FVC Membership Contest Round 2 (Text)

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@TalkSick vs @~SHINIGAMI~
TalkSick Voted: Olde Concepts: 6 / BadHabitz: 3
~SHINIGAMI~ Voted: Olde Concepts: 6 / BadHabitz: 4
You both hit on a lot of the same things, but I felt TalkSick gave the more focused and and robust expo giving advice on improvement and even offering his inbox in case the battlers needed help. Both good votes, but I have to go with TalkSick on this one.

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@TalkSick vs @~SHINIGAMI~
TalkSick Voted: Olde Concepts: 6 / BadHabitz: 3
~SHINIGAMI~ Voted: Olde Concepts: 6 / BadHabitz: 4
You both hit on a lot of the same things, but I felt TalkSick gave the more focused and and robust expo giving advice on improvement and even offering his inbox in case the battlers needed help. Both good votes, but I have to go with TalkSick on this one.

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VOTED@TalkSick vs @~SHINIGAMI~VOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443062)
TalkSick: BadHabitz: 3 / ***Olde Concepts: 6
~SHINIGAMI~: BadHabitz: 4 / Olde Concepts: 6
Expo: Both did well in their expos. I would have liked something a little less vague when it came around to BadHabitz. Remember, newer people probably need the most help and criticism. Just saying "You just need more help, go research" kind of dropped the ball. In general, TalkSick gave a slightly more specific breakdown of Olde's issues.
Pick: TalkSick
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VOTED@ILLoKWENT™ vs @Skilligan™VOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443019)
Skilligan™: ***-Z0NE-: 5 / tkarn6420: 2
ILLoKWENT™: ***-Z0NE-: 5 / tkarn6420: 3
Expo: Skilligan, I felt your expo lacked specific educational help that could be taken away and used by tcarn. You list obvious generalities, but if the kids new, he may not even know half of those terms. By pointing out specific spots in his verse and describing how to change them with examples, he may be more inclined to step up his game. Overall your expo was nice, I'm just nitpicking and trying to encourage certain practices. By doing so, perhaps we can stop directing people elsewhere and just help them ourselves.
Illokwent, much more specific when helping out basic verses. I felt you did well in your expo in general for both battlers.
Scoring was fair by both, so not much of a factor.
Pick Illokwent
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VOTED@Erupt vs @DaveVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443030)
Dave: ***Olde Concepts: 5 / Oversoul: 1
Erupt: ***Olde Concepts: 4 / Oversoul: 3
Expo: While I felt both verses addressed the specific issues from each battler, I felt Erupt's expo was more concise and easier to read. I also felt that Erupt's scoring was more appropriate for that battle. Dave had a nice expo, but was too negatively toned in spots and the third section really wasn't needed at all.
Pick Erupt
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VOTED@BP Pride vs @StudentVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443031)
BP Pride: 956-D-town chino: 3 / ***Blacc Mamba: 5
Student: 956-D-town chino: 3 / Blacc Mamba: 5
Expo: BP Pride didn't address either battler directly so any issues he spoke about, neither of the battlers would know who he was talking to. If you had just addressed each battler, your whole expo, it would have been much stronger, but unfortunately, it did little for either. In the future, do this on any battle. The whole vague, cloaked in mystery battle expo just doesn't work. Student's Expo was much more informative, specific and directed at each person so they knew what he was saying about them. Overall, props to you both, but Student clearly stood out in this one.
Pick: Student
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VOTED@Fiji Osa vs @UnyqeVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442996)
Fiji Osa: PRESSURE519: 3 / ***Xplissit: 6
Unyqe: PRESSURE519: 2 /*** Xplissit: 5
Expo: Unyqe, your expo was fairly vague and basic. Also, directing people to other help is a cop out that fails in 2 parts: YOU aren't helping, you're directing. LINKS don't work in expos, so when they copy n paste the link into a browser, they have to bother going through the link re-attaching it so it will work. Most people won't take that much effort so they lose out on your expertise, as well as that of where you directed them.
Fiji Osa: Nore specific and informative in your expo. I didn't like the "Look at this link" stuff for the same reasons I bashed Unyqe for. I also think your expo should focus only on the verse at hand and not bring up other battles. I got what you were getting at, but from an outside appearance like if I was some new kid and I see that, it may feel shady or bias, even if it isn't.
Overall I believe Fiji Osa produced more to fulfil what I was looking for in a expo, but both still lacked in points.
Pick: Fiji Osa

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VOTED@TalkSick vs @~SHINIGAMI~VOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443062)
TalkSick: BadHabitz: 3 / ***Olde Concepts: 6
~SHINIGAMI~: BadHabitz: 4 / Olde Concepts: 6
Expo: Both did well in their expos. I would have liked something a little less vague when it came around to BadHabitz. Remember, newer people probably need the most help and criticism. Just saying "You just need more help, go research" kind of dropped the ball. In general, TalkSick gave a slightly more specific breakdown of Olde's issues.
Pick: TalkSick
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VOTED@ILLoKWENT™ vs @Skilligan™VOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443019)
Skilligan™: ***-Z0NE-: 5 / tkarn6420: 2
ILLoKWENT™: ***-Z0NE-: 5 / tkarn6420: 3
Expo: Skilligan, I felt your expo lacked specific educational help that could be taken away and used by tcarn. You list obvious generalities, but if the kids new, he may not even know half of those terms. By pointing out specific spots in his verse and describing how to change them with examples, he may be more inclined to step up his game. Overall your expo was nice, I'm just nitpicking and trying to encourage certain practices. By doing so, perhaps we can stop directing people elsewhere and just help them ourselves.
Illokwent, much more specific when helping out basic verses. I felt you did well in your expo in general for both battlers.
Scoring was fair by both, so not much of a factor.
Pick Illokwent
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VOTED@Erupt vs @DaveVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443030)
Dave: ***Olde Concepts: 5 / Oversoul: 1
Erupt: ***Olde Concepts: 4 / Oversoul: 3
Expo: While I felt both verses addressed the specific issues from each battler, I felt Erupt's expo was more concise and easier to read. I also felt that Erupt's scoring was more appropriate for that battle. Dave had a nice expo, but was too negatively toned in spots and the third section really wasn't needed at all.
Pick Erupt
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VOTED@BP Pride vs @StudentVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443031)
BP Pride: 956-D-town chino: 3 / ***Blacc Mamba: 5
Student: 956-D-town chino: 3 / Blacc Mamba: 5
Expo: BP Pride didn't address either battler directly so any issues he spoke about, neither of the battlers would know who he was talking to. If you had just addressed each battler, your whole expo, it would have been much stronger, but unfortunately, it did little for either. In the future, do this on any battle. The whole vague, cloaked in mystery battle expo just doesn't work. Student's Expo was much more informative, specific and directed at each person so they knew what he was saying about them. Overall, props to you both, but Student clearly stood out in this one.
Pick: Student
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VOTED@Fiji Osa vs @UnyqeVOTED
(http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442996)
Fiji Osa: PRESSURE519: 3 / ***Xplissit: 6
Unyqe: PRESSURE519: 2 /*** Xplissit: 5
Expo: Unyqe, your expo was fairly vague and basic. Also, directing people to other help is a cop out that fails in 2 parts: YOU aren't helping, you're directing. LINKS don't work in expos, so when they copy n paste the link into a browser, they have to bother going through the link re-attaching it so it will work. Most people won't take that much effort so they lose out on your expertise, as well as that of where you directed them.
Fiji Osa: Nore specific and informative in your expo. I didn't like the "Look at this link" stuff for the same reasons I bashed Unyqe for. I also think your expo should focus only on the verse at hand and not bring up other battles. I got what you were getting at, but from an outside appearance like if I was some new kid and I see that, it may feel shady or bias, even if it isn't.
Overall I believe Fiji Osa produced more to fulfil what I was looking for in a expo, but both still lacked in points.
Pick: Fiji Osa

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@Teek were the battles deleted?

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@Teek were the battles deleted?

[Teek]

Originally Posted by BP Pride

@Teek were the battles deleted?

No, use the links on the first page, the battles are still there, I'll re-edit my post. I copied and pasted straight off the page rather than from a quoted text and it messed the links.

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Originally Posted by BP Pride

@Teek were the battles deleted?

No, use the links on the first page, the battles are still there, I'll re-edit my post. I copied and pasted straight off the page rather than from a quoted text and it messed the links.

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Thanks for the feedback @Teek!

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VOTED@ILLoKWENT™ vs @Skilligan™
Skilligan™ Voted: tkarn6420: 2 / -Z0NE-: 5
ILLoKWENT™ Voted: tkarn6420: 3 / -Z0NE-: 5
Both of your expos were on point. The main difference is ILLoKWENT went into a lot more detail which I felt might have been more helpful to the battlers, particularly what he said about the basics of 2 line construction to tkarn6420. Imo, Skilligan had the better rating though. I don't think tkarn6420's verse deserved a 3. You both did a good job, but for this voting match, I'll have to go with ILLoKWENT.

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@Erupt vs @Dave
Dave Voted: Oversoul: 1 / Olde Concepts: 5
Erupt Voted: Oversoul: 3 / Olde Concepts: 4
You both gave great advice to the battlers and gave them pertinent pointers. The main difference to me was in tone. I felt the way Dave approached it could be considered as hate (I'm not saying I think it is). Dave had some humour in there, and I liked that, but I can also see how the people might take offence to it and miss some of the other points. Erupt's expo was more tempered, and he touched on a lot of the same points as Dave, but I also felt the way he laid it across might have been more helpful to the battlers. I feel like when pointing to what's bad in someone's verse, its better to use their own lines as example to show why it was bad---but it also works the same way when you're trying to show someone how to improve...I liked that Erupt used Oversoul's own line about Watson/Sherlock to point him in the right direction. Vote: Erupt.

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@BP Pride vs @Student
BP Pride Voted: Blacc Mamba: 5 / 956-D-town chino: 3
Student Voted: Blacc Mamba: 5 / 956-D-town chino: 3
You both gave good expos, but I felt Student was a lot more thorough and direct. BP Pride, you referred to both battlers as "one" while you were giving them advice and pointers. It was hard to distinguish which one you were referring to at times. I preferred the way you voted in the first round with a section directed specifically at each battler because it makes your expo more impactful and understandable. Vote: Student.

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@Fiji Osa vs @Unyqe
Unyqe Voted: PRESSURE519: 2 / Xplissit: 5
Fiji Osa Voted: PRESSURE519: 3 / Xplissit: 6
Both gave nice expos and decent advice, but I felt Fiji Osa went into more detail in his. You both pointed out that PRESSURE should cap his rhymes, but Fiji gave more of a reasoning while Unyqe said "thats how we do it here man." You both pointed out things that were wrong with Xplissit's verse but I felt Fiji went a little further with his suggestions. Vote: Fiji Osa

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Thanks for the feedback @Teek!

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VOTED@ILLoKWENT™ vs @Skilligan™
Skilligan™ Voted: tkarn6420: 2 / -Z0NE-: 5
ILLoKWENT™ Voted: tkarn6420: 3 / -Z0NE-: 5
Both of your expos were on point. The main difference is ILLoKWENT went into a lot more detail which I felt might have been more helpful to the battlers, particularly what he said about the basics of 2 line construction to tkarn6420. Imo, Skilligan had the better rating though. I don't think tkarn6420's verse deserved a 3. You both did a good job, but for this voting match, I'll have to go with ILLoKWENT.

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@Erupt vs @Dave
Dave Voted: Oversoul: 1 / Olde Concepts: 5
Erupt Voted: Oversoul: 3 / Olde Concepts: 4
You both gave great advice to the battlers and gave them pertinent pointers. The main difference to me was in tone. I felt the way Dave approached it could be considered as hate (I'm not saying I think it is). Dave had some humour in there, and I liked that, but I can also see how the people might take offence to it and miss some of the other points. Erupt's expo was more tempered, and he touched on a lot of the same points as Dave, but I also felt the way he laid it across might have been more helpful to the battlers. I feel like when pointing to what's bad in someone's verse, its better to use their own lines as example to show why it was bad---but it also works the same way when you're trying to show someone how to improve...I liked that Erupt used Oversoul's own line about Watson/Sherlock to point him in the right direction. Vote: Erupt.

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@BP Pride vs @Student
BP Pride Voted: Blacc Mamba: 5 / 956-D-town chino: 3
Student Voted: Blacc Mamba: 5 / 956-D-town chino: 3
You both gave good expos, but I felt Student was a lot more thorough and direct. BP Pride, you referred to both battlers as "one" while you were giving them advice and pointers. It was hard to distinguish which one you were referring to at times. I preferred the way you voted in the first round with a section directed specifically at each battler because it makes your expo more impactful and understandable. Vote: Student.

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@Fiji Osa vs @Unyqe
Unyqe Voted: PRESSURE519: 2 / Xplissit: 5
Fiji Osa Voted: PRESSURE519: 3 / Xplissit: 6
Both gave nice expos and decent advice, but I felt Fiji Osa went into more detail in his. You both pointed out that PRESSURE should cap his rhymes, but Fiji gave more of a reasoning while Unyqe said "thats how we do it here man." You both pointed out things that were wrong with Xplissit's verse but I felt Fiji went a little further with his suggestions. Vote: Fiji Osa

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Sorry for the rushed breakdown here, just know its 100.

Talk Vs Shin: Gotta say both pretty much hit the nail on the head in this one. Rates were accurate, i'd honestly call this a draw with Talk gettin the slight W due to a clearer explanation.

Illo Vs Skill: Again bout had the rates about right, Illo had the better expo and critques.

Dave Vs Erupt: Daves permabanned & Erupt had the better vote anyways.

Pride Vs Student: Again the rates were fairly good, Stu went into his expo a lil better and gets this for me.

Fiji Vs Unque: Both had the rate about right, but i saw Fiji saying this - PRESSED YOU'RE LAZY & WHACK The Shit You 'Put On Is More Mismatched' That Being DRESSED IN NAVY AND BLACK - was a broken multi which its not. You cant go critquing people when your wrong. Gotta go with Unque.

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[Revan]

Sorry for the rushed breakdown here, just know its 100.

Talk Vs Shin: Gotta say both pretty much hit the nail on the head in this one. Rates were accurate, i'd honestly call this a draw with Talk gettin the slight W due to a clearer explanation.

Illo Vs Skill: Again bout had the rates about right, Illo had the better expo and critques.

Dave Vs Erupt: Daves permabanned & Erupt had the better vote anyways.

Pride Vs Student: Again the rates were fairly good, Stu went into his expo a lil better and gets this for me.

Fiji Vs Unque: Both had the rate about right, but i saw Fiji saying this - PRESSED YOU'RE LAZY & WHACK The Shit You 'Put On Is More Mismatched' That Being DRESSED IN NAVY AND BLACK - was a broken multi which its not. You cant go critquing people when your wrong. Gotta go with Unque.

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Thanks for the feedback @RULE!

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Thanks for the feedback @RULE!