Sacrifice

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eth you know me, i just put bullshitters in there place, if u say something i dont like, ill put it on blast. come on now son how do you figure you being poor for 6 months makes it so you can give an indefinate answer to the question for people who've actually lived in the projects. explain your reasoning for your obnoxious answer and why you tryed to make it where the discussion was ended simply with your response, like theres no questioning it, you must be right? explain.

[-Jibberish]

eth you know me, i just put bullshitters in there place, if u say something i dont like, ill put it on blast. come on now son how do you figure you being poor for 6 months makes it so you can give an indefinate answer to the question for people who've actually lived in the projects. explain your reasoning for your obnoxious answer and why you tryed to make it where the discussion was ended simply with your response, like theres no questioning it, you must be right? explain.

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Enfinite ∞

I would probably say no in these given scenarios. But, I would give my life to save that of another. Like in a robbery or something, I wouldn't have a problem taking a shell to the chest.

i thought I was crazy....

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Enfinite ∞

I would probably say no in these given scenarios. But, I would give my life to save that of another. Like in a robbery or something, I wouldn't have a problem taking a shell to the chest.

i thought I was crazy....

[-Jibberish]

i wouldnt do shit to save someone outside my immediate fam and even some of them can get it too lol

[-Jibberish]

i wouldnt do shit to save someone outside my immediate fam and even some of them can get it too lol

[-Jibberish]

what kind of life is it to grow up in the projects, its a trap. almost rare to see someone get out of there, why blow the chance to move your bloodline out of that shit for good. would you rather live to see your unnourished children struggle or would you take one for the team and get them the fuck outta there to somewhere they can prosper.

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sleep on it, dont be to quick to judge it.

[-Jibberish]

what kind of life is it to grow up in the projects, its a trap. almost rare to see someone get out of there, why blow the chance to move your bloodline out of that shit for good. would you rather live to see your unnourished children struggle or would you take one for the team and get them the fuck outta there to somewhere they can prosper.

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sleep on it, dont be to quick to judge it.

[IV]

Originally Posted by hulKK

those of you saying no...

if your child was raped, would you kill the person that did it...even if it would mean life in jail?

in that scenario you dont even get assurance that they are good...

That 5 year old girl got raped in Texas and her Dad killed the rapist and walked out of court a free man, got nothing for it.

[IV]

Originally Posted by hulKK

those of you saying no...

if your child was raped, would you kill the person that did it...even if it would mean life in jail?

in that scenario you dont even get assurance that they are good...

That 5 year old girl got raped in Texas and her Dad killed the rapist and walked out of court a free man, got nothing for it.

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by -Jibberish

what kind of life is it to grow up in the projects, its a trap. almost rare to see someone get out of there, why blow the chance to move your bloodline out of that shit for good. would you rather live to see your unnourished children struggle or would you take one for the team and get them the fuck outta there to somewhere they can prosper.

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sleep on it, dont be to quick to judge it.

stop it yo...you being too real for them

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by -Jibberish

what kind of life is it to grow up in the projects, its a trap. almost rare to see someone get out of there, why blow the chance to move your bloodline out of that shit for good. would you rather live to see your unnourished children struggle or would you take one for the team and get them the fuck outta there to somewhere they can prosper.

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sleep on it, dont be to quick to judge it.

stop it yo...you being too real for them

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Dave

My children wouldnt be "caught in the struggle". It's not something you get caught in, it's a lapse of judgement. You're not intelliegent enough to see that you're stuck in a loop. You're 17 and you're living in the projects? Ahhhh, of course, drug dealing, that's the way out of this. What? You got arrested? Now you can't get a job? Ahhh, of course, drug dealing, that's the way out of this.

People aren't held down by the govenment or given unfair oppertunities. It's up to us to make our oppertunities. You live in the projects and have no money? There are people who want to be an actor so bad that they move to California and live out of their car. You have a roof over your head, you've already got more than they do. There are plenty of companies that will allow someone to work for free to get some experience. Don't buy stupid "hood" clothes, dress smart and whether you're black, white or whatever The Rock is, you'll be allowed to gain that work experience. What next? You have no criminal record cause you werent stupid enough to start drug dealing, you have work experience from a reputable company...now you can get yourself a job.

Some people don't want to go through this process, and that's their decision, but when it comes down to 'the struggle', they have no one to blame but themselves. I currently have no job, get €41 on welfare a week, no college degree, low leaving cert (or whatever the American thing is, SAT?) results and am living at home. I can't get a job anywhere because I have no experience. How many people claim "the government is keeping them down" in the exact same situations? Instead, I'm on my 3rd course, on my way to earning a high enough level cert as a Microsoft Master (gay name) and will be able to get into college on Back to Education Allowance when I turn 21. It's all about your outlook and if you want to sit around and complain that you're caught in the struggle, or if you want to get up and change your situation.

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*Watches A Time To Kill*

this theory doesnt take into account human nature at all...where the grey in your black and white statements, Eth?

do you speak this from a position of experience even?

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Dave

My children wouldnt be "caught in the struggle". It's not something you get caught in, it's a lapse of judgement. You're not intelliegent enough to see that you're stuck in a loop. You're 17 and you're living in the projects? Ahhhh, of course, drug dealing, that's the way out of this. What? You got arrested? Now you can't get a job? Ahhh, of course, drug dealing, that's the way out of this.

People aren't held down by the govenment or given unfair oppertunities. It's up to us to make our oppertunities. You live in the projects and have no money? There are people who want to be an actor so bad that they move to California and live out of their car. You have a roof over your head, you've already got more than they do. There are plenty of companies that will allow someone to work for free to get some experience. Don't buy stupid "hood" clothes, dress smart and whether you're black, white or whatever The Rock is, you'll be allowed to gain that work experience. What next? You have no criminal record cause you werent stupid enough to start drug dealing, you have work experience from a reputable company...now you can get yourself a job.

Some people don't want to go through this process, and that's their decision, but when it comes down to 'the struggle', they have no one to blame but themselves. I currently have no job, get €41 on welfare a week, no college degree, low leaving cert (or whatever the American thing is, SAT?) results and am living at home. I can't get a job anywhere because I have no experience. How many people claim "the government is keeping them down" in the exact same situations? Instead, I'm on my 3rd course, on my way to earning a high enough level cert as a Microsoft Master (gay name) and will be able to get into college on Back to Education Allowance when I turn 21. It's all about your outlook and if you want to sit around and complain that you're caught in the struggle, or if you want to get up and change your situation.

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*Watches A Time To Kill*

this theory doesnt take into account human nature at all...where the grey in your black and white statements, Eth?

do you speak this from a position of experience even?

[IV]

I actually have a very close friend who happens to be American, his brother and father got killed in America so him and his Mum moved to London. After about 6 years-ish his Mum actually killed herself, he got a fortune through insurance because stress from her previous job got the blame, and he's the most fucked up person, deep down, I've ever known. He gave all the money away because he hates the thought of that amount of money being seen as the amount his Mum was worth, he works and he copes and he's normal really, but I know what he'd rather have.... Maybe the fact he had no family left makes it a bad comparison to the original scenario though.

It's reaction to put family first and do whatever it takes to provide for your kids and wife, for good fathers anyway, but what YOU think is best as the primary provider, isn't always the best option.

[IV]

I actually have a very close friend who happens to be American, his brother and father got killed in America so him and his Mum moved to London. After about 6 years-ish his Mum actually killed herself, he got a fortune through insurance because stress from her previous job got the blame, and he's the most fucked up person, deep down, I've ever known. He gave all the money away because he hates the thought of that amount of money being seen as the amount his Mum was worth, he works and he copes and he's normal really, but I know what he'd rather have.... Maybe the fact he had no family left makes it a bad comparison to the original scenario though.

It's reaction to put family first and do whatever it takes to provide for your kids and wife, for good fathers anyway, but what YOU think is best as the primary provider, isn't always the best option.

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Dave

You asked a question. If I replied with a grey area answer like "It depends" then it wouldnt be much of a conversation. I mean if someone has no arms or legs, and he was once framed for welfare fraud and he doesnt receive any benifits, then you can't really blame him for not being able to provide for himself and his family, but I'm talking the general scenario.

You can clame that the 'system' is keeping you down, or you can try to get up.

or i can wonder why it is i have to 'try' to 'get up' in the first place.

[Krhyme Killz]

Originally Posted by Dave

You asked a question. If I replied with a grey area answer like "It depends" then it wouldnt be much of a conversation. I mean if someone has no arms or legs, and he was once framed for welfare fraud and he doesnt receive any benifits, then you can't really blame him for not being able to provide for himself and his family, but I'm talking the general scenario.

You can clame that the 'system' is keeping you down, or you can try to get up.

or i can wonder why it is i have to 'try' to 'get up' in the first place.

[Krhyme Killz]

i didnt say spend my whole life doing that..but i can assure you that it would effect a young and impressionable mind

[Krhyme Killz]

i didnt say spend my whole life doing that..but i can assure you that it would effect a young and impressionable mind