I dont mean to cause drama, but

[Babylon]

I've stumbled across something quite fishy- and since even the accusee at hand posts threads about this kinda stuff when he finds it, I don't see why I shouldn't follow tradition.

Throughout my time battling I've looked into some of the more complex literary devices, and during this time I read up on Oronyms. An oronym is basically the technical term for wordplay- or a multi-word homophone.
Upon googling this term you can find lists of oronyms, anywhere from "The old drunks beer drips down the drain - the old drunks beard rips down the drain" to more complex ones, I had to explain that because now today in the Monsters Inc group chat, @Shodan posts this about @Nicholas vs @Lockhart


which immediately made me remember oronyms, and struck me with some strong familiarity. After going through two pages on google, the second page listed both the wordplay "Colitis Go By/Kaleidoscope eye" and "Wreck A Nice Beach/Recognize speech." Here is that page- http://www.linguisticsgirl.com/fun-w...glish-oronyms/

So.. uh, awkward?

[Babylon]

I've stumbled across something quite fishy- and since even the accusee at hand posts threads about this kinda stuff when he finds it, I don't see why I shouldn't follow tradition.

Throughout my time battling I've looked into some of the more complex literary devices, and during this time I read up on Oronyms. An oronym is basically the technical term for wordplay- or a multi-word homophone.
Upon googling this term you can find lists of oronyms, anywhere from "The old drunks beer drips down the drain - the old drunks beard rips down the drain" to more complex ones, I had to explain that because now today in the Monsters Inc group chat, @Shodan posts this about @Nicholas vs @Lockhart


which immediately made me remember oronyms, and struck me with some strong familiarity. After going through two pages on google, the second page listed both the wordplay "Colitis Go By/Kaleidoscope eye" and "Wreck A Nice Beach/Recognize speech." Here is that page- http://www.linguisticsgirl.com/fun-w...glish-oronyms/

So.. uh, awkward?

I can only see the colitis goes by wordplay on that page? Which lists a ton of different ones. These threads undermine it when this stuff really happens. I don't know why you didn't air this privately, even if it was to another mod especially when the battle is live.

I can only see the colitis goes by wordplay on that page? Which lists a ton of different ones. These threads undermine it when this stuff really happens. I don't know why you didn't air this privately, even if it was to another mod especially when the battle is live.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

I can only see the colitis goes by wordplay on that page? Which lists a ton of different ones. These threads undermine it when this stuff really happens. I don't know why you didn't air this privately, even if it was to another mod especially when the battle is live.

Here's another page with "its hard to wreck a nice beach/recognize speech." as the second one down.
https://linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1488.html there

These are CLEARLY plagiarised, legitimately no question. Also you had no reservations about calling row out publically with less proof than this, wasn't that also an example of "undermining when this stuff actually happens" ???? and I did it with a live battle because when you bite battles are supposed to be closed & given an autoloss for.

There's not a single argument you can make for doing this with two SEPARATE bars that can both be traced back to oronyms that correspond to the wordplay with ZERO changes- sorry but responding like that just makes this even worse.

You tried plagiarizing in a clever way that wouldn't be found out by instead of biting or changing concepts from a rapper, you did it with a literary device. It was a clever idea, I'll give you that.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

I can only see the colitis goes by wordplay on that page? Which lists a ton of different ones. These threads undermine it when this stuff really happens. I don't know why you didn't air this privately, even if it was to another mod especially when the battle is live.

Here's another page with "its hard to wreck a nice beach/recognize speech." as the second one down.
https://linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1488.html there

These are CLEARLY plagiarised, legitimately no question. Also you had no reservations about calling row out publically with less proof than this, wasn't that also an example of "undermining when this stuff actually happens" ???? and I did it with a live battle because when you bite battles are supposed to be closed & given an autoloss for.

There's not a single argument you can make for doing this with two SEPARATE bars that can both be traced back to oronyms that correspond to the wordplay with ZERO changes- sorry but responding like that just makes this even worse.

You tried plagiarizing in a clever way that wouldn't be found out by instead of biting or changing concepts from a rapper, you did it with a literary device. It was a clever idea, I'll give you that.

Just to highlight how stupid these threads are I checked out your recent battles:

Babylon vs X-Cal
"Cause medics cuttin up ya features;" I CHANGED THE FACE OF THIS SHIT!!! (Cosmetics)

DNA vs Chilla Jones
Conceal a (concealer) mac to blaze you for them stories you make up
Gon' cause medics (cosmetics) to have to save you

Now can we get back to not swaying on active battles?

Just to highlight how stupid these threads are I checked out your recent battles:

Babylon vs X-Cal
"Cause medics cuttin up ya features;" I CHANGED THE FACE OF THIS SHIT!!! (Cosmetics)

DNA vs Chilla Jones
Conceal a (concealer) mac to blaze you for them stories you make up
Gon' cause medics (cosmetics) to have to save you

Now can we get back to not swaying on active battles?

Originally Posted by Babylon

Here's another page with "its hard to wreck a nice beach/recognize speech." as the second one down.
https://linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1488.html there

These are CLEARLY plagiarised, legitimately no question. Also you had no reservations about calling row out publically, and I did it with a live battle because when you bite battles are supposed to be closed & given an autoloss for. There's not an argument you can make for doing this with two SEPARATE bars that can both be traced back to oronyms that correspond to the wordplay with ZERO changes- sorry but responding like that just makes this even worse.

I have no ill feelings towards you Bab but you have me seriously lost as to why you're surprised to find oronyms on other sites on the net. As my example above shows this is repeatable, I found that in the second battle I checked.

Originally Posted by Babylon

Here's another page with "its hard to wreck a nice beach/recognize speech." as the second one down.
https://linguistlist.org/issues/6/6-1488.html there

These are CLEARLY plagiarised, legitimately no question. Also you had no reservations about calling row out publically, and I did it with a live battle because when you bite battles are supposed to be closed & given an autoloss for. There's not an argument you can make for doing this with two SEPARATE bars that can both be traced back to oronyms that correspond to the wordplay with ZERO changes- sorry but responding like that just makes this even worse.

I have no ill feelings towards you Bab but you have me seriously lost as to why you're surprised to find oronyms on other sites on the net. As my example above shows this is repeatable, I found that in the second battle I checked.

[Babylon]

Its funny that your immediate play would be to scour my recent battles to shift the burden, but that my friend is an example of CONCEPTUAL likeness- my bar actually stuck to the theme of cosmetics his bar literally mentioned medics as in HOSPITAL medics (which is why he said "to SAVE you") and then threw in the "concealer" reach. Good try, but yours is proof-positive.

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Originally Posted by Nicholas

I have no ill feelings towards you Bab but you have me seriously lost as to why you're surprised to find oronyms on other sites on the net. As my example above shows this is repeatable, I found that in the second battle I checked.

This is completely impersonal to me, in fact youre one of my favorite personalities here- but why are you acting like I'm surprised at finding oronyms on other sites on the net? I was surprised to find YOU using two oronyms to the T that you can ALSO find on other sites. So far you've used that and the "oh but U did it 2!111" excuses as a way to shift focus, all of these aspects point towards the psychology of a human exhibiting guilt.

[Babylon]

Its funny that your immediate play would be to scour my recent battles to shift the burden, but that my friend is an example of CONCEPTUAL likeness- my bar actually stuck to the theme of cosmetics his bar literally mentioned medics as in HOSPITAL medics (which is why he said "to SAVE you") and then threw in the "concealer" reach. Good try, but yours is proof-positive.

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Originally Posted by Nicholas

I have no ill feelings towards you Bab but you have me seriously lost as to why you're surprised to find oronyms on other sites on the net. As my example above shows this is repeatable, I found that in the second battle I checked.

This is completely impersonal to me, in fact youre one of my favorite personalities here- but why are you acting like I'm surprised at finding oronyms on other sites on the net? I was surprised to find YOU using two oronyms to the T that you can ALSO find on other sites. So far you've used that and the "oh but U did it 2!111" excuses as a way to shift focus, all of these aspects point towards the psychology of a human exhibiting guilt.

looool

looool

[Babylon]

This isnt as simple as "cosmetics" either which is an easy wordplay, go ahead and explain how you thought of both RECOGNIZE SPEECH/WRECK A NICE BEACH and KALEIDOSCOPE EYE/Colitis go by" in the same battle but didnt get any help from oronym lists better yet-

I'm not attempting to muddy this shit up with semantic nonsense, lets simply allow the public to decide if this is really suspicious or not. Surely you have faith in your peers to follow your same logic since you're so innocent?

[Babylon]

This isnt as simple as "cosmetics" either which is an easy wordplay, go ahead and explain how you thought of both RECOGNIZE SPEECH/WRECK A NICE BEACH and KALEIDOSCOPE EYE/Colitis go by" in the same battle but didnt get any help from oronym lists better yet-

I'm not attempting to muddy this shit up with semantic nonsense, lets simply allow the public to decide if this is really suspicious or not. Surely you have faith in your peers to follow your same logic since you're so innocent?

Originally Posted by Babylon

Its funny that your immediate play would be to scour my recent battles to shift the burden, but that my friend is an example of CONCEPTUAL likeness- my bar actually stuck to the theme of cosmetics his bar literally mentioned medics as in HOSPITAL medics (which is why he said "to SAVE you") and then threw in the "concealer" reach. Good try, but yours is proof-positive.

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Who is surprised at finding oronyms on other sites on the net? I was surprised to find you using two oronyms to the T that you can ALSO find on other sites. So far you've used that and the "oh but U did it 2!111" excuses as a way to shift focus, all of these aspects point towards the psychology of a human exhibiting guilt.

OK. Lets take the lists you posted then and run them through Google.

Manny Festo bite the Youth in Asia wordplay from that site too:
my FLOW GOTTA KILL EM and i see it as "euthansia/youth in asia" like some OSAKA CHILDREN!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_...348&section=tb

DooX bite the Toy Yoda wordplay from that site too:
cuz I can 'relieve his bills' when i 'CHOKE' HIS QUEEN and give this kid a 'TOY YODA' FOR FREE while he sees his girl fill THE QUOTA ON ME when i be OWNING HER FACE IS the only way they 'GOIN PLACES'!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...573&section=tb

Subreal also bite the Grade A wordplay from that site:
THUNDER BAYS GAY so I should probably call Bnas 'The Giver' for not making me go through aNOTHER GREY DAY!/Grade A

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=lb&id=645385

EJT bite his Seize Her wordplay from that site too:
This BOSS IS A HAVOC!... He'll be STRESSIN THIS BALLAD Cuz my WESSON IS VALID! && Yer Bitch? I'll 'Seize Her/Ceaser' Like how I'm DRESSIN MY SALAD!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_...466&section=tb


Solid Groundz bite the history wordplay from the same site:
NLY 'jungle' he ever seen ended with 'GYM' so don't claim part of 'His-Story like survin at the PYRAMIDS

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=460452


X-Cal bite the cat shit wordplay from that site too:
I'll hit this "pussy with a shot" like CAT SHIT CAME THREW A FAN

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=499741


Almost every oronym listed brings a result. This is lazy as fuck.

Originally Posted by Babylon

Its funny that your immediate play would be to scour my recent battles to shift the burden, but that my friend is an example of CONCEPTUAL likeness- my bar actually stuck to the theme of cosmetics his bar literally mentioned medics as in HOSPITAL medics (which is why he said "to SAVE you") and then threw in the "concealer" reach. Good try, but yours is proof-positive.

---------- Post added at 06:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:11 PM ----------



Who is surprised at finding oronyms on other sites on the net? I was surprised to find you using two oronyms to the T that you can ALSO find on other sites. So far you've used that and the "oh but U did it 2!111" excuses as a way to shift focus, all of these aspects point towards the psychology of a human exhibiting guilt.

OK. Lets take the lists you posted then and run them through Google.

Manny Festo bite the Youth in Asia wordplay from that site too:
my FLOW GOTTA KILL EM and i see it as "euthansia/youth in asia" like some OSAKA CHILDREN!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_...348&section=tb

DooX bite the Toy Yoda wordplay from that site too:
cuz I can 'relieve his bills' when i 'CHOKE' HIS QUEEN and give this kid a 'TOY YODA' FOR FREE while he sees his girl fill THE QUOTA ON ME when i be OWNING HER FACE IS the only way they 'GOIN PLACES'!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...573&section=tb

Subreal also bite the Grade A wordplay from that site:
THUNDER BAYS GAY so I should probably call Bnas 'The Giver' for not making me go through aNOTHER GREY DAY!/Grade A

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=lb&id=645385

EJT bite his Seize Her wordplay from that site too:
This BOSS IS A HAVOC!... He'll be STRESSIN THIS BALLAD Cuz my WESSON IS VALID! && Yer Bitch? I'll 'Seize Her/Ceaser' Like how I'm DRESSIN MY SALAD!!

https://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_...466&section=tb


Solid Groundz bite the history wordplay from the same site:
NLY 'jungle' he ever seen ended with 'GYM' so don't claim part of 'His-Story like survin at the PYRAMIDS

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=460452


X-Cal bite the cat shit wordplay from that site too:
I'll hit this "pussy with a shot" like CAT SHIT CAME THREW A FAN

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=499741


Almost every oronym listed brings a result. This is lazy as fuck.

Originally Posted by Babylon

I'm not attempting to muddy this shit up with semantic nonsense, lets simply allow the public to decide if this is really suspicious or not. Surely you have faith in your peers to follow your same logic since you're so innocent?

That's fine with me. I just wish we could have done it post-battle.

Originally Posted by Babylon

I'm not attempting to muddy this shit up with semantic nonsense, lets simply allow the public to decide if this is really suspicious or not. Surely you have faith in your peers to follow your same logic since you're so innocent?

That's fine with me. I just wish we could have done it post-battle.