Serious Question (Everyone please answer) No games, no trolls.

[Fredo Lombardi]

I rated and gave feedback to many tracks this year and last year. But I can speak on why so many people don't check them out mainly because of people pming members their song links and leaving visitor messeges then when you go on somebody elses page you see the exact same person leaving another link their thinking hell if they keep spamming people page this shit must be whack I aint fucking with it.

[Fredo Lombardi]

I rated and gave feedback to many tracks this year and last year. But I can speak on why so many people don't check them out mainly because of people pming members their song links and leaving visitor messeges then when you go on somebody elses page you see the exact same person leaving another link their thinking hell if they keep spamming people page this shit must be whack I aint fucking with it.

[Dono]

Originally Posted by RULE

Everytime i leave feed on a track by someone ive never heard of, i usually end up with them bitching and moaning in my inbox for about 3 weeks.

Ive said it once, and i'll say it again. 90% of audio heads are delusional and childish. Thats why tracks and audio battles have gone south as of late.

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Brah brah brah bro bro bruv brah brah, I'm almost famous, if I could just get like 10 more people to peep this then.....

9? YO! That's a straight hate rating, oh my god you aint gotta listen to my shit ever again you fuckin asshole, fucking hate hater hater......





Anyway, bullshit aside, I only pass my tracks through a couple of the people I talk to on chat. The feedback in the track section is generally positively inflated to the point that it's absolutely unhelpful in improving. Dope/Garbage are not feedback and neither is a 1-10 point scale.

And everyone knows I never even vote, let alone rate tracks.

[Dono]

Originally Posted by RULE

Everytime i leave feed on a track by someone ive never heard of, i usually end up with them bitching and moaning in my inbox for about 3 weeks.

Ive said it once, and i'll say it again. 90% of audio heads are delusional and childish. Thats why tracks and audio battles have gone south as of late.

1/

Brah brah brah bro bro bruv brah brah, I'm almost famous, if I could just get like 10 more people to peep this then.....

9? YO! That's a straight hate rating, oh my god you aint gotta listen to my shit ever again you fuckin asshole, fucking hate hater hater......





Anyway, bullshit aside, I only pass my tracks through a couple of the people I talk to on chat. The feedback in the track section is generally positively inflated to the point that it's absolutely unhelpful in improving. Dope/Garbage are not feedback and neither is a 1-10 point scale.

And everyone knows I never even vote, let alone rate tracks.

[Mayneak]

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

[Mayneak]

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

[Student]

Originally Posted by Mayneak

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

Co-Sign.

[Student]

Originally Posted by Mayneak

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

Co-Sign.

[Phe]

Originally Posted by Jason

your guy is moving that much at one time hes scared of you? lmaoooooooo

He knows my past so of course..

[Phe]

Originally Posted by Jason

your guy is moving that much at one time hes scared of you? lmaoooooooo

He knows my past so of course..

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Mayneak

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

Ive always agreed that the usertitles should be revoked asap. Still think they dont bring anything to the site.

The tourney schedule has been majorly reduced for the second half of 2012 and the whole of 2013. Its been like 3 months since the last tourney, yet the current 16 man one still cannot draw more than 10+ votes a battle. I dont think the number of tourneys is an issue anymore.

Yeah the staff turnover has been unfortunate, and the audio side isnt brimming with great candidates either. As for the admin powers, its a shame you never got the chance to run with them, but i dont think im anywhere near underserving of them. and given the staff turnover im actually one of the longer serving mods now lol.

The bugs issue is one that should be improving very soon (no bullshit) X has literally just brought in some new programmers to deal with a number of the key issues we have. Time will tell on that score.

Deffly co-sign, we need more battling, less trolling!

The track rating issue is one that stems from the long time misuse of the rankings. I personnaly think a written numerical description on the track and cypher rating pages would help this big time. If you saw a decent yet unspectacular track with: "Yeah this was decent fam. - Mayneak 10 (Perfect)" it just reinforces the value of the rating.

Anyways figured you deserved a better response than just "co-sign" lol

1/

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Mayneak

Here's what i think...I never really spoke out about it until now, read, don't read, I couldn't give two shits...but...

IMO, There are ALOT of reasons why people have become inactive & less involved in the site. I haven't really been active alot but when i was active, it was MUCH more than a forum web-site...The whole direction @Pugz is taking the site reeks nothing less than negativity & a prime example of how to turn something golden (Letsbeef) into something worthless & not "attractive" anymore. If you disagree, speak up.

Few examples: User titles, before, only people that got a custom title were Mods/Admins & Tournament winners. Now, all you have to do is qualify & its granted. I'm looking around here and im seeing members who dunno what a decent punchline is with titles like "Best ever" or some shit like that. I understand your mentality of the site been about the users but that shit shouldn't have escalated.

WAYYYYYYY too many tournaments, no joke but every time i log on there's a new tournament happening, Its like there needs to be a tournament to get some decent battles around here. Im not against getting involved in a tournament but with so many of them, they don;t seem prestigious anymore.

Constant rotation of staff: Pugz never said a word to me when he demoted me, which in itsself is a bad reflection on him and what this site means to him. Apart from Mindless, I was the longest serving staff member. Promised Admin powers, "be patient" was what i got x1000000 times and still nothing. Demoting Ticket & Just C was a bad move too. Nothing against RULE, the work he puts into the site coz he possibly puts in the most or him as an admin, he knows this, but out of the staff, he's one of the "recent" sign-ups to the site and he has admin control. Also the quick judgements to appoint staff members (Speechless & Attikus) is another bad reflection on the "ownership". Also the name colours is wack as hell lol.

Bugs/Glitches: I know how hard it is to get in contact with the right people to fix all the bugs regarding the site but shits gone on for too long. Last time i was in the Mod forum, there was a bugs/glitches list the length of a giraffes neck. Instead of bringing these new tournaments to the site, this should have been sorted a LONG time ago.

Mentality: Right now, Letsbeef IS a forum web-site, not even for getting battles popping, just the usual nonsense of talking complete bullshit. Look at the amount of audio people use it now (Ticket, Swag, Phil e.t.c...). Before you wouldn't get a single audio head in there lol.

Another big flaw with the track section, is people been WAYYYYY too generous with ratings & lack of good, genuine feedback. Its too easy to throw 10 on a track and say "great track, dopeness throughout 10". but real artists want real feedback/breakdowns. When Miqueas was active, he changed the site dramatically with the fair rules he introduced. Honesty is the best policy and all that jazz...obviously not on here.

As far as the tracks, alot of what i said coincides with why people don't use the track section or even bother logging in to Letsbeef...

I feel like im rambling now lol...I know i typed alot but i needed to get that out of the system...

Ive always agreed that the usertitles should be revoked asap. Still think they dont bring anything to the site.

The tourney schedule has been majorly reduced for the second half of 2012 and the whole of 2013. Its been like 3 months since the last tourney, yet the current 16 man one still cannot draw more than 10+ votes a battle. I dont think the number of tourneys is an issue anymore.

Yeah the staff turnover has been unfortunate, and the audio side isnt brimming with great candidates either. As for the admin powers, its a shame you never got the chance to run with them, but i dont think im anywhere near underserving of them. and given the staff turnover im actually one of the longer serving mods now lol.

The bugs issue is one that should be improving very soon (no bullshit) X has literally just brought in some new programmers to deal with a number of the key issues we have. Time will tell on that score.

Deffly co-sign, we need more battling, less trolling!

The track rating issue is one that stems from the long time misuse of the rankings. I personnaly think a written numerical description on the track and cypher rating pages would help this big time. If you saw a decent yet unspectacular track with: "Yeah this was decent fam. - Mayneak 10 (Perfect)" it just reinforces the value of the rating.

Anyways figured you deserved a better response than just "co-sign" lol

1/

[Mayneak]

Originally Posted by RULE

Ive always agreed that the usertitles should be revoked asap. Still think they dont bring anything to the site.

The tourney schedule has been majorly reduced for the second half of 2012 and the whole of 2013. Its been like 3 months since the last tourney, yet the current 16 man one still cannot draw more than 10+ votes a battle. I dont think the number of tourneys is an issue anymore.

Yeah the staff turnover has been unfortunate, and the audio side isnt brimming with great candidates either. As for the admin powers, its a shame you never got the chance to run with them, but i dont think im anywhere near underserving of them. and given the staff turnover im actually one of the longer serving mods now lol.

The bugs issue is one that should be improving very soon (no bullshit) X has literally just brought in some new programmers to deal with a number of the key issues we have. Time will tell on that score.

Deffly co-sign, we need more battling, less trolling!

The track rating issue is one that stems from the long time misuse of the rankings. I personnaly think a written numerical description on the track and cypher rating pages would help this big time. If you saw a decent yet unspectacular track with: "Yeah this was decent fam. - Mayneak 10 (Perfect)" it just reinforces the value of the rating.

Anyways figured you deserved a better response than just "co-sign" lol

1/

Yeah that response was much better than a co-sign lol...I never said you were undeserving, if you re-read it you'll see im actually praising the work you've put into the site...Anybody who doesn't see that needs glasses lol...but yeah...Glad to hear they got some programmers but it'll never get back to the way it was unless theres massive changes & somebody brought in that can run the site a little better...Appreciate the response btw

[Mayneak]

Originally Posted by RULE

Ive always agreed that the usertitles should be revoked asap. Still think they dont bring anything to the site.

The tourney schedule has been majorly reduced for the second half of 2012 and the whole of 2013. Its been like 3 months since the last tourney, yet the current 16 man one still cannot draw more than 10+ votes a battle. I dont think the number of tourneys is an issue anymore.

Yeah the staff turnover has been unfortunate, and the audio side isnt brimming with great candidates either. As for the admin powers, its a shame you never got the chance to run with them, but i dont think im anywhere near underserving of them. and given the staff turnover im actually one of the longer serving mods now lol.

The bugs issue is one that should be improving very soon (no bullshit) X has literally just brought in some new programmers to deal with a number of the key issues we have. Time will tell on that score.

Deffly co-sign, we need more battling, less trolling!

The track rating issue is one that stems from the long time misuse of the rankings. I personnaly think a written numerical description on the track and cypher rating pages would help this big time. If you saw a decent yet unspectacular track with: "Yeah this was decent fam. - Mayneak 10 (Perfect)" it just reinforces the value of the rating.

Anyways figured you deserved a better response than just "co-sign" lol

1/

Yeah that response was much better than a co-sign lol...I never said you were undeserving, if you re-read it you'll see im actually praising the work you've put into the site...Anybody who doesn't see that needs glasses lol...but yeah...Glad to hear they got some programmers but it'll never get back to the way it was unless theres massive changes & somebody brought in that can run the site a little better...Appreciate the response btw

[Revan]

Thanks famoooooo

We never did get that Revan / Mayneak audio in, you still got some bars in you?

Holla!

[Revan]

Thanks famoooooo

We never did get that Revan / Mayneak audio in, you still got some bars in you?

Holla!

[Louie Dawgs]

I battle constantly and I never troll. I'm part of the solution, not the problem.

[Louie Dawgs]

I battle constantly and I never troll. I'm part of the solution, not the problem.

[Godbody]

This all boils down to shitty ownership and straight neglect

We werent happy with FlyHipHop..dunno what was goin through niggas minds...they add user titles and expect us to believe its a whole new site?

Im sayin it now and i say it all the time...this site BEEN needed a facelift like 2 years ago

[Godbody]

This all boils down to shitty ownership and straight neglect

We werent happy with FlyHipHop..dunno what was goin through niggas minds...they add user titles and expect us to believe its a whole new site?

Im sayin it now and i say it all the time...this site BEEN needed a facelift like 2 years ago