Staff In Question Pt.4 - Who's Trolling Who?

Right, since Punk and EtH have been banned for pissing off Muggz and Pugz I'm going to keep documenting the abuse of power. Should I be banned for doing so I would be grateful if one or more of you take my place.

Let's start with Pugz's promise not to ban EtH for trolling which he posted on the very same day EtH was banned for.... trolling.

Originally Posted by Pugz

i troll you everyday.. if youre gonna get banned itll be for a legit reason dont worry... trolling is allowed but you know the limits and if you want to exceed them then youre in bannable territory.. no personal info.. no racist attacks.. no sabotage.. how far you wanna take it is completely on you..

But let's see what GUTS's justification for this ban is...

Originally Posted by g u t s

Trolling
(Infraction points: 15 Expires: 3 months)
Blatantly posting antagonistic material just to get a reaction from other users is considered trolling.

this is something eth and punk did daily, and it's a small offense, until it happens non stop for almost a decade. we ll know eth as the biggest lb troll, so to say he didn't troll, would be a lie

But hold up, Pugz just told EtH he won't be infracted for trolling? And I assume the same applies to Punk.

Originally Posted by g u t s

Racism/Bigotry
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: 12 months)

while i hve noticed some semi racist comments from eth, the real issue here is bigotry. i define this as defamation of staff. all of his posts in the forums, trying to force mod against mod, were lies and manipulation. he admitted to it, said he was bored half the time. punk and eth both lied and put false information forward to push an agenda.

Even Guts admits this infraction isn't for racism or bigotry. He's just expanded the definition to include defamation of staff. That's right, you're no longer allowed to criticise or beef with staff members.

Originally Posted by g u t s

Repeat Offender
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: Never)

this pattern of behavior has existed for as long as these two have been around. i am disappointed that both eth and punk have chosen to do everything they can to ruin the site. all of these rules they broke over and over.

So to conclude they broke the rule against trolling which Pugz promised not to ban them for and they also broke the rule that Guts just made up repeatedly so their infractions are increased to justify a permaban. Isn't that just convenient.

Well, as fucked up as a decision as it might be it's democratic at least right? I mean Muggz told us it was here;



But hold on, who voted on this poll? Certainly not Jimmy.



How about other staff members current and former. How do they feel? Well so far in the shoutbox this is the list of staff members that have voiced concern at the ban.

OSKAR
Illokwent
Indianapolis Jones
Aggo*
Myself

*Aggo has actually gone to the lengths of deleting his account.

I suggest that if EtH and Punk aren't unbanned within 24 hours we should follow Aggo's lead. This isn't Lets Beef if you're not allowed to actually beef.

Right, since Punk and EtH have been banned for pissing off Muggz and Pugz I'm going to keep documenting the abuse of power. Should I be banned for doing so I would be grateful if one or more of you take my place.

Let's start with Pugz's promise not to ban EtH for trolling which he posted on the very same day EtH was banned for.... trolling.

Originally Posted by Pugz

i troll you everyday.. if youre gonna get banned itll be for a legit reason dont worry... trolling is allowed but you know the limits and if you want to exceed them then youre in bannable territory.. no personal info.. no racist attacks.. no sabotage.. how far you wanna take it is completely on you..

But let's see what GUTS's justification for this ban is...

Originally Posted by g u t s

Trolling
(Infraction points: 15 Expires: 3 months)
Blatantly posting antagonistic material just to get a reaction from other users is considered trolling.

this is something eth and punk did daily, and it's a small offense, until it happens non stop for almost a decade. we ll know eth as the biggest lb troll, so to say he didn't troll, would be a lie

But hold up, Pugz just told EtH he won't be infracted for trolling? And I assume the same applies to Punk.

Originally Posted by g u t s

Racism/Bigotry
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: 12 months)

while i hve noticed some semi racist comments from eth, the real issue here is bigotry. i define this as defamation of staff. all of his posts in the forums, trying to force mod against mod, were lies and manipulation. he admitted to it, said he was bored half the time. punk and eth both lied and put false information forward to push an agenda.

Even Guts admits this infraction isn't for racism or bigotry. He's just expanded the definition to include defamation of staff. That's right, you're no longer allowed to criticise or beef with staff members.

Originally Posted by g u t s

Repeat Offender
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: Never)

this pattern of behavior has existed for as long as these two have been around. i am disappointed that both eth and punk have chosen to do everything they can to ruin the site. all of these rules they broke over and over.

So to conclude they broke the rule against trolling which Pugz promised not to ban them for and they also broke the rule that Guts just made up repeatedly so their infractions are increased to justify a permaban. Isn't that just convenient.

Well, as fucked up as a decision as it might be it's democratic at least right? I mean Muggz told us it was here;



But hold on, who voted on this poll? Certainly not Jimmy.



How about other staff members current and former. How do they feel? Well so far in the shoutbox this is the list of staff members that have voiced concern at the ban.

OSKAR
Illokwent
Indianapolis Jones
Aggo*
Myself

*Aggo has actually gone to the lengths of deleting his account.

I suggest that if EtH and Punk aren't unbanned within 24 hours we should follow Aggo's lead. This isn't Lets Beef if you're not allowed to actually beef.

[J u s T C]

I appreciate it but this isn't even evidence. This is just a list of infractions topped off with a vauge paragraph of anecdotal "Evidence" From Guts.

This is what i mean. Why post this you're just adding fule to the fire with something that was supposed to put out this dumpster fire.


Your busy guts I appreciate that. Then wait.


Which reminds me you guys told me in chat that you discussed it in the staff forums with evidence. Copy n paste the post with said evidence, a 1 second job.

[J u s T C]

I appreciate it but this isn't even evidence. This is just a list of infractions topped off with a vauge paragraph of anecdotal "Evidence" From Guts.

This is what i mean. Why post this you're just adding fule to the fire with something that was supposed to put out this dumpster fire.


Your busy guts I appreciate that. Then wait.


Which reminds me you guys told me in chat that you discussed it in the staff forums with evidence. Copy n paste the post with said evidence, a 1 second job.

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I appreciate it but this isn't even evidence. This is just a list of infractions topped off with a vauge paragraph of anecdotal "Evidence" From Guts.

This is what i mean. Why post this you're just adding fule to the fire with something that was supposed to put out this dumpster fire.


Your busy guts I appreciate that. Then wait.


Which reminds me you guys told me in chat that you discussed it in the staff forums with evidence. Copy n paste the post with said evidence, a 1 second job.

Originally Posted by OSKAR

well I wouldn't demand their unbanning within a 24 hr window.

I'd like to see the evidence first before stating that I am 100% against it. However, based on what I currently know, I am against it

I've spoken to EtH and Guts in private. You're both asking for evidence that doesn't exist, that's why it hasn't materialised. I can adjust the time frame if you like though @OSKAR what would you recommend as being appropriate?

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I appreciate it but this isn't even evidence. This is just a list of infractions topped off with a vauge paragraph of anecdotal "Evidence" From Guts.

This is what i mean. Why post this you're just adding fule to the fire with something that was supposed to put out this dumpster fire.


Your busy guts I appreciate that. Then wait.


Which reminds me you guys told me in chat that you discussed it in the staff forums with evidence. Copy n paste the post with said evidence, a 1 second job.

Originally Posted by OSKAR

well I wouldn't demand their unbanning within a 24 hr window.

I'd like to see the evidence first before stating that I am 100% against it. However, based on what I currently know, I am against it

I've spoken to EtH and Guts in private. You're both asking for evidence that doesn't exist, that's why it hasn't materialised. I can adjust the time frame if you like though @OSKAR what would you recommend as being appropriate?

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I've spoken to EtH and Guts in private. You're both asking for evidence that doesn't exist, that's why it hasn't materialised. I can adjust the time frame if you like though @OSKAR what would you recommend as being appropriate?

I'm sceptical myself but I said I'd wait so I guess gotta wait but even then the whole offensive language based infraction dont sit well with me. It better be some strong evidence, if like you say ghere even is any.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I've spoken to EtH and Guts in private. You're both asking for evidence that doesn't exist, that's why it hasn't materialised. I can adjust the time frame if you like though @OSKAR what would you recommend as being appropriate?

I'm sceptical myself but I said I'd wait so I guess gotta wait but even then the whole offensive language based infraction dont sit well with me. It better be some strong evidence, if like you say ghere even is any.

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I'm sceptical myself but I said I'd wait so I guess gotta wait but even then the whole offensive language based infraction dont sit well with me. It better be some strong evidence, if like you say ghere even is any.

I have a message from an alternate realm....

"Tell Just to get IM the little wank"

Turn your IM on and you shall be visited by a fat, ginger little Scot.

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I'm sceptical myself but I said I'd wait so I guess gotta wait but even then the whole offensive language based infraction dont sit well with me. It better be some strong evidence, if like you say ghere even is any.

I have a message from an alternate realm....

"Tell Just to get IM the little wank"

Turn your IM on and you shall be visited by a fat, ginger little Scot.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I have a message from an alternate realm....

"Tell Just to get IM the little wank"

Turn your IM on and you shall be visited by a fat, ginger little Scot.

Roger that.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I have a message from an alternate realm....

"Tell Just to get IM the little wank"

Turn your IM on and you shall be visited by a fat, ginger little Scot.

Roger that.

[OSKAR]

well I wouldn't demand their unbanning within a 24 hr window.

I'd like to see the evidence first before stating that I am 100% against it. However, based on what I currently know, I am against it

[OSKAR]

well I wouldn't demand their unbanning within a 24 hr window.

I'd like to see the evidence first before stating that I am 100% against it. However, based on what I currently know, I am against it

Ahhh fuck it. I'm done. Pugz is a gigantic moron and X has the communication skills of a brick wall so it's impossible to know if he's equally retarded or just the G.O.A.T of social ineptitude. Thanks for the memories.

Ahhh fuck it. I'm done. Pugz is a gigantic moron and X has the communication skills of a brick wall so it's impossible to know if he's equally retarded or just the G.O.A.T of social ineptitude. Thanks for the memories.

[Denton]

Shit is not justified at all IDC what fucking excuse staff presents

[Denton]

Shit is not justified at all IDC what fucking excuse staff presents

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I suggest that if EtH and Punk aren't unbanned within 24 hours we should follow Aggo's lead. This isn't Lets Beef if you're not allowed to actually beef.

You're really encouraging people to delete their accounts, and you think that's helping?

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I suggest that if EtH and Punk aren't unbanned within 24 hours we should follow Aggo's lead. This isn't Lets Beef if you're not allowed to actually beef.

You're really encouraging people to delete their accounts, and you think that's helping?