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View Poll Results: LB audio title Top 10 contenders (pick 10)
Ticket 18 66.67%
Afterthought 7 25.93%
Noble 1 3.70%
Da kidd ferno 17 62.96%
Doc t 14 51.85%
-Oskar- 0 0%
Blnk 3 11.11%
Hulkk 19 70.37%
Fiji OSA 6 22.22%
Dono 7 25.93%
Swags 4 14.81%
Fuel 1 3.70%
Damosth8ed 5 18.52%
Black pat 0 0%
Souperb 6 22.22%
Ohs 4 14.81%
Talcsick 0 0%
You wish 19 70.37%
John j 3 11.11%
Kos 1 3.70%
Revan 11 40.74%
Danger rich 18 66.67%
Skiit 6 22.22%
Whut 0 0%
Haz 15 55.56%
Ill phenom 1 3.70%
Stb the messiah 2 7.41%
Spotty pimpin 13 48.15%
Slypro 4 14.81%
Gurp 10 37.04%
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  #31  
Unread 07-14-2012, 03:40 AM
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72 Won / 9 Lost
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@RULE me an Haz battling Sunday dude... did you tell him shit was cancelled?? If so thats 2 battles in a row i've written for nothing an the last one im writing for this shit.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 03:40 AM   #31
 
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72 Won / 9 Lost
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@RULE me an Haz battling Sunday dude... did you tell him shit was cancelled?? If so thats 2 battles in a row i've written for nothing an the last one im writing for this shit.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Revan Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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@RULE me an Haz battling Sunday dude... did you tell him shit was cancelled?? If so thats 2 battles in a row i've written for nothing an the last one im writing for this shit.
The Haz battle is for the title. This poll is for the contenders afterwards. You and Haz has been confirmed so its not being broken now.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 12:21 PM   #32
 
Revan Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Revan is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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@RULE me an Haz battling Sunday dude... did you tell him shit was cancelled?? If so thats 2 battles in a row i've written for nothing an the last one im writing for this shit.
The Haz battle is for the title. This poll is for the contenders afterwards. You and Haz has been confirmed so its not being broken now.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 01:23 PM
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ok he was pm'in me on some shit like u said it wasnt going down... ok cool he sposed to send tommorow sometime
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Unread 07-14-2012, 01:23 PM   #33
 
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ok he was pm'in me on some shit like u said it wasnt going down... ok cool he sposed to send tommorow sometime
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Unread 07-14-2012, 01:56 PM
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Yeah i never called it off at any point.

Looking forward to a 50+ vote battle tbh.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 01:56 PM   #34
 
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Yeah i never called it off at any point.

Looking forward to a 50+ vote battle tbh.
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Unread 07-15-2012, 08:37 PM
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35 Won / 33 Lost
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206 Won / 138 Lost
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poll got me laughin
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poll got me laughin
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281 Won / 5 Lost
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Polls turned out pretty much exactly how I thought it would
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Polls turned out pretty much exactly how I thought it would
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Unread 07-15-2012, 09:04 PM
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62 Won / 1 Lost
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75 Won / 24 Lost
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Yeah. Seems legit to me with only 1 or 2 who should be higher but aren't due to inactivity. Do think Oh's should be a little higher up though.
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3 Won / 4 Lost
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306 Won / 112 Lost
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9 Won / 7 Lost
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Is there somthing good im missing about this Haz kid? (I know im not really one to talk on the audio side but...) Seriously, someone please let me know...
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