We need SOME TYPE OF UPDATE NOW

I’m slightly hurt to see the site like it is right now. Every time I log in I’m the only one online man. We need something and we need something quick!

I’m slightly hurt to see the site like it is right now. Every time I log in I’m the only one online man. We need something and we need something quick!

[Rai]

I firmly agree

[Rai]

I firmly agree

[Denton]

This was the plan all along, to kill LB

[Denton]

This was the plan all along, to kill LB

You guys deserved much better. I wish it didn't have to end like this.

You guys deserved much better. I wish it didn't have to end like this.

No they didn't. The community imploded

No they didn't. The community imploded

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

No they didn't. The community imploded

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

No they didn't. The community imploded

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

Originally Posted by Musashi

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

Originally Posted by Musashi

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

How did WE let immature and shady people run the site? The members don’t vote on who becomes staff, staff does....

The members are the ones who complain about staff.

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

How did WE let immature and shady people run the site? The members don’t vote on who becomes staff, staff does....

The members are the ones who complain about staff.

Originally Posted by Punk

All I’m asking for is something small man.... More screenshots on what’s newly added to V4 since the last dev X posted. Something SMALL..

I’m basically trying to save this site with threads right now. I understand me complaining is annoying but it’s legit the only way I can get people to post on the site right now.

You say if the old members wanna leave then leave... How exactly does that work when you have no new members replacing them?

Give the community an update on the update.

This was suggested before X decided to kick everyone from the staff forums. He clearly hasn't delivered on it.

It's OK if the core fan base leave the site because when the new site is up people will flood in right? It's a comedy of errors. There is only one outcome here and that's the death of the site. It's unpreventable without a change in ownership, the void between where they need to be at and where they are at is just way too big to fill.

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

That's definitely another factor. Which is why I resigned from staff. I was overruled when it came to banning people that thought it was acceptable to interfere with people's offline lives.

EDIT:
Punk also has a point. I don't think the staff were dumb asses. Just unmotivated due to a lack of leadership. That leads to bad decisions.

Originally Posted by Punk

All I’m asking for is something small man.... More screenshots on what’s newly added to V4 since the last dev X posted. Something SMALL..

I’m basically trying to save this site with threads right now. I understand me complaining is annoying but it’s legit the only way I can get people to post on the site right now.

You say if the old members wanna leave then leave... How exactly does that work when you have no new members replacing them?

Give the community an update on the update.

This was suggested before X decided to kick everyone from the staff forums. He clearly hasn't delivered on it.

It's OK if the core fan base leave the site because when the new site is up people will flood in right? It's a comedy of errors. There is only one outcome here and that's the death of the site. It's unpreventable without a change in ownership, the void between where they need to be at and where they are at is just way too big to fill.

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo

That's part of the problem but the community itself is to blame as well. We let all types of new immature & shady characters run the site and got away from the traditions & standards that made this site have some grounding in reality. Which comes back to the people at the very top who put the dumbasses in charge and didn't see anything wrong with it

That's definitely another factor. Which is why I resigned from staff. I was overruled when it came to banning people that thought it was acceptable to interfere with people's offline lives.

EDIT:
Punk also has a point. I don't think the staff were dumb asses. Just unmotivated due to a lack of leadership. That leads to bad decisions.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Musashi

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

THIS. And it's what I've been saying for years.

I'll happily pay for Exclusive or any site/service/subscription that offers value. You give a service value by continually improving it. As of right now this site is just an inactive rap battle/hip-hop forum with some rap battling features. Not a rap battling site with a hip-hop forum.

I'm happy with how the new site looks and I have my fingers crossed. But I've seen screenshots of shit that never manifested a few times, so I'm not too hype on the new site yet

And "Don't like it fuck off" is a terrible attitude but its the one that both admins and community members have had. It's a new level of idiocy and incompetence that makes me question if most community members are strung out on drugs

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Musashi

The community is wrong. That right there is one of the biggest causes of LB's downward spiral over the last few months.

The site isn't treated like a business. It's treated like a pet project and you're just lucky they have the goodwill to pay for hosting. Don't like something? Fuck off then. Imagine how long any business would last with that attitude.

THIS. And it's what I've been saying for years.

I'll happily pay for Exclusive or any site/service/subscription that offers value. You give a service value by continually improving it. As of right now this site is just an inactive rap battle/hip-hop forum with some rap battling features. Not a rap battling site with a hip-hop forum.

I'm happy with how the new site looks and I have my fingers crossed. But I've seen screenshots of shit that never manifested a few times, so I'm not too hype on the new site yet

And "Don't like it fuck off" is a terrible attitude but its the one that both admins and community members have had. It's a new level of idiocy and incompetence that makes me question if most community members are strung out on drugs