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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:31 AM
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Default Idea: Add a tier system

I suggested this shit probably like 100 times throughout my yrs on here but i cant find the thread to bump..

Lightweight, Middleweight, Heavyweight tiers? Beginner, Amateur, Professional, Low, Mid, Top.. or something like Bronze, Silver, Gold

I'm using 3 tiers for a quick example...it can be 5 tiers too. it'd work using similar calculations to the formula we have now... you beat somebody and based on their rank you get X amount of points..except this time the penalties are more/less severe based on your tier

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

if anything you could code an entirely different shit based on points where 0 pts is low tier, 50 for mid tier, and 100 for top tier or some shit.

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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:31 AM   #1
 
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Default Idea: Add a tier system

I suggested this shit probably like 100 times throughout my yrs on here but i cant find the thread to bump..

Lightweight, Middleweight, Heavyweight tiers? Beginner, Amateur, Professional, Low, Mid, Top.. or something like Bronze, Silver, Gold

I'm using 3 tiers for a quick example...it can be 5 tiers too. it'd work using similar calculations to the formula we have now... you beat somebody and based on their rank you get X amount of points..except this time the penalties are more/less severe based on your tier

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

if anything you could code an entirely different shit based on points where 0 pts is low tier, 50 for mid tier, and 100 for top tier or some shit.

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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:40 AM
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Didn't we try this with the Tier 1, 2, and 3 awards already?
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Didn't we try this with the Tier 1, 2, and 3 awards already?
 
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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:45 AM
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:50 AM
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Unread 08-31-2015, 01:16 PM
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Godbody for president.
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Unread 08-31-2015, 01:21 PM
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that makes alot of sense and should get put into place immediately!
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that makes alot of sense and should get put into place immediately!
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>gets told not to bring up ideas that require coding, because they're impractical at present.

>reiterates the same idea he's made a thread about 10 times that requires coding.
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>gets told not to bring up ideas that require coding, because they're impractical at present.

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What Godbody is suggesting could very easily be achieved through implementing an ELO type system. This would definitely be an improvement on the current ranking system, which is more a measure of prolonged output than genuine skill.

With such a system in place it's then just a case of setting nominal milestones as your tier boundaries. This in turn could allow for more competitions to be run which could encourage newer members of the site to stay involved ('weight championships' and things like mixed tag team tournaments, for example).

I do think that it's quite weird that this website is run with the intent of making money, but without seeing that both time/monetary investment is required to advance it as a product.

Just my thoughts.
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What Godbody is suggesting could very easily be achieved through implementing an ELO type system. This would definitely be an improvement on the current ranking system, which is more a measure of prolonged output than genuine skill.

With such a system in place it's then just a case of setting nominal milestones as your tier boundaries. This in turn could allow for more competitions to be run which could encourage newer members of the site to stay involved ('weight championships' and things like mixed tag team tournaments, for example).

I do think that it's quite weird that this website is run with the intent of making money, but without seeing that both time/monetary investment is required to advance it as a product.

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Unread 08-31-2015, 02:39 PM
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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
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Think of LetsBeef like a sandbox where things can be added and removed but the "sand" is the code so things don't always "mesh" with our specific sand and changing the "sand" would literally be like changing sand one piece at a time.

Basically we've got to work with what we've got for the time being and have work arounds.

In the mean time why not simply battle in the exclusive arena? Nobody ever does it because they want votes but you then they complain about "low votes, noob votes, shitty votes, etc" in the basic arena. The FVC should also make voting in the exclusive arena a priority and if we as a userbase agree we could all make it a point to vote on exclusive arenas.
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Think of LetsBeef like a sandbox where things can be added and removed but the "sand" is the code so things don't always "mesh" with our specific sand and changing the "sand" would literally be like changing sand one piece at a time.

Basically we've got to work with what we've got for the time being and have work arounds.

In the mean time why not simply battle in the exclusive arena? Nobody ever does it because they want votes but you then they complain about "low votes, noob votes, shitty votes, etc" in the basic arena. The FVC should also make voting in the exclusive arena a priority and if we as a userbase agree we could all make it a point to vote on exclusive arenas.
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