The Drug Education Seminar for Kids (D.E.S.K) Sit behind yours as today

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Subreal

Bro.. crack is just the freebase form of cocaine. Cocaine is the salt form. It's the same thing.

Yes professor Subreal. And ketchup is just processed tomatoes but ketchup is not a fucking tomato, is it?

it is called tomato crack cocaine ketchup because a tomato coke goes into making tomato crack cocaine ketchup but you can't call tomato crack cocaine ketchup a tomato coke, can you?

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Subreal

Bro.. crack is just the freebase form of cocaine. Cocaine is the salt form. It's the same thing.

Yes professor Subreal. And ketchup is just processed tomatoes but ketchup is not a fucking tomato, is it?

it is called tomato crack cocaine ketchup because a tomato coke goes into making tomato crack cocaine ketchup but you can't call tomato crack cocaine ketchup a tomato coke, can you?

[Subreal]

Originally Posted by Just C

Yes professor Subreal. And ketchup is just processed tomatoes but ketchup is not a fucking tomato, is it?

it is called tomato crack ketchup because tomato coke goes into making tomato crack ketchup but you can't call tomato crack ketchup a tomato coke, can you?

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

[Subreal]

Originally Posted by Just C

Yes professor Subreal. And ketchup is just processed tomatoes but ketchup is not a fucking tomato, is it?

it is called tomato crack ketchup because tomato coke goes into making tomato crack ketchup but you can't call tomato crack ketchup a tomato coke, can you?

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

[J u s T C]

Crack has other ingredients too and the effect of crack/taste of ketchup is different than the effect of coke/taste of a tomato.

ketchup is no tomato. crack is not coke.

[J u s T C]

Crack has other ingredients too and the effect of crack/taste of ketchup is different than the effect of coke/taste of a tomato.

ketchup is no tomato. crack is not coke.

[Subreal]

Originally Posted by Just C

Crack has other ingredients too and the effect of crack/taste of ketchup is different than the effect of coke/taste of a tomato.

ketchup is no tomato. crack is not coke.

It's why crack is cheaper than cocaine. Crack has a purity % like in breaking bad with Meth lol. It's probably like 75-90% or some shit, because people add shit to crack like baking soda, hence why it is cheaper. Crack isn't pure Cocaine.

[Subreal]

Originally Posted by Just C

Crack has other ingredients too and the effect of crack/taste of ketchup is different than the effect of coke/taste of a tomato.

ketchup is no tomato. crack is not coke.

It's why crack is cheaper than cocaine. Crack has a purity % like in breaking bad with Meth lol. It's probably like 75-90% or some shit, because people add shit to crack like baking soda, hence why it is cheaper. Crack isn't pure Cocaine.

What the fuck is a donna kebab?

What the fuck is a donna kebab?

[J u s T C]

I love how people are skirting around the very obvious analogy's

A tomato is cheaper than a bottle of ketchup but they are not the same, so what's your point?

every time you say something the same rules apply with what I fire back.

You know I'm right. Just because something goes into making something else doesn't make it the same because if they were the same there would be no need in making that other thing in the first place. I wouldn't mind if it was just price. then I would agree but the effects are different.

The effects. That's what it boils down to, whether you like it or not. a punch in the gut is not is not a knuckle sandwich just because you used your knuckles. The administered method is different as are the effects.

[J u s T C]

I love how people are skirting around the very obvious analogy's

A tomato is cheaper than a bottle of ketchup but they are not the same, so what's your point?

every time you say something the same rules apply with what I fire back.

You know I'm right. Just because something goes into making something else doesn't make it the same because if they were the same there would be no need in making that other thing in the first place. I wouldn't mind if it was just price. then I would agree but the effects are different.

The effects. That's what it boils down to, whether you like it or not. a punch in the gut is not is not a knuckle sandwich just because you used your knuckles. The administered method is different as are the effects.

[J u s T C]

It's like saying kung fu and karate are the same thing because they require hands and feet.

Rugby and American football are the same because they require the same pig skin shaped ball

Netball and basket ball are the same thing because they require a hoop

Fencing and pirates sword fighting are the same because they both require swords.


THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

[J u s T C]

It's like saying kung fu and karate are the same thing because they require hands and feet.

Rugby and American football are the same because they require the same pig skin shaped ball

Netball and basket ball are the same thing because they require a hoop

Fencing and pirates sword fighting are the same because they both require swords.


THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

[The Dope Man]

@Just C have you done both crack and cocaine to know the difference between effects? my friends tell me its basically the same except smoking obviously hits you faster & doesnt last as long.

I do oxys. Sometimes i sniff them, sometimes i smoke them. The effects are slightly different (not much) but its still the same chemical going into my body ----same with crack/cocaine.

Now, if you told me from personal experience that the effects are different then we wouldnt be arguing. Smoking crack/snortin coke either way its the same chemical being abused...#FACT

If you took a drug test and you've been smoking crack, your doctor wouldnt be able to tell if you been smoking crack or snorting coke.

BUT, If you ate a Big Mac without a burger your doctor would be able to tell (if he examined your stomach) that you didnt eat a burger. Same with ketchup/tomatoe.

[The Dope Man]

@Just C have you done both crack and cocaine to know the difference between effects? my friends tell me its basically the same except smoking obviously hits you faster & doesnt last as long.

I do oxys. Sometimes i sniff them, sometimes i smoke them. The effects are slightly different (not much) but its still the same chemical going into my body ----same with crack/cocaine.

Now, if you told me from personal experience that the effects are different then we wouldnt be arguing. Smoking crack/snortin coke either way its the same chemical being abused...#FACT

If you took a drug test and you've been smoking crack, your doctor wouldnt be able to tell if you been smoking crack or snorting coke.

BUT, If you ate a Big Mac without a burger your doctor would be able to tell (if he examined your stomach) that you didnt eat a burger. Same with ketchup/tomatoe.

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

@Tha Dope Man ,

AGREED. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong about anything except how the two substances are viewed differently as far as criminality.... which I now see I misinterpreted your post about what the government calls the substances as oppose to how they are regulated.

Just trying to put in my 2 cents.... Clearly this thread has a lot of miscommunication involved.

I definitely agree, as I posted previously, both have the same active ingredient that effects the same neurochemicals (dopamine receptors in various parts of the brain I believe? might want to double check... sometimes norepinephrine is involved, but that might be more for methamphetamine ).

NOW, I do agree with @Just C in his comment that the ingestion method changes the drug effects and physiological response, but I was more interested in how egregiously different these substances are treated as far as sentencing despite the fact that they are so related in sharing the active ingredient.

Luckily, Obama passed the 2010 Act (I posted wiki link), which I highly suggest reading about for one's own personal understanding of drug politics in America.

REHAB NOW! (don't punish users, help them)

-FREAK-

---------- Post added at 01:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Subreal

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

This argument is funny, but I have to say that both Cocaine and Crack are often cut, and still described with those names despite the impurities.... but that is going into a discussion about how users refer to quality. With meth, there are words like 'glass' that describe the clearer, less cut products. With coke and crack its more of a free for all of descriptions and words like 'pure' 'raw' .... yadda yadda yadda....

Why are we talking about crack again?

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

@Tha Dope Man ,

AGREED. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong about anything except how the two substances are viewed differently as far as criminality.... which I now see I misinterpreted your post about what the government calls the substances as oppose to how they are regulated.

Just trying to put in my 2 cents.... Clearly this thread has a lot of miscommunication involved.

I definitely agree, as I posted previously, both have the same active ingredient that effects the same neurochemicals (dopamine receptors in various parts of the brain I believe? might want to double check... sometimes norepinephrine is involved, but that might be more for methamphetamine ).

NOW, I do agree with @Just C in his comment that the ingestion method changes the drug effects and physiological response, but I was more interested in how egregiously different these substances are treated as far as sentencing despite the fact that they are so related in sharing the active ingredient.

Luckily, Obama passed the 2010 Act (I posted wiki link), which I highly suggest reading about for one's own personal understanding of drug politics in America.

REHAB NOW! (don't punish users, help them)

-FREAK-

---------- Post added at 01:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Subreal

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

This argument is funny, but I have to say that both Cocaine and Crack are often cut, and still described with those names despite the impurities.... but that is going into a discussion about how users refer to quality. With meth, there are words like 'glass' that describe the clearer, less cut products. With coke and crack its more of a free for all of descriptions and words like 'pure' 'raw' .... yadda yadda yadda....

Why are we talking about crack again?

How the fuck is crack and coke the same thing? That's like saying a joint is a cigarette because they both use rolling paper.

How the fuck is crack and coke the same thing? That's like saying a joint is a cigarette because they both use rolling paper.