Political Correctness

[Way Lyve]

Bottom line, point blank, period.. If the PC police, on this thread and in rl had their way hip hop would be outlawed and rappers would be imprisoned. Rap is about as anti PC as you can get. And not too many years ago, many of the same leftist leaders and *right wing free speech advocates* you call revolutionaries now were trying to ban hiphop. Guess we forget our history and how quickly the gun can be flipped onto us. *edit to be more inclusive*

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In short, stop being a cunt.

I agree with most of what you said. But I feel you're confusing PC with the left / right dichotomy that's currently dividing our political system. Pc is not a left or a right wing concept. But rather a tactic employed to further divide the country. Republicans basically want freedom from government and democrats want freedom given by government.

[Way Lyve]

Bottom line, point blank, period.. If the PC police, on this thread and in rl had their way hip hop would be outlawed and rappers would be imprisoned. Rap is about as anti PC as you can get. And not too many years ago, many of the same leftist leaders and *right wing free speech advocates* you call revolutionaries now were trying to ban hiphop. Guess we forget our history and how quickly the gun can be flipped onto us. *edit to be more inclusive*

---------- Post added at 08:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 AM ----------

In short, stop being a cunt.

I agree with most of what you said. But I feel you're confusing PC with the left / right dichotomy that's currently dividing our political system. Pc is not a left or a right wing concept. But rather a tactic employed to further divide the country. Republicans basically want freedom from government and democrats want freedom given by government.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Bottom line, point blank, period.. If the PC police, on this thread and in rl had their way hip hop would be outlawed and rappers would be imprisoned.

Yeah, all of us lefties are hanging out on this site and rapping because we hate Hip Hop. It's an inside operation.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Bottom line, point blank, period.. If the PC police, on this thread and in rl had their way hip hop would be outlawed and rappers would be imprisoned.

Yeah, all of us lefties are hanging out on this site and rapping because we hate Hip Hop. It's an inside operation.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah, all of us lefties are hanging out on this site and rapping because we hate Hip Hop. It's an inside operation.

Never said you were intelligent. But yes, essentially, you're asking to ban hiphop 👏

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah, all of us lefties are hanging out on this site and rapping because we hate Hip Hop. It's an inside operation.

Never said you were intelligent. But yes, essentially, you're asking to ban hiphop 👏

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Never said you were intelligent. But yes, essentially, you're asking to ban hiphop 👏

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Never said you were intelligent. But yes, essentially, you're asking to ban hiphop 👏

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

Never said you hated hiphop. Nice try. And if any of them are asking for restrictions to free speech they're looking at a hiphop ban themselves. Right now you're picking and choosing what pc is to you and saying ban what you want. But obviously, rap, which has been called misogynistic, racist, homophobic and sexist will be the first to go.

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Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

You're honestly on the verge of trolling.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

Never said you hated hiphop. Nice try. And if any of them are asking for restrictions to free speech they're looking at a hiphop ban themselves. Right now you're picking and choosing what pc is to you and saying ban what you want. But obviously, rap, which has been called misogynistic, racist, homophobic and sexist will be the first to go.

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Originally Posted by Nicholas

Yeah. Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, KRS ONE, Macklemore, Jay Z, Nas.... we all hate hip hop.

You're honestly on the verge of trolling.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Never said you hated hiphop. Nice try. And if any of them are asking for restrictions to free speech they're looking at a hiphop ban themselves. Right now you're picking and choosing what pc is to you and saying ban what you want. But obviously, rap, which has been called misogynistic, racist and sexist will be the first to go.

PC isn't asking for restrictions to free speech. It never has done and never will do. You failed to provide a definition earlier in the thread so I'm going to do the work for you.

From the Cambridge Dictionary:
"Someone who is politically correct believes that language and actions that could be offensive to others, especially those relating to sex and race, should be avoided."

I would consider myself politically correct. There is nothing in the term politically correct that implies that others can't say offensive things. That's not what the term means or is about.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

Never said you hated hiphop. Nice try. And if any of them are asking for restrictions to free speech they're looking at a hiphop ban themselves. Right now you're picking and choosing what pc is to you and saying ban what you want. But obviously, rap, which has been called misogynistic, racist and sexist will be the first to go.

PC isn't asking for restrictions to free speech. It never has done and never will do. You failed to provide a definition earlier in the thread so I'm going to do the work for you.

From the Cambridge Dictionary:
"Someone who is politically correct believes that language and actions that could be offensive to others, especially those relating to sex and race, should be avoided."

I would consider myself politically correct. There is nothing in the term politically correct that implies that others can't say offensive things. That's not what the term means or is about.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

PC isn't asking for restrictions to free speech. It never has done and never will do. You failed to provide a definition earlier in the thread so I'm going to do the work for you.

From the Cambridge Dictionary:
"Someone who is politically correct believes that language and actions that could be offensive to others, especially those relating to sex and race, should be avoided."

I would consider myself politically correct. There is nothing in the term politically correct that implies that others can't say offensive things. That's not what the term means or is about.

I defined pc several times and honestly you're asking for proof that's not needed or rather a clarification. As we all know what PC means or can use google to find out. And regardless of it's definition there is its application also. And people in this thread were advocating to restrict rights based on what's pc and should be permissible.

And I'm glad you consider your self pc. But of course you would because PC is often about ones perception and not based in fact.

So if the pc police in this thread and in rl had their way hiphop would be outlawed. It almost was once before, or at least severely restricted. As it was seen a misogynistic and could influence listeners to commit crimes. And that sounds just like what you and Swagga were saying about Trump. There's no difference besides your internal system of morals. Which you think should be the standard bearer for society. And honestly, I don't think you're pc I think you're extreme and don't want you telling me what's right or wrong or what to say. No thanks Stalin.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

PC isn't asking for restrictions to free speech. It never has done and never will do. You failed to provide a definition earlier in the thread so I'm going to do the work for you.

From the Cambridge Dictionary:
"Someone who is politically correct believes that language and actions that could be offensive to others, especially those relating to sex and race, should be avoided."

I would consider myself politically correct. There is nothing in the term politically correct that implies that others can't say offensive things. That's not what the term means or is about.

I defined pc several times and honestly you're asking for proof that's not needed or rather a clarification. As we all know what PC means or can use google to find out. And regardless of it's definition there is its application also. And people in this thread were advocating to restrict rights based on what's pc and should be permissible.

And I'm glad you consider your self pc. But of course you would because PC is often about ones perception and not based in fact.

So if the pc police in this thread and in rl had their way hiphop would be outlawed. It almost was once before, or at least severely restricted. As it was seen a misogynistic and could influence listeners to commit crimes. And that sounds just like what you and Swagga were saying about Trump. There's no difference besides your internal system of morals. Which you think should be the standard bearer for society. And honestly, I don't think you're pc I think you're extreme and don't want you telling me what's right or wrong or what to say. No thanks Stalin.

Nick, one thing funny to me is that Lyve's ridiculous responses remind me so much of yours. "You honestly must be trolling right now" = "I disagree with your opinion but am frustrated that my flawed replies are not changing your entire beliefs".

None the less, Lyve saying I'm confusing whatever with the "left and right" is where this stupidity comes in. People convince themselves that they must tailor their entire belief system around some bullshit expression and label. You don't have to automatically assume every black person shot by a white person is guilty, nor do you have to assume they are innocent. You can take that situation as an individual point. People pick a side, or a label, then proceed to surround themselves with an exclusively biased form of media. If every time you log onto the internet you see an article saying that the white man's doing this, that college kids are doing that, that men are doing whatever, you will start to belief that that's the only narrative that makes sense.

Here's an example (aka here's a personal against me if we ever battle). When my girlfriend put up the "announcement" of us going out, she got 3 guys saying creepy shit. One a random dude who gave her a lift home one night 7 months before I knew her who actually used a picture I'm in, kissing her, as the basis of his "hey you look hot" message. Another was a guy saying some weird shit who it turns out with she was seeing for a bit. Another I can'tt remember. She thinks it's normal for guys to act like this now. She says that shit happens to her friends all the time and it's just something you "accept" as being a girl in 2017. I dunno if it's just cause I missed out on this whole 'tinder / internet dating' shit, but that shit is completely not normal, and I'd tell my best mate he was being a fucking weirdo if he acted like that with a girl.

When everything that surrounds you is saying one thing (or everything you surround yourself with in the case of PC culture / anti-PC culture), you are going to start to believe it.

Nick, one thing funny to me is that Lyve's ridiculous responses remind me so much of yours. "You honestly must be trolling right now" = "I disagree with your opinion but am frustrated that my flawed replies are not changing your entire beliefs".

None the less, Lyve saying I'm confusing whatever with the "left and right" is where this stupidity comes in. People convince themselves that they must tailor their entire belief system around some bullshit expression and label. You don't have to automatically assume every black person shot by a white person is guilty, nor do you have to assume they are innocent. You can take that situation as an individual point. People pick a side, or a label, then proceed to surround themselves with an exclusively biased form of media. If every time you log onto the internet you see an article saying that the white man's doing this, that college kids are doing that, that men are doing whatever, you will start to belief that that's the only narrative that makes sense.

Here's an example (aka here's a personal against me if we ever battle). When my girlfriend put up the "announcement" of us going out, she got 3 guys saying creepy shit. One a random dude who gave her a lift home one night 7 months before I knew her who actually used a picture I'm in, kissing her, as the basis of his "hey you look hot" message. Another was a guy saying some weird shit who it turns out with she was seeing for a bit. Another I can'tt remember. She thinks it's normal for guys to act like this now. She says that shit happens to her friends all the time and it's just something you "accept" as being a girl in 2017. I dunno if it's just cause I missed out on this whole 'tinder / internet dating' shit, but that shit is completely not normal, and I'd tell my best mate he was being a fucking weirdo if he acted like that with a girl.

When everything that surrounds you is saying one thing (or everything you surround yourself with in the case of PC culture / anti-PC culture), you are going to start to believe it.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Schnerch Party

Nick, one thing funny to me is that Lyve's ridiculous responses remind me so much of yours. "You honestly must be trolling right now" = "I disagree with your opinion but am frustrated that my flawed replies are not changing your entire beliefs".

None the less, Lyve saying I'm confusing whatever with the "left and right" is where this stupidity comes in. People convince themselves that they must tailor their entire belief system around some bullshit expression and label. You don't have to automatically assume every black person shot by a white person is guilty, nor do you have to assume they are innocent. You can take that situation as an individual point. People pick a side, or a label, then proceed to surround themselves with an exclusively biased form of media. If every time you log onto the internet you see an article saying that the white man's doing this, that college kids are doing that, that men are doing whatever, you will start to belief that that's the only narrative that makes sense.

Here's an example (aka here's a personal against me if we ever battle). When my girlfriend put up the "announcement" of us going out, she got 3 guys saying creepy shit. One a random dude who gave her a lift home one night 7 months before I knew her who actually used a picture I'm in, kissing her, as the basis of his "hey you look hot" message. Another was a guy saying some weird shit who it turns out with she was seeing for a bit. Another I can'tt remember. She thinks it's normal for guys to act like this now. She says that shit happens to her friends all the time and it's just something you "accept" as being a girl in 2017. I dunno if it's just cause I missed out on this whole 'tinder / internet dating' shit, but that shit is completely not normal, and I'd tell my best mate he was being a fucking weirdo if he acted like that with a girl.

When everything that surrounds you is saying one thing (or everything you surround yourself with in the case of PC culture / anti-PC culture), you are going to start to believe it.

You proved absolutely nothing in this long winded rant. The left and the right use PC like they do abortion, gay marriage and any other controversial issue to divide the country. Please point out what I'm wrong about and prove your point.

[Way Lyve]

Originally Posted by Schnerch Party

Nick, one thing funny to me is that Lyve's ridiculous responses remind me so much of yours. "You honestly must be trolling right now" = "I disagree with your opinion but am frustrated that my flawed replies are not changing your entire beliefs".

None the less, Lyve saying I'm confusing whatever with the "left and right" is where this stupidity comes in. People convince themselves that they must tailor their entire belief system around some bullshit expression and label. You don't have to automatically assume every black person shot by a white person is guilty, nor do you have to assume they are innocent. You can take that situation as an individual point. People pick a side, or a label, then proceed to surround themselves with an exclusively biased form of media. If every time you log onto the internet you see an article saying that the white man's doing this, that college kids are doing that, that men are doing whatever, you will start to belief that that's the only narrative that makes sense.

Here's an example (aka here's a personal against me if we ever battle). When my girlfriend put up the "announcement" of us going out, she got 3 guys saying creepy shit. One a random dude who gave her a lift home one night 7 months before I knew her who actually used a picture I'm in, kissing her, as the basis of his "hey you look hot" message. Another was a guy saying some weird shit who it turns out with she was seeing for a bit. Another I can'tt remember. She thinks it's normal for guys to act like this now. She says that shit happens to her friends all the time and it's just something you "accept" as being a girl in 2017. I dunno if it's just cause I missed out on this whole 'tinder / internet dating' shit, but that shit is completely not normal, and I'd tell my best mate he was being a fucking weirdo if he acted like that with a girl.

When everything that surrounds you is saying one thing (or everything you surround yourself with in the case of PC culture / anti-PC culture), you are going to start to believe it.

You proved absolutely nothing in this long winded rant. The left and the right use PC like they do abortion, gay marriage and any other controversial issue to divide the country. Please point out what I'm wrong about and prove your point.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

You proved absolutely nothing in this long winded rant. The left and the right use PC like they do abortion, gay marriage and any other controversial issue to divide the country. Please point out what I'm wrong about and prove your point.

And you've proved a tonne in the thread so far right?

There's nothing to "prove". This is a discussion. People are saying their opinions and thoughts. I said that "the left and right" are stupid definitions to try and consolidate an entire person's belief systems.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

You proved absolutely nothing in this long winded rant. The left and the right use PC like they do abortion, gay marriage and any other controversial issue to divide the country. Please point out what I'm wrong about and prove your point.

And you've proved a tonne in the thread so far right?

There's nothing to "prove". This is a discussion. People are saying their opinions and thoughts. I said that "the left and right" are stupid definitions to try and consolidate an entire person's belief systems.