Guests in Hip Hop

[NOBLE]

As some of you may know, during their long-running beef, Lord Jamar referred to Eminem as a "guest in Hip Hop." Eminem himself recently said in an interview that he is a guest in Hip Hop. My question to y'all is: Is Eminem a guest in Hip Hop? What does it mean to be a Hip Hop guest?

[NOBLE]

As some of you may know, during their long-running beef, Lord Jamar referred to Eminem as a "guest in Hip Hop." Eminem himself recently said in an interview that he is a guest in Hip Hop. My question to y'all is: Is Eminem a guest in Hip Hop? What does it mean to be a Hip Hop guest?

Originally Posted by NOBLE

As some of you may know, during their long-running beef, Lord Jamar referred to Eminem as a "guest in Hip Hop." Eminem himself recently said in an interview that he is a guest in Hip Hop. My question to y'all is: Is Eminem a guest in Hip Hop? What does it mean to be a Hip Hop guest?

B-Dot said something very similar to this in his battle with Ooops where he referred to white people as guests in hip-hop, as well. Granted, B-Dot has made his agenda known to anyone who will listen at this point, but I do believe it has some merit.

Eminem saying he’s a guest in hip-hop says all you need to know when he’s still considered amongst the best of all-time. In sports, the best teams have to play road games at times, and this is no different.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

As some of you may know, during their long-running beef, Lord Jamar referred to Eminem as a "guest in Hip Hop." Eminem himself recently said in an interview that he is a guest in Hip Hop. My question to y'all is: Is Eminem a guest in Hip Hop? What does it mean to be a Hip Hop guest?

B-Dot said something very similar to this in his battle with Ooops where he referred to white people as guests in hip-hop, as well. Granted, B-Dot has made his agenda known to anyone who will listen at this point, but I do believe it has some merit.

Eminem saying he’s a guest in hip-hop says all you need to know when he’s still considered amongst the best of all-time. In sports, the best teams have to play road games at times, and this is no different.

[NOBLE]

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

[NOBLE]

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

[The Saaxxx Baba]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

that would make jamar the dumbest bitch ever.

[The Saaxxx Baba]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

that would make jamar the dumbest bitch ever.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

In the only instance that I PERSONALLY have seen it used (B-Dot), that’s exactly what it meant.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

So being a "guest in Hip Hop" has to do with race?

In the only instance that I PERSONALLY have seen it used (B-Dot), that’s exactly what it meant.

[NOBLE]

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

[NOBLE]

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

B-Dot’s probably one of the more polarizing live battlers today for that reason. I’ve only ever seen him battle 1 white guy (stricc), but he mainly battles on KOTD which is ran by a white dude (Organik).

His ideal of being a guest in hip-hop would be like an all-white heavy-metal band saying a black lead singer for a heavy-metal band is a “guest in heavy-metal”. The backlash from that kind of statement would be huge, yet people don’t seem to bat an eye when Lord Jamar says it about Eminem.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

B-Dot’s probably one of the more polarizing live battlers today for that reason. I’ve only ever seen him battle 1 white guy (stricc), but he mainly battles on KOTD which is ran by a white dude (Organik).

His ideal of being a guest in hip-hop would be like an all-white heavy-metal band saying a black lead singer for a heavy-metal band is a “guest in heavy-metal”. The backlash from that kind of statement would be huge, yet people don’t seem to bat an eye when Lord Jamar says it about Eminem.

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

Although I agree with you about Race not being a factor as far as “guest” I have to strongly disagree with you about how hip hop isn’t black music.

Cause it is. Idk what you or most people in this thread are but it comes from black culture. Idc how many American animation studios create good anime... it’s still a JAPANESE art style. I’m all for freedom against race labels but this is where the line is.

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I know that might not be YOU saying that as I realize you’re more so quoting Jamar, but just in case anyone else even implies it isn’t, I just want to make that clear now @NOBLE

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

Then I'd have to disagree. I think someone can be a guest in Hip Hop, but I don't think it has anything to do with race. B-Dot and Lord Jamar probably think of Hip Hop as "black music," and in that sense, they view anyone who isn't black doing Hip Hop as being a guest. I would disagree with that as well.

Although I agree with you about Race not being a factor as far as “guest” I have to strongly disagree with you about how hip hop isn’t black music.

Cause it is. Idk what you or most people in this thread are but it comes from black culture. Idc how many American animation studios create good anime... it’s still a JAPANESE art style. I’m all for freedom against race labels but this is where the line is.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

I know that might not be YOU saying that as I realize you’re more so quoting Jamar, but just in case anyone else even implies it isn’t, I just want to make that clear now @NOBLE

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by GOOD GRIEF

Although I agree with you about Race not being a factor as far as “guest” I have to strongly disagree with you about how hip hop isn’t black music.

Cause it is. Idk what you or most people in this thread are but it comes from black culture. Idc how many American animation studios create good anime... it’s still a JAPANESE art style. I’m all for freedom against race labels but this is where the line is.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

I know that might not be YOU saying that as I realize you’re more so quoting Jamar, but just in case anyone else even implies it isn’t, I just want to make that clear now @NOBLE

I'm black...and I don't see Hip Hop as "black music." If you were to say Hip Hop was black-originated or black-dominated, I may agree with that, but the fact of the matter is...there have ALWAYS been people of other races involved in Hip Hop right from the very beginning, from Puerto Rican B-Boys and graffiti artists to white producers, etc. Hip Hop is global.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by GOOD GRIEF

Although I agree with you about Race not being a factor as far as “guest” I have to strongly disagree with you about how hip hop isn’t black music.

Cause it is. Idk what you or most people in this thread are but it comes from black culture. Idc how many American animation studios create good anime... it’s still a JAPANESE art style. I’m all for freedom against race labels but this is where the line is.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

I know that might not be YOU saying that as I realize you’re more so quoting Jamar, but just in case anyone else even implies it isn’t, I just want to make that clear now @NOBLE

I'm black...and I don't see Hip Hop as "black music." If you were to say Hip Hop was black-originated or black-dominated, I may agree with that, but the fact of the matter is...there have ALWAYS been people of other races involved in Hip Hop right from the very beginning, from Puerto Rican B-Boys and graffiti artists to white producers, etc. Hip Hop is global.

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I'm black...and I don't see Hip Hop as "black music." If you were to say Hip Hop was black-originated or black-dominated, I may agree with that, but the fact of the matter is...there have ALWAYS been people of other races involved in Hip Hop right from the very beginning, from Puerto Rican B-Boys and graffiti artists to white producers, etc. Hip Hop is global.

I get where you’re coming from but I’m against the idea of grouping everything into a global category. It’s black music in the same sense the Boondocks is a black show. Of course everyone enjoys it and white people help make it but... cmon lol. We’re so eager nowadays to not put anything in a category because it doesn’t sound nice. It’s always “you guys this is for everyone, love peace and sharing, go team” but I can’t do that with everything. Can’t black people own anything without having to share credit? I think Eminem is the GOAT personally BUT... hip hop is black music to me. Sorry

[GOOD GRIEF]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I'm black...and I don't see Hip Hop as "black music." If you were to say Hip Hop was black-originated or black-dominated, I may agree with that, but the fact of the matter is...there have ALWAYS been people of other races involved in Hip Hop right from the very beginning, from Puerto Rican B-Boys and graffiti artists to white producers, etc. Hip Hop is global.

I get where you’re coming from but I’m against the idea of grouping everything into a global category. It’s black music in the same sense the Boondocks is a black show. Of course everyone enjoys it and white people help make it but... cmon lol. We’re so eager nowadays to not put anything in a category because it doesn’t sound nice. It’s always “you guys this is for everyone, love peace and sharing, go team” but I can’t do that with everything. Can’t black people own anything without having to share credit? I think Eminem is the GOAT personally BUT... hip hop is black music to me. Sorry