Self-Improvement

[DiZzReSpEkT]

Originally Posted by lllllllllll

Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars

DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.

To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.

Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.

Nah, I already decided I don’t like those style of bars personally, which is why I always vote against them. Certain battlers on here popularized them, and now that’s literally the only formula people vote for.

So I’m selling my soul and making those types of bars. It’s the only thing mf’s on here vote for. I’m not referring to myself either when I say I’ve seen people lose battles when they had better rhyming and concepts to people who perfected the “you couldn’t x if y” type bars. Same shit as the “I’ll have x like y” type bars.

[DiZzReSpEkT]

Originally Posted by lllllllllll

Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars

DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.

To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.

Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.

Nah, I already decided I don’t like those style of bars personally, which is why I always vote against them. Certain battlers on here popularized them, and now that’s literally the only formula people vote for.

So I’m selling my soul and making those types of bars. It’s the only thing mf’s on here vote for. I’m not referring to myself either when I say I’ve seen people lose battles when they had better rhyming and concepts to people who perfected the “you couldn’t x if y” type bars. Same shit as the “I’ll have x like y” type bars.

[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by lllllllllll

Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars

DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.

To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.

Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.

I completely agree with this, and getting my flow right is one of my main challenges at the moment, but I think flow needs more than just syllables to work right. Because it's a text verse you're relying on the person to read it smoothly, which means you also need to have a logical flow for them to follow. What I mean by that is that they shouldn't be stopping feeling confused or distracted by what you're saying, until the punchline hits and they stop with the impact of it. That means your vocabulary and turn of phrase has to be words people commonly use and understand; your setups have to be believable and the things you're saying have to make sense.

I think rhythmic flow and logical flow tend to go hand in hand, and together they're what constitute "execution". Not disagreeing with what Punk said, just adding to it.

[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by lllllllllll

Best advice I can give before LB corrupts you and have you writing wack ass "he wouldn't (action here) if (comparison here) bars

DEFINITELY find your own style and master Flow first. Punches will come to you do dont worry. But mastering how your verse is flowed in a text box is an art itself.

To me, flow consists of running the right amount of syllables each line, making your multis fit into those syllables while keeping them relevant to your concept, and making sure voters read your verse exactly how you want them to.

Ideally, if you outflow your opponent, you probably already got him beat so if you can master that and insert sweet creative punchlines, you're legendary b.

I completely agree with this, and getting my flow right is one of my main challenges at the moment, but I think flow needs more than just syllables to work right. Because it's a text verse you're relying on the person to read it smoothly, which means you also need to have a logical flow for them to follow. What I mean by that is that they shouldn't be stopping feeling confused or distracted by what you're saying, until the punchline hits and they stop with the impact of it. That means your vocabulary and turn of phrase has to be words people commonly use and understand; your setups have to be believable and the things you're saying have to make sense.

I think rhythmic flow and logical flow tend to go hand in hand, and together they're what constitute "execution". Not disagreeing with what Punk said, just adding to it.

[DiZzReSpEkT]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

I completely agree with this, and getting my flow right is one of my main challenges at the moment, but I think flow needs more than just syllables to work right. Because it's a text verse you're relying on the person to read it smoothly, which means you also need to have a logical flow for them to follow. What I mean by that is that they shouldn't be stopping feeling confused or distracted by what you're saying, until the punchline hits and they stop with the impact of it. That means your vocabulary and turn of phrase has to be words people commonly use and understand; your setups have to be believable and the things you're saying have to make sense.

I think rhythmic flow and logical flow tend to go hand in hand, and together they're what constitute "execution". Not disagreeing with what Punk said, just adding to it.

Agree with this. I typically put that under structure though. As for execution, I only consider how efficiently they made their bar (Didn’t waste Space that didn’t help the bar), how good their bar was compared to their concept, and set-ups. After all, execution is simply short for “Execution of the concept”, how they chose to go about writing the concept. Someone could have a shitty concept and great multi’s and set-ups, but still get a high count for execution since the concept itself was the only thing that was bad, not how it was executed. However, I believe that rhyming, and concepts are the 2 most important things in a rap battle, and I mark accordingly.

[DiZzReSpEkT]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee

I completely agree with this, and getting my flow right is one of my main challenges at the moment, but I think flow needs more than just syllables to work right. Because it's a text verse you're relying on the person to read it smoothly, which means you also need to have a logical flow for them to follow. What I mean by that is that they shouldn't be stopping feeling confused or distracted by what you're saying, until the punchline hits and they stop with the impact of it. That means your vocabulary and turn of phrase has to be words people commonly use and understand; your setups have to be believable and the things you're saying have to make sense.

I think rhythmic flow and logical flow tend to go hand in hand, and together they're what constitute "execution". Not disagreeing with what Punk said, just adding to it.

Agree with this. I typically put that under structure though. As for execution, I only consider how efficiently they made their bar (Didn’t waste Space that didn’t help the bar), how good their bar was compared to their concept, and set-ups. After all, execution is simply short for “Execution of the concept”, how they chose to go about writing the concept. Someone could have a shitty concept and great multi’s and set-ups, but still get a high count for execution since the concept itself was the only thing that was bad, not how it was executed. However, I believe that rhyming, and concepts are the 2 most important things in a rap battle, and I mark accordingly.

[The Saaxxx Baba]

Explore with everything and then be the balance of the best parts of all those things with your own cum shot (ppersonal flavour) on it.

Kinda like having side bitches like tiger woods inspite having multiple wives like osama lol.

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Originally Posted by MadVerbs

First thing's first, change the name back to Wolf.

THIS !!

stick to one name and dnt make too many name changes at all but ur 14 so it's natural that u gonna explore with different things which is a good thing too. Just try putting more thought into it when u do so that u feel like sticking with it longer.

[The Saaxxx Baba]

Explore with everything and then be the balance of the best parts of all those things with your own cum shot (ppersonal flavour) on it.

Kinda like having side bitches like tiger woods inspite having multiple wives like osama lol.

---------- Post added at 05:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 AM ----------

Originally Posted by MadVerbs

First thing's first, change the name back to Wolf.

THIS !!

stick to one name and dnt make too many name changes at all but ur 14 so it's natural that u gonna explore with different things which is a good thing too. Just try putting more thought into it when u do so that u feel like sticking with it longer.