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Lmao, I just read this online...
During the trial of Zimmerman, state's witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, testified that Martin had described Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker" just prior to the shooting.[303] [304]
Jeantel further testified that she thought race was an issue because Martin told her he was being followed by a white man.[305][306] Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers, though she couldn't recall if Martin would call white people crackers
So if in my culture we call people niggers, that's cool right?
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Lmao, I just read this online...
During the trial of Zimmerman, state's witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, testified that Martin had described Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker" just prior to the shooting.[303] [304]
Jeantel further testified that she thought race was an issue because Martin told her he was being followed by a white man.[305][306] Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers, though she couldn't recall if Martin would call white people crackers
So if in my culture we call people niggers, that's cool right?
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yeah but this is about racism and not color. Color does not dictate race.
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yeah but this is about racism and not color. Color does not dictate race.
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If color dictates race than tell me how Blacks in America happen to range from completely pale and light skinned to completely dark, Explain Japanese and Chinese, Dominican, Puerto rican and spanish. Irish german Russian Jewish and British?
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Lmao, I just read this online...
During the trial of Zimmerman, state's witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, testified that Martin had described Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker" just prior to the shooting.[303] [304]
Jeantel further testified that she thought race was an issue because Martin told her he was being followed by a white man.[305][306] Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers, though she couldn't recall if Martin would call white people crackers
So if in my culture we call people niggers, that's cool right?
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she didn't say it was cool or that it was ok. She just said that thats what happened. take the words for whats their not for your personal assumption
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If color dictates race than tell me how Blacks in America happen to range from completely pale and light skinned to completely dark, Explain Japanese and Chinese, Dominican, Puerto rican and spanish. Irish german Russian Jewish and British?
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Lmao, I just read this online...
During the trial of Zimmerman, state's witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, testified that Martin had described Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker" just prior to the shooting.[303] [304]
Jeantel further testified that she thought race was an issue because Martin told her he was being followed by a white man.[305][306] Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers, though she couldn't recall if Martin would call white people crackers
So if in my culture we call people niggers, that's cool right?
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she didn't say it was cool or that it was ok. She just said that thats what happened. take the words for whats their not for your personal assumption
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Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers
To me, that means she it's that it was okay.
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Jeantel stated her belief that "creepy ass cracker" was neither racial nor offensive. She testified that people in "her culture" call white people crackers
To me, that means she it's that it was okay.
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shes saying that it was a common saying and that the term wasn't often reached for just to insult someone It was adopted more as a nickname than an insult.
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atleast my interpretation of what she could have possibly meant
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shes saying that it was a common saying and that the term wasn't often reached for just to insult someone It was adopted more as a nickname than an insult.
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atleast my interpretation of what she could have possibly meant
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these debates keep comin up but eth has a point, in a really backwards town blacks are niggers as a turn of phrase so by that logic it's an acceptable term. racism these days is just blatant ignorance that very few fully understand why they hate the other side...tonight for example I met ross kemp (honestly lol) for this Northern Ireland episode and he was asking a person I knew about why this was happening and he genuinely had to ask about 10 people before he got an answer that was gonna make it onto a show due to blatant ignorance as a whole
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these debates keep comin up but eth has a point, in a really backwards town blacks are niggers as a turn of phrase so by that logic it's an acceptable term. racism these days is just blatant ignorance that very few fully understand why they hate the other side...tonight for example I met ross kemp (honestly lol) for this Northern Ireland episode and he was asking a person I knew about why this was happening and he genuinely had to ask about 10 people before he got an answer that was gonna make it onto a show due to blatant ignorance as a whole
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@NorthEast, I imagine that episode will go something a bit like this.
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@NorthEast, I imagine that episode will go something a bit like this.
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yeah i hear you
but the word cracker has no historical significance. the n word is rooted in history as a hateful word.
i would never take offence to the word cracker cus it doesnt mean a goddamn thing .. it seems funny to me that someone would attempt to insult me by calling me a cracker .. id probably think they were pathetic .
lots of black guys i know drop that word and ive never cared ... but id never drop the n word around them cus of what that word has meant through history
i suppose at the end of the day it doesnt really matter cus if your intentions are to be racist when saying "cracker" then its no different than a white guy saying the n word and meaning it in a racist way ... but either way the n word will always be more impactful than a word that truly means nothing
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Cracker is a way of calling you a racist. Cracker I believe comes from cracking the whip, as in whipping slaves. I think I've heard that before :s.
But none the less, I MIGHT be offended by it, who knows, so if a black guy called me a cracker I'd feel like their disregard for how I may react is what would be most offensive.
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yeah i hear you
but the word cracker has no historical significance. the n word is rooted in history as a hateful word.
i would never take offence to the word cracker cus it doesnt mean a goddamn thing .. it seems funny to me that someone would attempt to insult me by calling me a cracker .. id probably think they were pathetic .
lots of black guys i know drop that word and ive never cared ... but id never drop the n word around them cus of what that word has meant through history
i suppose at the end of the day it doesnt really matter cus if your intentions are to be racist when saying "cracker" then its no different than a white guy saying the n word and meaning it in a racist way ... but either way the n word will always be more impactful than a word that truly means nothing
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Cracker is a way of calling you a racist. Cracker I believe comes from cracking the whip, as in whipping slaves. I think I've heard that before :s.
But none the less, I MIGHT be offended by it, who knows, so if a black guy called me a cracker I'd feel like their disregard for how I may react is what would be most offensive.
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yeah i hear you
but the word cracker has no historical significance. the n word is rooted in history as a hateful word.
i would never take offence to the word cracker cus it doesnt mean a goddamn thing .. it seems funny to me that someone would attempt to insult me by calling me a cracker .. id probably think they were pathetic .
lots of black guys i know drop that word and ive never cared ... but id never drop the n word around them cus of what that word has meant through history
i suppose at the end of the day it doesnt really matter cus if your intentions are to be racist when saying "cracker" then its no different than a white guy saying the n word and meaning it in a racist way ... but either way the n word will always be more impactful than a word that truly means nothing
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Cracker is actually a word to offend Jewish people and it does have historical mean inning. Jewish people were put through one of the worst things in history just because they were Jewish, they don't blamed oppression for everything haha but that's another subject. Non-Jewish white people shouldn't get offended by cracker AT ALL, it would be like me calling a Mexican a nigga and them getting offended lol.
But like you said, an intention to be racist is an intention to be racist, and still wrong.
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yeah i hear you
but the word cracker has no historical significance. the n word is rooted in history as a hateful word.
i would never take offence to the word cracker cus it doesnt mean a goddamn thing .. it seems funny to me that someone would attempt to insult me by calling me a cracker .. id probably think they were pathetic .
lots of black guys i know drop that word and ive never cared ... but id never drop the n word around them cus of what that word has meant through history
i suppose at the end of the day it doesnt really matter cus if your intentions are to be racist when saying "cracker" then its no different than a white guy saying the n word and meaning it in a racist way ... but either way the n word will always be more impactful than a word that truly means nothing
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Cracker is actually a word to offend Jewish people and it does have historical mean inning. Jewish people were put through one of the worst things in history just because they were Jewish, they don't blamed oppression for everything haha but that's another subject. Non-Jewish white people shouldn't get offended by cracker AT ALL, it would be like me calling a Mexican a nigga and them getting offended lol.
But like you said, an intention to be racist is an intention to be racist, and still wrong.
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The "Whole Story" is out. He saw a young black male as "suspicious", followed him, then when he was confronted he murdered him. It's not like Trayvon was the only person walking around the neighborhood. The ONLY reason he was "suspicious" is because he was AFRICAN. PERIOD. This case is VERY VERY dangerous and I hope my people realize the underline tone of this situation. Acquitting Zimmerman puts the message out that EVERY AFRICAN is "suspicious" and people have the right to follow and harass us. And in the event that we DO "STAND OUR GROUND" we can be MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD for it. Smh..
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The "Whole Story" is out. He saw a young black male as "suspicious", followed him, then when he was confronted he murdered him. It's not like Trayvon was the only person walking around the neighborhood. The ONLY reason he was "suspicious" is because he was AFRICAN. PERIOD. This case is VERY VERY dangerous and I hope my people realize the underline tone of this situation. Acquitting Zimmerman puts the message out that EVERY AFRICAN is "suspicious" and people have the right to follow and harass us. And in the event that we DO "STAND OUR GROUND" we can be MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD for it. Smh..
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