Examples of why the Moderation team needs to be replaced:

[Preem]

es page should be updated, but none of the active staff have the power to make changes to it. The current official policy on biting is that mods should confer and discuss the issue together then reach a group decision and give the appropriate infraction and/or ban. Unfortunately this is written in the staff forums, which regular users don't have access to, but if you ask other users that have been around the site for a few years I'm sure they can confirm staff usually take time to investigate a biting accusation and work out what the appropriate response is.

Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently? If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.

[Preem]

es page should be updated, but none of the active staff have the power to make changes to it. The current official policy on biting is that mods should confer and discuss the issue together then reach a group decision and give the appropriate infraction and/or ban. Unfortunately this is written in the staff forums, which regular users don't have access to, but if you ask other users that have been around the site for a few years I'm sure they can confirm staff usually take time to investigate a biting accusation and work out what the appropriate response is.

Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently? If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.

[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by Yung Slang

Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently?

100% yes. Examples:
A) Someone bites many bars from live battles or other LB battles in multiple battles in serious competitions then tries to claim they are their own.
B) Some noob starts the first line of their first ever verse with a line from an Eminem song
C) Someone has two lines in a verse that are very similar to lines from a live battle, but it’s unclear whether it’s their own work
D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it

These four examples are all very different, and reacting in exactly the same way to all of them means you end up either coming down way too hard on confused noobs and scaring them off the site, or letting serial biters get away with shit they shouldn’t. That’s why we have mod discretion.

If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.

It’s not an intentionally hidden policy, though it should definitely be more clearly displayed. But again, the rules pages aren’t something the mods can alter.

[Kiwi Peewee]

Originally Posted by Yung Slang

Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently?

100% yes. Examples:
A) Someone bites many bars from live battles or other LB battles in multiple battles in serious competitions then tries to claim they are their own.
B) Some noob starts the first line of their first ever verse with a line from an Eminem song
C) Someone has two lines in a verse that are very similar to lines from a live battle, but it’s unclear whether it’s their own work
D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it

These four examples are all very different, and reacting in exactly the same way to all of them means you end up either coming down way too hard on confused noobs and scaring them off the site, or letting serial biters get away with shit they shouldn’t. That’s why we have mod discretion.

If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.

It’s not an intentionally hidden policy, though it should definitely be more clearly displayed. But again, the rules pages aren’t something the mods can alter.

[Preem]

D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it

This just sounds like you making excuses for Locchart now. He doesn't start the battle by saying "I bit this entire verse" anyone reading it would assume they are his bars, that's why people are voting for him and saying how funny the rhymes are etc... "never claiming them as their own" is ridiculous when you literally post the verse as your own in a ranked battle. Anyone replying to the blind open would also have no idea until they waste all their bars for the battle to get closed without votes.

By this logic anyone could break any rule and when they get caught just claim it was a "joke".

I think the original rules that are posted make a lot more sense and leave a lot less room for bias interpretation. Maybe that's why it's setup so it can't be changed.

[Preem]

D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it

This just sounds like you making excuses for Locchart now. He doesn't start the battle by saying "I bit this entire verse" anyone reading it would assume they are his bars, that's why people are voting for him and saying how funny the rhymes are etc... "never claiming them as their own" is ridiculous when you literally post the verse as your own in a ranked battle. Anyone replying to the blind open would also have no idea until they waste all their bars for the battle to get closed without votes.

By this logic anyone could break any rule and when they get caught just claim it was a "joke".

I think the original rules that are posted make a lot more sense and leave a lot less room for bias interpretation. Maybe that's why it's setup so it can't be changed.

[Flako Boom]

You won already.. don't bite the bait cause that's what's you doing

[Flako Boom]

You won already.. don't bite the bait cause that's what's you doing

[EtH]

If i did what Lock did Id be permabanned.

[EtH]

If i did what Lock did Id be permabanned.

Originally Posted by Champion EtH

If i did what Lock did Id have my account deleted by Pugz.

FIFY.

Originally Posted by Champion EtH

If i did what Lock did Id have my account deleted by Pugz.

FIFY.

[EtH]

I meant more literally. I'm still one infraction point from auto permaban. I considered doing it for the joke but I don't have the energy haha

[EtH]

I meant more literally. I'm still one infraction point from auto permaban. I considered doing it for the joke but I don't have the energy haha

[Sean Griffey]

That was the fastest ban-lift in Letsbeef history lol

[Sean Griffey]

That was the fastest ban-lift in Letsbeef history lol

[Bnas]

Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

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Originally Posted by Yung Slang

So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:





Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

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Originally Posted by Yung Slang

So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:





Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

[Bnas]

Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

---------- Post added at 11:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Yung Slang

So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:





Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Yung Slang

So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:





Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

[Preem]

Originally Posted by Bnas

Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

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PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------




A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

DRAIN THE SWAMP

[Preem]

Originally Posted by Bnas

Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

---------- Post added at 11:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------





PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------




A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

DRAIN THE SWAMP