Guests in Hip Hop

[EtH]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

Noble thinking LB forgot how much of a racist he is and don't know his intention in making this thread.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

Noble thinking LB forgot how much of a racist he is and don't know his intention in making this thread.

[Phil Banks]

I can't stand Eminem's music. But I don't think he's a guest in anything. Hip Hop in my opinion is urban culture not Black culture. Lord Jamar is racist. He's also wack as fuck and I haven't heard a verse of his I've liked ever. His beats are dope. I don't think we could call Rick Rubin or even the Beastie Boys guests. Shit even Vanilla Ice in his own way advanced the culture and opened doors. By coining it as Black owned or something it's exluding others and that's exactly what Hip Hop was never about for me.


LJ started all this shit to put Em in an almost unwinnable position I don't agree with him at all though. Honestly the guy is cringe city as is Eminem IMO two old cornballs I couldn't careless about. This arguement has rubbed me wrong since he presented it a year or so ago though.

[Phil Banks]

I can't stand Eminem's music. But I don't think he's a guest in anything. Hip Hop in my opinion is urban culture not Black culture. Lord Jamar is racist. He's also wack as fuck and I haven't heard a verse of his I've liked ever. His beats are dope. I don't think we could call Rick Rubin or even the Beastie Boys guests. Shit even Vanilla Ice in his own way advanced the culture and opened doors. By coining it as Black owned or something it's exluding others and that's exactly what Hip Hop was never about for me.


LJ started all this shit to put Em in an almost unwinnable position I don't agree with him at all though. Honestly the guy is cringe city as is Eminem IMO two old cornballs I couldn't careless about. This arguement has rubbed me wrong since he presented it a year or so ago though.

[EtH]

I hate Eminem's music but he's the greatest rapper of all time.

[EtH]

I hate Eminem's music but he's the greatest rapper of all time.

[Phil Banks]

Originally Posted by EtH

I hate Eminem's music but he's the greatest rapper of all time.

I don't agree.

[Phil Banks]

Originally Posted by EtH

I hate Eminem's music but he's the greatest rapper of all time.

I don't agree.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Phil Banks

I don't agree.

Who covers as many categories as him? He tells his life through his music in a way that's only rivalled by Nas. He has the lyricism of Big L or Big Pun. He has the emotional input only rivalled by 2pac. He has the body of work to rival anyone. No rapper has been able to cross genres like Eminem.

It's all rolled in to add to the word "great".

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Phil Banks

I don't agree.

Who covers as many categories as him? He tells his life through his music in a way that's only rivalled by Nas. He has the lyricism of Big L or Big Pun. He has the emotional input only rivalled by 2pac. He has the body of work to rival anyone. No rapper has been able to cross genres like Eminem.

It's all rolled in to add to the word "great".

[Phil Banks]

Yeah I find his shit try hard and cringey. His songs with Royce are cool but I prefer Royce's writing IMO he's the best rapper right now. Every artist you name I rate higher than Em. It's personal preference and I have never been an Eminem fan. I never dyed my hair or hated my mom I just could never relate. I also thought MGK destroyed him in Rap Devil. And it wasn't even close.

I remember that cringe episode where he tried to pistol whip ICP with an empty gun or some goofball shit. Just never could take dude serious.

[Phil Banks]

Yeah I find his shit try hard and cringey. His songs with Royce are cool but I prefer Royce's writing IMO he's the best rapper right now. Every artist you name I rate higher than Em. It's personal preference and I have never been an Eminem fan. I never dyed my hair or hated my mom I just could never relate. I also thought MGK destroyed him in Rap Devil. And it wasn't even close.

I remember that cringe episode where he tried to pistol whip ICP with an empty gun or some goofball shit. Just never could take dude serious.

[EtH]

Oh don't get me wrong, I prefer someone like Eazy E over Eminems boring emo shit any day.

But nothing you said stops that "Great" kind of terminology. Unbiasedly, Eminem is the greatest rapper. I just don't enjoy a lot of his music.

[EtH]

Oh don't get me wrong, I prefer someone like Eazy E over Eminems boring emo shit any day.

But nothing you said stops that "Great" kind of terminology. Unbiasedly, Eminem is the greatest rapper. I just don't enjoy a lot of his music.

Originally Posted by Phil Banks

Yeah I find his shit try hard and cringey. His songs with Royce are cool but I prefer Royce's writing IMO he's the best rapper right now. Every artist you name I rate higher than Em. It's personal preference and I have never been an Eminem fan. I never dyed my hair or hated my mom I just could never relate. I also thought MGK destroyed him in Rap Devil. And it wasn't even close.

I remember that cringe episode where he tried to pistol whip ICP with an empty gun or some goofball shit. Just never could take dude serious.

"MGK destroyed him with rap devil"

He never crosses two syllable rhymes in the whole song
1 double entendre
Very basic vocab

If this was a battle on letsbeef Em ate MGK alive with 1 bar...

Originally Posted by Phil Banks

Yeah I find his shit try hard and cringey. His songs with Royce are cool but I prefer Royce's writing IMO he's the best rapper right now. Every artist you name I rate higher than Em. It's personal preference and I have never been an Eminem fan. I never dyed my hair or hated my mom I just could never relate. I also thought MGK destroyed him in Rap Devil. And it wasn't even close.

I remember that cringe episode where he tried to pistol whip ICP with an empty gun or some goofball shit. Just never could take dude serious.

"MGK destroyed him with rap devil"

He never crosses two syllable rhymes in the whole song
1 double entendre
Very basic vocab

If this was a battle on letsbeef Em ate MGK alive with 1 bar...

Basketball was invented by a white Canadian.
Close to 75 % of NBA players are black (2015).
Someone tweet out to Lord Jamar and ask him if they are all guests of this sport.

Basketball was invented by a white Canadian.
Close to 75 % of NBA players are black (2015).
Someone tweet out to Lord Jamar and ask him if they are all guests of this sport.

[Seul]

I dont like the whole guest in hip hop shit. Art brings people together, stop using it to separate us (I'm not black nor white).

Eminem popularized hip-hop to other races, he made them feel like they got a place in it. Hes the reason why the door opened to others. Indirectly, I think hes the reason why hip-hop has become the most popular music genre today. He may not be the only reason for this, but he had a major part to play.

Lord Jamar is just a racist tbh. People like that claim they sticking up for blacks but his actions only separate us more and cause animosity.

EDIT: Welcome back, NOBLE.

[Seul]

I dont like the whole guest in hip hop shit. Art brings people together, stop using it to separate us (I'm not black nor white).

Eminem popularized hip-hop to other races, he made them feel like they got a place in it. Hes the reason why the door opened to others. Indirectly, I think hes the reason why hip-hop has become the most popular music genre today. He may not be the only reason for this, but he had a major part to play.

Lord Jamar is just a racist tbh. People like that claim they sticking up for blacks but his actions only separate us more and cause animosity.

EDIT: Welcome back, NOBLE.