What's the pont in throwing punches if they're

[J u s T C]

Not directed at your opponent?

I get the vibe on here that no matter what, people will/would vote for the guy "attempting" to throw punches against the guy roasting the fuck out of his opponent creatively using zero punches.

Whats the point if the punches aren't in direct reference to the opponent and or they are just formulaic, cliche'd said a million times before 1 size fits all punches.

Where's the creativity in that.

This idea that you have to be seen to be at least throwing punchlines, no matter how poor they are is contradictory to what the site is about. Creative writing.


You're supposed to be battling your opponent, not the voters.

But you can bet your bottom dolla that the guy clowning his opponent creatively while showing imagination and wit without a punch in sight will be fighting a losing battle against a corny run of the mill INDIRECT puncher before the votes even come rolling in.

So now what you have is a bunch of clones scared to step from the norm because losses.

You don't think that's wrong?

[J u s T C]

Not directed at your opponent?

I get the vibe on here that no matter what, people will/would vote for the guy "attempting" to throw punches against the guy roasting the fuck out of his opponent creatively using zero punches.

Whats the point if the punches aren't in direct reference to the opponent and or they are just formulaic, cliche'd said a million times before 1 size fits all punches.

Where's the creativity in that.

This idea that you have to be seen to be at least throwing punchlines, no matter how poor they are is contradictory to what the site is about. Creative writing.


You're supposed to be battling your opponent, not the voters.

But you can bet your bottom dolla that the guy clowning his opponent creatively while showing imagination and wit without a punch in sight will be fighting a losing battle against a corny run of the mill INDIRECT puncher before the votes even come rolling in.

So now what you have is a bunch of clones scared to step from the norm because losses.

You don't think that's wrong?

[Obey]

How do you expect so many personal punches when this is an online rap battle site? We know probably 2% of all of these people's lives besides their antics on here, which in-fact are all abused during battles. So using creative structures to come at a person, even if it's almost indirect but it's still coming at a person in general (which is your opponent in that case), is a more impressive way of getting at someone. If someone's using fresh, personal shit and they can mix it w/ creativeness, of course that's better. Not always the case though because we don't know each other or have any dirt.

[Obey]

How do you expect so many personal punches when this is an online rap battle site? We know probably 2% of all of these people's lives besides their antics on here, which in-fact are all abused during battles. So using creative structures to come at a person, even if it's almost indirect but it's still coming at a person in general (which is your opponent in that case), is a more impressive way of getting at someone. If someone's using fresh, personal shit and they can mix it w/ creativeness, of course that's better. Not always the case though because we don't know each other or have any dirt.

[J u s T C]

It could be something as little as their user name, place of origin, avatar, something they said in their verse for you to hone in on to pick apart to the fullest by using your own imagination and creativity in order to make him look stupid (No punch in sight)

And poorly worded generic punch guy will win or atleast run it way closer than it ever should of been... Because 1 guy threw punches.

I'm not talking about the upper echelons of writers on this site clashing. I'm talking about sup par played poorly worded punch guy (up to average at best) beating no punch guy who does what he does a damn sight more cleanly and creatively guy because "1 threw punches"

And you're telling me if generic punch guy can pull an irrelevant indirect make believe punch out of his ass that the other guy needs personal information to attack his opponents character?

Imagination.

[J u s T C]

It could be something as little as their user name, place of origin, avatar, something they said in their verse for you to hone in on to pick apart to the fullest by using your own imagination and creativity in order to make him look stupid (No punch in sight)

And poorly worded generic punch guy will win or atleast run it way closer than it ever should of been... Because 1 guy threw punches.

I'm not talking about the upper echelons of writers on this site clashing. I'm talking about sup par played poorly worded punch guy (up to average at best) beating no punch guy who does what he does a damn sight more cleanly and creatively guy because "1 threw punches"

And you're telling me if generic punch guy can pull an irrelevant indirect make believe punch out of his ass that the other guy needs personal information to attack his opponents character?

Imagination.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

It could be something as little as their user name, place of origin, avatar, something they said in their verse for you to hone in on to pick apart to the fullest by using your own imagination and creativity in order to make him look stupid (No punch in sight)

And poorly worded generic punch guy will win or atleast run it way closer than it ever should of been... Because 1 guy threw punches.

I'm not talking about the upper echelons of writers on this site clashing. I'm talking about sup par played poorly worded punch guy (up to average at best) beating no punch guy who does what he does a damn sight more cleanly and creatively guy because "1 threw punches"

And you're telling me if generic punch guy can pull an irrelevant indirect make believe punch out of his ass that the other guy needs personal information to attack his opponents character?

Imagination.

Like I said, using their avatar, location, etc.. has all been done before most likely. Making up a creative concept like say.. ''Weeding him out for blowing smoke'' as a shitty example, ''him'' could be anyone but in that battle it's you or the person you're battling. I know it seems silly, but you got to think of the lack of knowledge of everyone we have. And I completely agree with your punch reference, I think creativity trumps a whack punch.. ''One had more punches'' is my biggest pet peeve for the most part. That's basically saying ''Quantity>Quality'' which is ridiculous.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

It could be something as little as their user name, place of origin, avatar, something they said in their verse for you to hone in on to pick apart to the fullest by using your own imagination and creativity in order to make him look stupid (No punch in sight)

And poorly worded generic punch guy will win or atleast run it way closer than it ever should of been... Because 1 guy threw punches.

I'm not talking about the upper echelons of writers on this site clashing. I'm talking about sup par played poorly worded punch guy (up to average at best) beating no punch guy who does what he does a damn sight more cleanly and creatively guy because "1 threw punches"

And you're telling me if generic punch guy can pull an irrelevant indirect make believe punch out of his ass that the other guy needs personal information to attack his opponents character?

Imagination.

Like I said, using their avatar, location, etc.. has all been done before most likely. Making up a creative concept like say.. ''Weeding him out for blowing smoke'' as a shitty example, ''him'' could be anyone but in that battle it's you or the person you're battling. I know it seems silly, but you got to think of the lack of knowledge of everyone we have. And I completely agree with your punch reference, I think creativity trumps a whack punch.. ''One had more punches'' is my biggest pet peeve for the most part. That's basically saying ''Quantity>Quality'' which is ridiculous.

[GRizzEAT]

better question.. whats tha point of throwin punches if no-one is voting on them?

[GRizzEAT]

better question.. whats tha point of throwin punches if no-one is voting on them?

[Saxx]

Originally Posted by GRizzEAT

better question.. whats tha point of throwin punches if no-one is voting on them?

Yup..I've wasted decent bars against no ones for no gain. Only voters are the new guys. FVC is redundant which is stupid. How im not in it is ridiculous.

[Saxx]

Originally Posted by GRizzEAT

better question.. whats tha point of throwin punches if no-one is voting on them?

Yup..I've wasted decent bars against no ones for no gain. Only voters are the new guys. FVC is redundant which is stupid. How im not in it is ridiculous.

[ILLoKWENT]

You only can use a persons obvious profile so many times before it becomes played.. after the nth battle of someone talkin shit bout john does avatar which was never changed will grow redundant.. only idiots say any form of nameflipping is whack or played ..if you can get a creative word combination out of someones name ,then thats 'getting personal in itself... and its the foundation to directness to your opponent... other than that .noone wants to look thru a comment to find detailed shit to try to bleed dry every minute personal you can think of... the best approach is to mix easy to grasp personals mixed in with random punches..because randoms are infinite.personals arent

[ILLoKWENT]

You only can use a persons obvious profile so many times before it becomes played.. after the nth battle of someone talkin shit bout john does avatar which was never changed will grow redundant.. only idiots say any form of nameflipping is whack or played ..if you can get a creative word combination out of someones name ,then thats 'getting personal in itself... and its the foundation to directness to your opponent... other than that .noone wants to look thru a comment to find detailed shit to try to bleed dry every minute personal you can think of... the best approach is to mix easy to grasp personals mixed in with random punches..because randoms are infinite.personals arent

[Obey]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

You only can use a persons obvious profile so many times before it becomes played.. after the nth battle of someone talkin shit bout john does avatar which was never changed will grow redundant.. only idiots say any form of nameflipping is whack or played ..if you can get a creative word combination out of someones name ,then thats 'getting personal in itself... and its the foundation to directness to your opponent... other than that .noone wants to look thru a comment to find detailed shit to try to bleed dry every minute personal you can think of... the best approach is to mix easy to grasp personals mixed in with random punches..because randoms are infinite.personals arent

Beautifully said

[Obey]

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT

You only can use a persons obvious profile so many times before it becomes played.. after the nth battle of someone talkin shit bout john does avatar which was never changed will grow redundant.. only idiots say any form of nameflipping is whack or played ..if you can get a creative word combination out of someones name ,then thats 'getting personal in itself... and its the foundation to directness to your opponent... other than that .noone wants to look thru a comment to find detailed shit to try to bleed dry every minute personal you can think of... the best approach is to mix easy to grasp personals mixed in with random punches..because randoms are infinite.personals arent

Beautifully said

[J u s T C]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaand

The point gets missed entirely.

Vintage L.B.

[J u s T C]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaand

The point gets missed entirely.

Vintage L.B.

I think what corb is trying to say is....

You bitches are more into shit that doesn't Land GREATLY yet it's "creative" or whatever but pretty much give small credit to actual insults and shit that attacks wayy more and has meaning BUT lack all of the elements such as multies, punchlines, etc..... But they Shit would make more sense than the other verse with all the not so direct punches. People just take in criteria & feedback the wrong way and think like "hmmmm.. how will I impress the voters with this verse?... oo oo I'll make a punch about his dead mother that never died but they'll believe she did because my verse said so."

"or should I up my multies by adding this here filler pretending it works with the bar because it has some similarity."

For example... Look how Murda Mook shined over Loaded Lux.... Lux brung punches, wordplay, schemes, all this other shit that you fools blossom over and still lost to A nigga who was simplistic yet strong.

If that was a LB battle, Lux would've 110-0'd Mook.

I think what corb is trying to say is....

You bitches are more into shit that doesn't Land GREATLY yet it's "creative" or whatever but pretty much give small credit to actual insults and shit that attacks wayy more and has meaning BUT lack all of the elements such as multies, punchlines, etc..... But they Shit would make more sense than the other verse with all the not so direct punches. People just take in criteria & feedback the wrong way and think like "hmmmm.. how will I impress the voters with this verse?... oo oo I'll make a punch about his dead mother that never died but they'll believe she did because my verse said so."

"or should I up my multies by adding this here filler pretending it works with the bar because it has some similarity."

For example... Look how Murda Mook shined over Loaded Lux.... Lux brung punches, wordplay, schemes, all this other shit that you fools blossom over and still lost to A nigga who was simplistic yet strong.

If that was a LB battle, Lux would've 110-0'd Mook.