I dont mean to cause drama, but

[Nerdism]

lol when's the funeral?

[Nerdism]

lol when's the funeral?

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by Nerdism

lol when's the funeral?

You're in it.

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by Nerdism

lol when's the funeral?

You're in it.

@Dirty Work kick Lock from ACs now. That lifelong cheat crew hop faggots name should never be with ACs.

@Dirty Work kick Lock from ACs now. That lifelong cheat crew hop faggots name should never be with ACs.

[Nerdism]

Originally Posted by Shodan

You're in it.

lol I thought so

[Nerdism]

Originally Posted by Shodan

You're in it.

lol I thought so

[Student]

What's with the hostility? Can't we all get along? Am I the only one who doesn't see what the issue is?

Biting (Btw. shorted would bit not bite cause that involves eating imo) anyways, biting IS the blatant taking of someone's work and passing it off as your own. This covers taking complete verses or lines but you know what isn't biting? Using concepts, idioms, mondegreens, spoonerisms, freudian slips, eggcorns, malapropisms, puns, metathesis's, portmanteaus, etc. etc.

Unless you're copying verbatim, the battler still has to put craft the verse together, period.
I equate this to using a rhyming dictionary which if that's illegal we should all have auto-losses because who hasn't used those? Especially if you take this seriously and you want to improve your writing skills. People should be welcome to use whatever tools they want as long as they don't steal or pay someone to write their verse. Plus why would you want to regulate that? People branching off is inherently creative and brings something new to the table. By demonizing this, we're asking people not to have an edge, have resources, try something new. At the end of the day if someone sucks then they suck, doesn't matter how many tools they have at their disposal. (Not directed @Nicholas )



*me when I see an alleged biting thread*

TL;DR I don't think there's an issue with this, I wouldn't issue an autoloss or demod Nix if it were up to me.

[Student]

What's with the hostility? Can't we all get along? Am I the only one who doesn't see what the issue is?

Biting (Btw. shorted would bit not bite cause that involves eating imo) anyways, biting IS the blatant taking of someone's work and passing it off as your own. This covers taking complete verses or lines but you know what isn't biting? Using concepts, idioms, mondegreens, spoonerisms, freudian slips, eggcorns, malapropisms, puns, metathesis's, portmanteaus, etc. etc.

Unless you're copying verbatim, the battler still has to put craft the verse together, period.
I equate this to using a rhyming dictionary which if that's illegal we should all have auto-losses because who hasn't used those? Especially if you take this seriously and you want to improve your writing skills. People should be welcome to use whatever tools they want as long as they don't steal or pay someone to write their verse. Plus why would you want to regulate that? People branching off is inherently creative and brings something new to the table. By demonizing this, we're asking people not to have an edge, have resources, try something new. At the end of the day if someone sucks then they suck, doesn't matter how many tools they have at their disposal. (Not directed @Nicholas )



*me when I see an alleged biting thread*

TL;DR I don't think there's an issue with this, I wouldn't issue an autoloss or demod Nix if it were up to me.

Minus gay gifs, what stu said

Minus gay gifs, what stu said

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Student

Biting (Btw. shorted would bit not bite cause that involves eating imo) anyways, biting IS the blatant taking of someone's work and passing it off as your own. This covers taking complete verses or lines but you know what isn't biting? Using concepts, idioms, mondegreens, spoonerisms, freudian slips, eggcorns, malapropisms, puns, metathesis's, portmanteaus, etc. etc.

Unless you're copying verbatim, the battler still has to put craft the verse together, period.

The way you & bleu put this is really softening my previously unbending opinion on this topic, so dont think this well put stance is going to waste at all- however I think using that in cases like this (Exact wordplay specifically) is being extremely liberal, as then battle rap is as simple as researching the best shit you can either slightly change or just tack a sentence onto a plagiarised crescendo with. That's more research than it is writing-

In a science as exact as wordplay, using another persons EXACT idea with no alterations to their crescendo and then parading it as your own because you referenced it in a cool way is just shady, dishonest bullshit to me- though simply letting a concept inspire you and not riding the coattails of the person who originally had the idea is perfectly fine with me, which basically justifies it in most elements of hiphop other than something as exact as wordplay. Is that better put or still in conflict with your position?

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Student

Biting (Btw. shorted would bit not bite cause that involves eating imo) anyways, biting IS the blatant taking of someone's work and passing it off as your own. This covers taking complete verses or lines but you know what isn't biting? Using concepts, idioms, mondegreens, spoonerisms, freudian slips, eggcorns, malapropisms, puns, metathesis's, portmanteaus, etc. etc.

Unless you're copying verbatim, the battler still has to put craft the verse together, period.

The way you & bleu put this is really softening my previously unbending opinion on this topic, so dont think this well put stance is going to waste at all- however I think using that in cases like this (Exact wordplay specifically) is being extremely liberal, as then battle rap is as simple as researching the best shit you can either slightly change or just tack a sentence onto a plagiarised crescendo with. That's more research than it is writing-

In a science as exact as wordplay, using another persons EXACT idea with no alterations to their crescendo and then parading it as your own because you referenced it in a cool way is just shady, dishonest bullshit to me- though simply letting a concept inspire you and not riding the coattails of the person who originally had the idea is perfectly fine with me, which basically justifies it in most elements of hiphop other than something as exact as wordplay. Is that better put or still in conflict with your position?

[Mindless]

Originally Posted by Babylon

In a science as exact as wordplay

*ahem*





Also, Student is right. That's basically exactly what I said in the staff forum.

[Mindless]

Originally Posted by Babylon

In a science as exact as wordplay

*ahem*





Also, Student is right. That's basically exactly what I said in the staff forum.

Fuck sake Babylon is annoying. You just know he was rubbing his own nipples each time he said "crescendo"

Fuck sake Babylon is annoying. You just know he was rubbing his own nipples each time he said "crescendo"

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Mindless

*ahem*





Also, Student is right. That's basically exactly what I said in the staff forum.

Jesus christ, want me to put it in a more hip way so you dont get suicidal? Wordplay isn't as open ended as any other element you could "accidently" copy.

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Nicholas Bender

Fuck sake Babylon is annoying. You just know he was rubbing his own nipples each time he said "crescendo"

I was rubbing my nipples when i wasn't saying crescendo as well.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Mindless

*ahem*





Also, Student is right. That's basically exactly what I said in the staff forum.

Jesus christ, want me to put it in a more hip way so you dont get suicidal? Wordplay isn't as open ended as any other element you could "accidently" copy.

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Nicholas Bender

Fuck sake Babylon is annoying. You just know he was rubbing his own nipples each time he said "crescendo"

I was rubbing my nipples when i wasn't saying crescendo as well.