Esso explain yourself

Concept Champion stealing concepts?

sus asf.

He commented on my battle and pointed out my Dollar Shave Club bar(my multi account is currently named UnethiCaL because of current beef)

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=492641

this link is him using the dollar shave club concept months later


https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=497031



See you in the tourney.

Concept Champion stealing concepts?

sus asf.

He commented on my battle and pointed out my Dollar Shave Club bar(my multi account is currently named UnethiCaL because of current beef)

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=492641

this link is him using the dollar shave club concept months later


https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=497031



See you in the tourney.

[Babylon]

Never saw your bar, but I heavily fucked with his version when I voted on sawyer vs esso.

I suppose it is fairly weird he voted on that battle AND pointed that bar out specifically, but the usual people here seem to have an incredibly loose sense on what constitutes as biting generally so this case might come off as even more of a reach than usual because its just the concept.

[Babylon]

Never saw your bar, but I heavily fucked with his version when I voted on sawyer vs esso.

I suppose it is fairly weird he voted on that battle AND pointed that bar out specifically, but the usual people here seem to have an incredibly loose sense on what constitutes as biting generally so this case might come off as even more of a reach than usual because its just the concept.

Meh. Its a concept. It wasn't set up or executed like yours. Shit happens. I did this recently actually. (Self snitch incoming) I used a "put him in a coffin" concept in a bar. A while later I'm reviewing my old audios and someone used the concept against me. The set ups and executions were way off but it dawned on me that subconsciously that resonated with me and I pulled it out months later with no recollection of its origin. That Shits bound to happen.

Meh. Its a concept. It wasn't set up or executed like yours. Shit happens. I did this recently actually. (Self snitch incoming) I used a "put him in a coffin" concept in a bar. A while later I'm reviewing my old audios and someone used the concept against me. The set ups and executions were way off but it dawned on me that subconsciously that resonated with me and I pulled it out months later with no recollection of its origin. That Shits bound to happen.

[Shodan]

It's probably derivative, at least. Perhaps a bite. I would call it a ridiculous reach if not for the aforementioned comment in your battle.

[Shodan]

It's probably derivative, at least. Perhaps a bite. I would call it a ridiculous reach if not for the aforementioned comment in your battle.

Subconscious, imo.

Subconscious, imo.

[Shodan]

Considering these two bars, there are, essentially, four likely scenarios:

1) Esso conceived the idea totally independently, presumably having forgotten Celsius' use of it.
2) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar and never realized it.
3) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar, but realized it before releasing his own bar. He may or may not have changed his bar between said realization and release.
4) Esso consciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar.

If 1) or 2) is the case, Esso did not bite.

If 3) or 4) is the case, whether or not Esso bit is subjective, although I consider Esso's bar different enough from Celsius' as to not be bitten.

[Shodan]

Considering these two bars, there are, essentially, four likely scenarios:

1) Esso conceived the idea totally independently, presumably having forgotten Celsius' use of it.
2) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar and never realized it.
3) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar, but realized it before releasing his own bar. He may or may not have changed his bar between said realization and release.
4) Esso consciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar.

If 1) or 2) is the case, Esso did not bite.

If 3) or 4) is the case, whether or not Esso bit is subjective, although I consider Esso's bar different enough from Celsius' as to not be bitten.

[NOBLE]

It's not a bite. I wouldn't even say it's the same concept. It's the same metaphor (Dollar Shave Club) that's being compared to something, but the idea is different. I can understand why you find it iffy though.

[NOBLE]

It's not a bite. I wouldn't even say it's the same concept. It's the same metaphor (Dollar Shave Club) that's being compared to something, but the idea is different. I can understand why you find it iffy though.

[Esso]

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

[Esso]

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

Originally Posted by Esso

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...

See you tomorrow. Esso.

Originally Posted by Esso

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...

See you tomorrow. Esso.

[Esso]

Originally Posted by Celsius

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...

your bar, fool...your bar was in 2015.

[Esso]

Originally Posted by Celsius

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...

your bar, fool...your bar was in 2015.