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01-03-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones
If it's presented as a personal. It's a personal. Whether it's true or any part true thats a diff matter. It's all in the wording and presentation. It's not that black and white and involves quirte a few factors.
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So "Just C is a Brazilian Child Molestor" = Personal?
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01-03-2018, 02:28 PM
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If it's presented as a personal. It's a personal. Whether it's true or any part true thats a diff matter. It's all in the wording and presentation. It's not that black and white and involves quirte a few factors.
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So "Just C is a Brazilian Child Molestor" = Personal?
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01-03-2018, 02:31 PM
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"Personal" or not, refuting fax about an active battler can be taken as swaying but I don't think it was that serious. Plus all beef is on "wax", it states that above the text box so it's not meant to be taken srsly.
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"Personal" or not, refuting fax about an active battler can be taken as swaying but I don't think it was that serious. Plus all beef is on "wax", it states that above the text box so it's not meant to be taken srsly.
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Originally Posted by Nicholas
I've had to ban Subreal for swaying on an open battle after I already asked him not too. He's getting heated over what he calls fake personals. I would agree that the statements his opponent made are inaccurate and I know a lot of you despise fake personals however currently they are not against the rules.
I'm a mod I have to enforce the rules as they currently stand. Swaying the result of a battle is against the rules. Fake personals aren't. I want a democratic resolution though and I know some of you are pissed at this.
So, how about together we come to a decision on how to handle fake personals. Should they result in an auto-loss? How would you like us mods to handle them when they happen.
PLEASE do not post about the battle in question or I'll be forced to delete your comment. Keep the discussion to fake personals in general.
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fake personals is a problem especially if the voters automatically feels its true and give the win. Swaying however is against the rules as well so your choice for the ban was accurate. I think battlers should state in the comments if their personals are real or not. If they dont want to do that then auto-loss, its a Win/win because noone wants to say "my passions arent real" in a comment. So using fake personals will end up dying out due to the fact noone will want to state if their personals are real or fake
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01-03-2018, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas
I've had to ban Subreal for swaying on an open battle after I already asked him not too. He's getting heated over what he calls fake personals. I would agree that the statements his opponent made are inaccurate and I know a lot of you despise fake personals however currently they are not against the rules.
I'm a mod I have to enforce the rules as they currently stand. Swaying the result of a battle is against the rules. Fake personals aren't. I want a democratic resolution though and I know some of you are pissed at this.
So, how about together we come to a decision on how to handle fake personals. Should they result in an auto-loss? How would you like us mods to handle them when they happen.
PLEASE do not post about the battle in question or I'll be forced to delete your comment. Keep the discussion to fake personals in general.
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fake personals is a problem especially if the voters automatically feels its true and give the win. Swaying however is against the rules as well so your choice for the ban was accurate. I think battlers should state in the comments if their personals are real or not. If they dont want to do that then auto-loss, its a Win/win because noone wants to say "my passions arent real" in a comment. So using fake personals will end up dying out due to the fact noone will want to state if their personals are real or fake
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So "Just C is a Brazilian Child Molestor" = Personal?
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Not with that wording. And Pls don't ask me lol.
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So "Just C is a Brazilian Child Molestor" = Personal?
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Not with that wording. And Pls don't ask me lol.
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^Streeeetch.. @ DavEtH
Every case has a different situation. It is not all black and white. How many times have you used the word 'faggot' in your lines? Is the person you are battling actually gay?
When it comes to this I guess it is down to common knowledge. EG: Cel found a pic of Rai with a girl and made that punchline. Who knows if it's Rai's actual girl? I wouldn't have assumed that its his girls cousin and would rate the punch based on research and what seems to be evidence that looks persuasive. Now we all know that Rai's a forklift driver. If Daddio said he was a receptionist then I wouldn't rate the line as i know that he isn't.
Very few remember what had happened and what Illmania ACs lost and when Subreal was part ofit and for how long.
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^Streeeetch.. @ DavEtH
Every case has a different situation. It is not all black and white. How many times have you used the word 'faggot' in your lines? Is the person you are battling actually gay?
When it comes to this I guess it is down to common knowledge. EG: Cel found a pic of Rai with a girl and made that punchline. Who knows if it's Rai's actual girl? I wouldn't have assumed that its his girls cousin and would rate the punch based on research and what seems to be evidence that looks persuasive. Now we all know that Rai's a forklift driver. If Daddio said he was a receptionist then I wouldn't rate the line as i know that he isn't.
Very few remember what had happened and what Illmania ACs lost and when Subreal was part ofit and for how long.
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You also have to remember all fake personals (Well hard to say all but you get where I'm going I hope) start with a grain of truth. Rais Illmania ACs Sub. You jyst flat out called me a molester. You COULD work it but your connecting the 2 like they simmilar flat out nonsense . Your Example doest work in that regard Eth
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You also have to remember all fake personals (Well hard to say all but you get where I'm going I hope) start with a grain of truth. Rais Illmania ACs Sub. You jyst flat out called me a molester. You COULD work it but your connecting the 2 like they simmilar flat out nonsense . Your Example doest work in that regard Eth
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This is ridiculous. If someone is telling lies about you that a reasonable person would be expected to believe, you have the right to refute them. That isn't swaying, it's Ethics 101. Why isn't it swaying? Because the person who used the fake personal brought it upon themselves.
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This is ridiculous. If someone is telling lies about you that a reasonable person would be expected to believe, you have the right to refute them. That isn't swaying, it's Ethics 101. Why isn't it swaying? Because the person who used the fake personal brought it upon themselves.
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Originally Posted by Bape
If it's fake, I don't see what the problem is. People are gonna make stuff up in battles just to make their punches more relevant.
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Agree with this.
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If it's fake, I don't see what the problem is. People are gonna make stuff up in battles just to make their punches more relevant.
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Agree with this.
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Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones
You also have to remember all fake personals (Well hard to say all but you get where I'm going I hope) start with a grain of truth. Rais Illmania ACs Sub. You jyst flat out called me a molester. You COULD work it but your connecting the 2 like they simmilar flat out nonsense . Your Example doest work in that regard Eth
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The only truth there is that ACs participated in Illmania. Rai claimed that they lost it and that I was a member lol
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You also have to remember all fake personals (Well hard to say all but you get where I'm going I hope) start with a grain of truth. Rais Illmania ACs Sub. You jyst flat out called me a molester. You COULD work it but your connecting the 2 like they simmilar flat out nonsense . Your Example doest work in that regard Eth
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The only truth there is that ACs participated in Illmania. Rai claimed that they lost it and that I was a member lol
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Nick Literally Called me Out In the Chatbox to Discuss A Personal He Thought Was Fake,While The Battle was Still Going On,and Asked for Proof Of it,and When i Showed him where,(In that Battle ,That He also Commented and Voted On)He Said you Cant Bite Idioms..I felt like he stole the Concept,Directly after seeing it.Which Prompted My Line.
But in that same Battle,He Called Me a Biter of Beats as If i Stole It,or Never Gave Credit to the Sample..Or added Any thing To it,.(which i did,Drums and Horns).
It should be upon the Voters to be able to see through the Bs,and Vote Their way.
MA$E,Told cam He fucked His own sister,He doesn't Have one..Should he have Auto lost?..I just had a guy Tell me ,that he Talks to My Sister Online..Then it Turned to Play Sister who i known since Middle school and the Next Time we Battle He's Going to use it Against me.. (That Person Doesn't exist)Should That Be an Auto Loss?..
Its all Relative
When Joe Budden said.."Everybody's a Killer,But Everybody's alive!"..that changed My perspective on Rap.
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Nick Literally Called me Out In the Chatbox to Discuss A Personal He Thought Was Fake,While The Battle was Still Going On,and Asked for Proof Of it,and When i Showed him where,(In that Battle ,That He also Commented and Voted On)He Said you Cant Bite Idioms..I felt like he stole the Concept,Directly after seeing it.Which Prompted My Line.
But in that same Battle,He Called Me a Biter of Beats as If i Stole It,or Never Gave Credit to the Sample..Or added Any thing To it,.(which i did,Drums and Horns).
It should be upon the Voters to be able to see through the Bs,and Vote Their way.
MA$E,Told cam He fucked His own sister,He doesn't Have one..Should he have Auto lost?..I just had a guy Tell me ,that he Talks to My Sister Online..Then it Turned to Play Sister who i known since Middle school and the Next Time we Battle He's Going to use it Against me.. (That Person Doesn't exist)Should That Be an Auto Loss?..
Its all Relative
When Joe Budden said.."Everybody's a Killer,But Everybody's alive!"..that changed My perspective on Rap.
Last edited by Wes Seneca; 01-04-2018 at 03:32 AM.
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