix

So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?


Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

[Rain-Matrix]

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Imo time doesnt exist, its manmade. Cavemen didnt walk around with gold rollexs, they didnt have clocks, none of that. It came later.. all time is, is A way to tell you what part of.the day it is. And the day.only changes because.earth revolves and a different part of it gets lit up by the sun... all a year is, is.how long it takes us to.get around the sun. Time isnt real, its just a way of telling you "when"


my thoughts

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my bad for all the awkward punctuation, im on my phone

[Rain-Matrix]

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Imo time doesnt exist, its manmade. Cavemen didnt walk around with gold rollexs, they didnt have clocks, none of that. It came later.. all time is, is A way to tell you what part of.the day it is. And the day.only changes because.earth revolves and a different part of it gets lit up by the sun... all a year is, is.how long it takes us to.get around the sun. Time isnt real, its just a way of telling you "when"


my thoughts

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my bad for all the awkward punctuation, im on my phone

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Do some reading on Special, and General Relativity. The dimensionality of time is discussed in both. Time began, when space began. But, time does not move in a solitary motion. Its expansion, like that of space, is in all directions. Therefore our linear perception of time, as a chronological series of instances is not "time," it is simply the easiest way for us to understand time. Take this for example: An occurrence takes place fifty years from now. But, because time is not linear, this occurrence may then, cause an effect in our current time, or, in a time prior to our present day, etc. Also, here's an analogy to help understand this premise. Imagine a bubble, inside of a pool. As this bubble expands, it displaces the water around it, in all directions in which the bubble is expanding. The bubble here, is the universe. Time is the pool. Therefore, as the universe expands, it is displacing time around itself, causing time to move in the same directions as space. This is why particles are able to move, not only forwards, and backwards in time, but, to the left, or right, or up, or down.

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Do some reading on Special, and General Relativity. The dimensionality of time is discussed in both. Time began, when space began. But, time does not move in a solitary motion. Its expansion, like that of space, is in all directions. Therefore our linear perception of time, as a chronological series of instances is not "time," it is simply the easiest way for us to understand time. Take this for example: An occurrence takes place fifty years from now. But, because time is not linear, this occurrence may then, cause an effect in our current time, or, in a time prior to our present day, etc. Also, here's an analogy to help understand this premise. Imagine a bubble, inside of a pool. As this bubble expands, it displaces the water around it, in all directions in which the bubble is expanding. The bubble here, is the universe. Time is the pool. Therefore, as the universe expands, it is displacing time around itself, causing time to move in the same directions as space. This is why particles are able to move, not only forwards, and backwards in time, but, to the left, or right, or up, or down.

[Denton]

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Wrong, Time itself is not abstract. We did not create the thought of of time. We only created a way to measure it. Time itself is non-linear and can be stretched. Look at black holes. Black holes not only affect space, matter, gravity and light. It also stretches time. 10 minutes inside a black hole is 1000 years outside of it, roughly. I don't know the equation.

[Denton]

Originally Posted by Crysis

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Wrong, Time itself is not abstract. We did not create the thought of of time. We only created a way to measure it. Time itself is non-linear and can be stretched. Look at black holes. Black holes not only affect space, matter, gravity and light. It also stretches time. 10 minutes inside a black hole is 1000 years outside of it, roughly. I don't know the equation.

[PackNflow]

Aristotle and the the greatest philosophers discussed it, and Eisenstein Proved it. He said "Put a man next to a hot girl for a min, bet its gonna be a short min. Put him in a hot oven, bet its gonna be the longest min of his life. Thats relativity". Theres two views of time, the widely accepted one is that time is just human perception, that we needed it to exist. Because if time were to completely stop existing, would we even know? Im not too clear on the space time continuum (altough i think they call it that cuz theres a relation lol) Like for example if u go at the speed of light, the world shrinks into a pancake and the world around you ages alot faster than u do.

[PackNflow]

Aristotle and the the greatest philosophers discussed it, and Eisenstein Proved it. He said "Put a man next to a hot girl for a min, bet its gonna be a short min. Put him in a hot oven, bet its gonna be the longest min of his life. Thats relativity". Theres two views of time, the widely accepted one is that time is just human perception, that we needed it to exist. Because if time were to completely stop existing, would we even know? Im not too clear on the space time continuum (altough i think they call it that cuz theres a relation lol) Like for example if u go at the speed of light, the world shrinks into a pancake and the world around you ages alot faster than u do.

[Rain-Matrix]

Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush

[Rain-Matrix]

Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Rain-Matrix

Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush

Actually, solid point Rain. I also agree time was man-made.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Rain-Matrix

Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush

Actually, solid point Rain. I also agree time was man-made.