What ifs? - Lets Beef

**REZN** · #1 12-11-2019, 04:38 PM

A general thread for what if questions. About anything.

Some examples:

What if God were one of us?

What if I were thin?

What if elements of panpsychism hold merit?

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What if John Lennon hadn't died?

**REZN** · 12-11-2019, 04:38 PM

A general thread for what if questions. About anything.

Some examples:

What if God were one of us?

What if I were thin?

What if elements of panpsychism hold merit?

---------- Post added at 04:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:25 PM ----------

What if John Lennon hadn't died?

**Kiwi Peewee** · #2 12-11-2019, 06:00 PM

What if Lizman became an Admin?

What if everyone on LB was stranded together on a desert island?

What if the chatbox came back?

What if Tito had found a successor?

What if the USA never entered either world war?

What if Eminem had died of an overdose in 2008?

**Kiwi Peewee** · 12-11-2019, 06:00 PM

What if Lizman became an Admin?

What if everyone on LB was stranded together on a desert island?

What if the chatbox came back?

What if Tito had found a successor?

What if the USA never entered either world war?

What if Eminem had died of an overdose in 2008?

**Rai** · #3 12-11-2019, 07:16 PM

Ya know... My wife n I were talking on the way to work this morning. ...

What if God isnt real? I am a firm believer that there is a heaven and hell, God and Satan, but the thing that gets me is, who created God and where did he come from? What did he do before the "dark and void ages" as the bible says.

**Rai** · 12-11-2019, 07:16 PM

Ya know... My wife n I were talking on the way to work this morning. ...

What if God isnt real? I am a firm believer that there is a heaven and hell, God and Satan, but the thing that gets me is, who created God and where did he come from? What did he do before the "dark and void ages" as the bible says.

Q · #4 12-12-2019, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rai

who created God

Man.

Q · 12-12-2019, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rai

who created God

Man.

**O_G** · #5 12-12-2019, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rai

Ya know... My wife n I were talking on the way to work this morning. ...

What if God isnt real? I am a firm believer that there is a heaven and hell, God and Satan, but the thing that gets me is, who created God and where did he come from? What did he do before the "dark and void ages" as the bible says.

Bible never says.he did anything.

God was not created he always was, and thats not even a proper way to put.it

In the bible it says "In the beginning God created"

That means before God created there was no beginning, we wre restricted to time and physicality
God isnt subservient to time

And its easy to prove God

1. Prophecy, and there has been prophecy fulfilled in the last 70 years thats verifiable

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

Another method is Proving satan exists, which is very easy to do, if satan exists, and declares christ his enemy, then you can figure it out from there

Another method is to actually follow Gods COMMANDS on how to communicate with him

Stop sinning, trust in his word.. and you have direct communication, being filled with the holy spirit because you have repented of ALL YOR HABITUAL SIN

People who doubt God are the ones who say "Everyone sins!!!" But never studied the bible daily to prove if thata true because the bible never once saya we all must sin every day until the day we die..

If you want to meet God, stop all sin, and read his.word and you'll meet him very easily

But you think you have hidden sins, smokin weed, cussing, battle rap, masterbating, drinking.. your prayers will not be heard

But too each his own

**O_G** · 12-12-2019, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rai

Ya know... My wife n I were talking on the way to work this morning. ...

What if God isnt real? I am a firm believer that there is a heaven and hell, God and Satan, but the thing that gets me is, who created God and where did he come from? What did he do before the "dark and void ages" as the bible says.

Bible never says.he did anything.

God was not created he always was, and thats not even a proper way to put.it

In the bible it says "In the beginning God created"

That means before God created there was no beginning, we wre restricted to time and physicality
God isnt subservient to time

And its easy to prove God

1. Prophecy, and there has been prophecy fulfilled in the last 70 years thats verifiable

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

Another method is Proving satan exists, which is very easy to do, if satan exists, and declares christ his enemy, then you can figure it out from there

Another method is to actually follow Gods COMMANDS on how to communicate with him

Stop sinning, trust in his word.. and you have direct communication, being filled with the holy spirit because you have repented of ALL YOR HABITUAL SIN

People who doubt God are the ones who say "Everyone sins!!!" But never studied the bible daily to prove if thata true because the bible never once saya we all must sin every day until the day we die..

If you want to meet God, stop all sin, and read his.word and you'll meet him very easily

But you think you have hidden sins, smokin weed, cussing, battle rap, masterbating, drinking.. your prayers will not be heard

But too each his own

**BizzyOne** · #6 12-12-2019, 02:54 PM

So your fully against God? @O_G

**BizzyOne** · 12-12-2019, 02:54 PM

So your fully against God? @O_G

**Aggo** · #7 12-12-2019, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_G

Bible never says.he did anything.

God was not created he always was, and thats not even a proper way to put.it

In the bible it says "In the beginning God created"

That means before God created there was no beginning, we wre restricted to time and physicality
God isnt subservient to time

And its easy to prove God

1. Prophecy, and there has been prophecy fulfilled in the last 70 years thats verifiable

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

Another method is Proving satan exists, which is very easy to do, if satan exists, and declares christ his enemy, then you can figure it out from there

Another method is to actually follow Gods COMMANDS on how to communicate with him

Stop sinning, trust in his word.. and you have direct communication, being filled with the holy spirit because you have repented of ALL YOR HABITUAL SIN

People who doubt God are the ones who say "Everyone sins!!!" But never studied the bible daily to prove if thata true because the bible never once saya we all must sin every day until the day we die..

If you want to meet God, stop all sin, and read his.word and you'll meet him very easily

But you think you have hidden sins, smokin weed, cussing, battle rap, masterbating, drinking.. your prayers will not be heard

But too each his own

The fuck?

**Aggo** · 12-12-2019, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_G

Bible never says.he did anything.

God was not created he always was, and thats not even a proper way to put.it

In the bible it says "In the beginning God created"

That means before God created there was no beginning, we wre restricted to time and physicality
God isnt subservient to time

And its easy to prove God

1. Prophecy, and there has been prophecy fulfilled in the last 70 years thats verifiable

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

Another method is Proving satan exists, which is very easy to do, if satan exists, and declares christ his enemy, then you can figure it out from there

Another method is to actually follow Gods COMMANDS on how to communicate with him

Stop sinning, trust in his word.. and you have direct communication, being filled with the holy spirit because you have repented of ALL YOR HABITUAL SIN

People who doubt God are the ones who say "Everyone sins!!!" But never studied the bible daily to prove if thata true because the bible never once saya we all must sin every day until the day we die..

If you want to meet God, stop all sin, and read his.word and you'll meet him very easily

But you think you have hidden sins, smokin weed, cussing, battle rap, masterbating, drinking.. your prayers will not be heard

But too each his own

The fuck?

**Kiwi Peewee** · #8 12-12-2019, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_G

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

This is quite historically inaccurate but I get your point. However, just because 1 prophecy was fulfilled doesn't prove anything. Mohammed prophesied in the 600s that one day Muslims would take control of Constantinople, one of the greatest Christian cities on Earth. 800 years later, the Ottomans finally took the city, fulfilling the Muslim prophecy. Also, given that Israel was essentially created by people that believe in the Old Testament (US/UK/Zionists) it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I agree with a lot of the stuff you said in your post, but I struggled with this bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by REZN

What if consciousness were a fundamental force in physics?

I'm not sure on the force aspect, but I definitely think it's a physically meaningful property. I don't know as much on the topic as I'd like to, but the observer effect with wave/particle duality springs to mind as a phenomenon where this could be evident? Interested to hear your thoughts (or anyone else's) if this is an area you're into.

**Kiwi Peewee** · 12-12-2019, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_G

The restoration of Israel

For thousands of years it was Palestine and the arabs laughed at the jews and Christians among
The other religions.. if the bibles true where's Israel hahahaha

Isaiah prophesied one day Israel would.become a nation again OVERNIGHT

so everyone laughed

Until may of 1953 i believe, overnite, Palestine becomes Israel fulfilling all the little details down to the T

Thats one example

This is quite historically inaccurate but I get your point. However, just because 1 prophecy was fulfilled doesn't prove anything. Mohammed prophesied in the 600s that one day Muslims would take control of Constantinople, one of the greatest Christian cities on Earth. 800 years later, the Ottomans finally took the city, fulfilling the Muslim prophecy. Also, given that Israel was essentially created by people that believe in the Old Testament (US/UK/Zionists) it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I agree with a lot of the stuff you said in your post, but I struggled with this bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by REZN

What if consciousness were a fundamental force in physics?

I'm not sure on the force aspect, but I definitely think it's a physically meaningful property. I don't know as much on the topic as I'd like to, but the observer effect with wave/particle duality springs to mind as a phenomenon where this could be evident? Interested to hear your thoughts (or anyone else's) if this is an area you're into.