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The only way to prove that numerology/gematria is real is to use it to predict something that hasn't yet occurred. That is the true test of any valid pattern. Because patterns repeat, if what you're looking at is truly a pattern as opposed to a false pattern recognition, it should be very easy to predict precise events. For example, I can confidently predict that the sun will rise tomorrow morning because I have noticed a pattern of it rising every morning. If you can't do the same with numerology/gematria, it's not a real pattern. Anybody can match up things and find connections after the fact. You can literally see whatever you want to see. I can look at the clouds and see the face of Abe Lincoln if my imagination is fervent enough. But to be able to predict stuff beforehand is a whole different ballgame.
Let's take, for example, the proposition that the name SISI = 9191. First of all, who's alphabet are you using? SISI is a Roman alphabet translation of an Arab man's name, so his name would have been originally meant to be spoken/written in Arabic. There are many alphabets which use Roman letters, and the letters don't occur in the same order in all of them. The English alphabet starts off with the Roman letters A, B, C...but in Greek and Hebrew, the third letters are Gamma and Gimel, which would be the equivalent of English's G rather than C. So G might equal 7 in English but equals 3 in Hebrew and equals something else in another language. You also have languages with varying numbers of letters. Ancient Kemetic (Egyptian hieroglyphs) had over 1,000 different glyphs or letters. There are languages with letters and diphthongs which don't have an equivalent in English or any other Western language. Where is the numerology for those? What about languages that don't even have an alphabet because their culture never developed a written script and passed down everything through oral tradition? How would you determine which one of their letters come first or second? Where is the numerology for those? If you found the spelling of SISI in Arabic and match it up to the numerical value of the Arabic alphabet's placement, would SISI still equal 9191? And how could one argue that the numerical value of his name in English writing is any more valid than in his mother tongue or in any other language it may be translated to? His name might have alternate spellings as well in his mother tongue which would yield different numerical values. You could take the whole name, not just the SISI part, and come up with a different number to fit whatever narrative you want people to see. There was a time when English, Arabic, Hebrew, or Greek weren't even languages yet or hadn't acquired an alphabet. Was numerology valid then?
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The only way to prove that numerology/gematria is real is to use it to predict something that hasn't yet occurred. That is the true test of any valid pattern. Because patterns repeat, if what you're looking at is truly a pattern as opposed to a false pattern recognition, it should be very easy to predict precise events. For example, I can confidently predict that the sun will rise tomorrow morning because I have noticed a pattern of it rising every morning. If you can't do the same with numerology/gematria, it's not a real pattern. Anybody can match up things and find connections after the fact. You can literally see whatever you want to see. I can look at the clouds and see the face of Abe Lincoln if my imagination is fervent enough. But to be able to predict stuff beforehand is a whole different ballgame.
Let's take, for example, the proposition that the name SISI = 9191. First of all, who's alphabet are you using? SISI is a Roman alphabet translation of an Arab man's name, so his name would have been originally meant to be spoken/written in Arabic. There are many alphabets which use Roman letters, and the letters don't occur in the same order in all of them. The English alphabet starts off with the Roman letters A, B, C...but in Greek and Hebrew, the third letters are Gamma and Gimel, which would be the equivalent of English's G rather than C. So G might equal 7 in English but equals 3 in Hebrew and equals something else in another language. You also have languages with varying numbers of letters. Ancient Kemetic (Egyptian hieroglyphs) had over 1,000 different glyphs or letters. There are languages with letters and diphthongs which don't have an equivalent in English or any other Western language. Where is the numerology for those? What about languages that don't even have an alphabet because their culture never developed a written script and passed down everything through oral tradition? How would you determine which one of their letters come first or second? Where is the numerology for those? If you found the spelling of SISI in Arabic and match it up to the numerical value of the Arabic alphabet's placement, would SISI still equal 9191? And how could one argue that the numerical value of his name in English writing is any more valid than in his mother tongue or in any other language it may be translated to? His name might have alternate spellings as well in his mother tongue which would yield different numerical values. You could take the whole name, not just the SISI part, and come up with a different number to fit whatever narrative you want people to see. There was a time when English, Arabic, Hebrew, or Greek weren't even languages yet or hadn't acquired an alphabet. Was numerology valid then?
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@ Swagga Lee David Wilcock discusses exactly that in his book The Synchronicity Key. He says that we have repeated the same events over and over throughout history based on the cycles of the mayan calender. It's kind of what 2012 hype was truly about. Not the end of the world but the end of an age.
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Also watch a movie called Pi (3.14) It's about how this mathematician cracked the hidden meaning in the Torah by translating the words into numbers. It's dope.
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@ Swagga Lee David Wilcock discusses exactly that in his book The Synchronicity Key. He says that we have repeated the same events over and over throughout history based on the cycles of the mayan calender. It's kind of what 2012 hype was truly about. Not the end of the world but the end of an age.
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Also watch a movie called Pi (3.14) It's about how this mathematician cracked the hidden meaning in the Torah by translating the words into numbers. It's dope.
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The fact that English (and most Western alphabets) start with A, B, Greek starts with Alpha, Beta, Hebrew starts with Aleph, Bet---isn't synchronicity. These languages are derived from one another, so it's no surprise that their numerology may match up to some extent (but not all the way). They also all have traditions of numerology due to their cultures having came in contact with each other. Synchronicity entails events happening independently without mutual awareness. If you try to take the argument to languages outside of this circle, like Mandarin Chinese or some African and Meso-American languages that don't have written scripts, the numerology argument falls apart very quickly. What about African languages that don't even have letters but rather just "clicks?" Languages, along with their alphabets, were developed arbitrarily. To argue some natural or divine order based on words that we humans came up with arbitrarily is a bit of a reach.
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The fact that English (and most Western alphabets) start with A, B, Greek starts with Alpha, Beta, Hebrew starts with Aleph, Bet---isn't synchronicity. These languages are derived from one another, so it's no surprise that their numerology may match up to some extent (but not all the way). They also all have traditions of numerology due to their cultures having came in contact with each other. Synchronicity entails events happening independently without mutual awareness. If you try to take the argument to languages outside of this circle, like Mandarin Chinese or some African and Meso-American languages that don't have written scripts, the numerology argument falls apart very quickly. What about African languages that don't even have letters but rather just "clicks?" Languages, along with their alphabets, were developed arbitrarily. To argue some natural or divine order based on words that we humans came up with arbitrarily is a bit of a reach.
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We didn't make it up arbitrarily. We were given language by the extraterrestrials that created us. Those letters are based on numbers because numbers are in science and nature as well.
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We didn't make it up arbitrarily. We were given language by the extraterrestrials that created us. Those letters are based on numbers because numbers are in science and nature as well.
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We didn't make it up arbitrarily. We were given language by the extraterrestrials that created us. Those letters are based on numbers because numbers are in science and nature as well.
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We didn't make it up arbitrarily. We were given language by the extraterrestrials that created us. Those letters are based on numbers because numbers are in science and nature as well.
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When you say we were "given language by the extraterrestrials," do you mean the words we use or our capacity to use them? Please define what you mean by language in that context. You say the letters are based on numbers....fine. The whole point I was making before was that letters appear in different numerical orders in the alphabets of different languages. How do you determine who is right and who has the correct numerical value attached to their letters?
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When you say we were "given language by the extraterrestrials," do you mean the words we use or our capacity to use them? Please define what you mean by language in that context. You say the letters are based on numbers....fine. The whole point I was making before was that letters appear in different numerical orders in the alphabets of different languages. How do you determine who is right and who has the correct numerical value attached to their letters?
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When you say we were "given language by the extraterrestrials," do you mean the words we use or our capacity to use them? Please define what you mean by language in that context. You say the letters are based on numbers....fine. The whole point I was making before was that letters appear in different numerical orders in the alphabets of different languages. How do you determine who is right and who has the correct numerical value attached to their letters?
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Different languages mean different mathematical equations that's all.
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Wow, genuinely didn't think someone would one up pulse in these reach beliefs *claps*
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If you studied history and researched the way I have, you would understand. It's like a human trying to explain to his dog why we have to go to work all day.
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When you say we were "given language by the extraterrestrials," do you mean the words we use or our capacity to use them? Please define what you mean by language in that context. You say the letters are based on numbers....fine. The whole point I was making before was that letters appear in different numerical orders in the alphabets of different languages. How do you determine who is right and who has the correct numerical value attached to their letters?
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Different languages mean different mathematical equations that's all.
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If you studied history and researched the way I have, you would understand. It's like a human trying to explain to his dog why we have to go to work all day.
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Different languages mean different mathematical equations that's all.
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