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Saying that Wayne is better than Eminem, or that Eminem is better than Wayne, is a matter of taste. In fact, saying that anyone is better than anyone else is by definition a matter of taste, unless we are basing our comparison off of objective criteria. I, personally, don't care about how an artist has degenerated or improved over time, since I choose their best songs to listen to, and I'm only concerned with lyrical ability - their musical prowess or mixing don't really matter to me, unless they are bad enough to distract significantly from the track.

Based on these criteria, I prefer Eminem, because his best songs display a higher level of (what I consider to be) lyrical talent than Wayne's best songs. Of course, not everyone will agree with me on this, so it comes back to personal preference.
What are some examples of Em's lyrical talent?

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You gotta be fuckin kidding me
lol what bars did Em use that are more clever than that?

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You don't listen to em if you think em doesn't use punchlines.
Em has some great punchlines but they're not as lyrical as other rappers. He spits mostly about real life which is cool.

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Wayne makes better music

Eminem is best at the corny technical shit which doesnt mean much when u aint sayin shit
My point exactly. I'm not saying Wayne is good, just that he's lyrically better than Eminem. Eminem has really great flow but like you said, it doesn't mean much if your lyrics are average.

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Lol jeezus

All I've really got to say is Lil' Wayne has been wack since "Like Father, Like Son (2006)" with a very few exceptions and Eminem hasn't. Maybe the singles weren't substance-wise the best but technically and lyrically Eminem has always brought fire. You've got to look at the rest of the album too, don't just judge by the singles.
Where can i check out Em's lyrical fire?

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Eminem's lyrics = telling a story
Lil Wayne's lyrics = like or as
Eminem music = real shit
Lil wayne music = i get high, lollipops, skating, hi i fuck pussi
Kinda disagree. Lil Wayne also raps about real life as well. "Pray to the Lord" is just one example. Wayne can rap about more things that Eminem can't unless he wants to ruin his image.

Really interesting article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-...b_4262955.html

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On the other hand, if Wayne and Em got in a rap battle: Em would OBLITERATE Wayne's career out of this world. There'd be no way Wayne could come to the living after that LOL!
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Saying that Wayne is better than Eminem, or that Eminem is better than Wayne, is a matter of taste. In fact, saying that anyone is better than anyone else is by definition a matter of taste, unless we are basing our comparison off of objective criteria. I, personally, don't care about how an artist has degenerated or improved over time, since I choose their best songs to listen to, and I'm only concerned with lyrical ability - their musical prowess or mixing don't really matter to me, unless they are bad enough to distract significantly from the track.

Based on these criteria, I prefer Eminem, because his best songs display a higher level of (what I consider to be) lyrical talent than Wayne's best songs. Of course, not everyone will agree with me on this, so it comes back to personal preference.
What are some examples of Em's lyrical talent?

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You gotta be fuckin kidding me
lol what bars did Em use that are more clever than that?

---------- Post added at 12:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Punk View Post
You don't listen to em if you think em doesn't use punchlines.
Em has some great punchlines but they're not as lyrical as other rappers. He spits mostly about real life which is cool.

---------- Post added at 12:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Godbody View Post
Wayne makes better music

Eminem is best at the corny technical shit which doesnt mean much when u aint sayin shit
My point exactly. I'm not saying Wayne is good, just that he's lyrically better than Eminem. Eminem has really great flow but like you said, it doesn't mean much if your lyrics are average.

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Lol jeezus

All I've really got to say is Lil' Wayne has been wack since "Like Father, Like Son (2006)" with a very few exceptions and Eminem hasn't. Maybe the singles weren't substance-wise the best but technically and lyrically Eminem has always brought fire. You've got to look at the rest of the album too, don't just judge by the singles.
Where can i check out Em's lyrical fire?

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Eminem's lyrics = telling a story
Lil Wayne's lyrics = like or as
Eminem music = real shit
Lil wayne music = i get high, lollipops, skating, hi i fuck pussi
Kinda disagree. Lil Wayne also raps about real life as well. "Pray to the Lord" is just one example. Wayne can rap about more things that Eminem can't unless he wants to ruin his image.

Really interesting article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-...b_4262955.html

---------- Post added at 12:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 PM ----------

On the other hand, if Wayne and Em got in a rap battle: Em would OBLITERATE Wayne's career out of this world. There'd be no way Wayne could come to the living after that LOL!
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Ya'll keep dissing Wayne but can't bring up any lyrical examples from Eminem.

Wayne bars:

“Automatic leave you dead in the living room!”

“Even though women change/ I will always like dimes”

“If your girl is a veggie/ I put a cucumber on her face”

"Safe sex is great sex Better wear a latex Cuz you dont want that late text that "I think I’m late” text"

“…Real shi* I’m ducking bombs from a drug war/No religion but the cops swear that I’m a drug lord…"

"I’m cooking up 2 quarters, bout 2 get rich or die tryin"

"1-2, 3-way, .44 makes 8….9 times outta 10 it’s an 11 or a 12 gauge…friday the 13th?….that’s the day that hell raise…but ya’ll boys too(two) weak(week)!…like 14 days!"

"This is history in the making
So shut the fu** up and let me make it"

"Above the law but under the influence"
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Ya'll keep dissing Wayne but can't bring up any lyrical examples from Eminem.

Wayne bars:

“Automatic leave you dead in the living room!”

“Even though women change/ I will always like dimes”

“If your girl is a veggie/ I put a cucumber on her face”

"Safe sex is great sex Better wear a latex Cuz you dont want that late text that "I think I’m late” text"

“…Real shi* I’m ducking bombs from a drug war/No religion but the cops swear that I’m a drug lord…"

"I’m cooking up 2 quarters, bout 2 get rich or die tryin"

"1-2, 3-way, .44 makes 8….9 times outta 10 it’s an 11 or a 12 gauge…friday the 13th?….that’s the day that hell raise…but ya’ll boys too(two) weak(week)!…like 14 days!"

"This is history in the making
So shut the fu** up and let me make it"

"Above the law but under the influence"
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heres an Eminem Bar from Not Afraid

"The worlds Gassed up feed it beans"?????

excuse me while i laugh a minute.......


(One minute later)

Ok I'm done
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heres an Eminem Bar from Not Afraid

"The worlds Gassed up feed it beans"?????

excuse me while i laugh a minute.......


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"These other cats and metaphorically where I'm at man. I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said settle ya fuckin' ass down, I'm ready for combat man. Get it, calm batman?" - Eminem

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''My favorite movie is the Gremlins, I just thought that I should mention.'' - Lil Wayne
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"These other cats and metaphorically where I'm at man. I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said settle ya fuckin' ass down, I'm ready for combat man. Get it, calm batman?" - Eminem

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''My favorite movie is the Gremlins, I just thought that I should mention.'' - Lil Wayne
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"These other cats and metaphorically where I'm at man. I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said settle ya fuckin' ass down, I'm ready for combat man. Get it, calm batman?" - Eminem

---------- Post added at 11:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

''My favorite movie is the Gremlins, I just thought that I should mention.'' - Lil Wayne

I was a match made in heaven when hell was a pile of wood - Lil Wayne

Your days are numbered like pages - Eminem

Anyone can do that.
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"These other cats and metaphorically where I'm at man. I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said settle ya fuckin' ass down, I'm ready for combat man. Get it, calm batman?" - Eminem

---------- Post added at 11:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

''My favorite movie is the Gremlins, I just thought that I should mention.'' - Lil Wayne

I was a match made in heaven when hell was a pile of wood - Lil Wayne

Your days are numbered like pages - Eminem

Anyone can do that.
 
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I used to get mad when people didn't realize music taste & personal artist rankings are wholly subjective, now I just post passive aggressive comments in threads that it applies to so that I can convey virtually the same message.
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Your days are numbered like pages - Eminem

Anyone can do that.
I don't think you were catching my bias sarcasm of all the comments.
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Your days are numbered like pages - Eminem

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