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It’s funny how OP’s like “y’all vote too low on ratings” but I see one of his battles has “TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF” as the opening multi.
I’m not rating a verse with TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF at a 7 or above. Sorry. Not happening.
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It’s funny how OP’s like “y’all vote too low on ratings” but I see one of his battles has “TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF” as the opening multi.
I’m not rating a verse with TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF at a 7 or above. Sorry. Not happening.
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If I had it my way, voting would be simplified. There wouldn't be ratings. There wouldn't be a single "who won." There would be some boxes to check. Maybe 5? One for multis/rhyming, one for punchlines, one for wordplay, one for entertainment and one for flow. You check the box for the battler you think did better on that particular criteria. When you're done, that decides your vote. No expos on votes, no ratings and a crystal clear reason why someone beat you. If everyone votes the other guy better on wordplay, you'd know to work on wordplay. Just a dumb idea that will never be implemented but there it is.
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If I had it my way, voting would be simplified. There wouldn't be ratings. There wouldn't be a single "who won." There would be some boxes to check. Maybe 5? One for multis/rhyming, one for punchlines, one for wordplay, one for entertainment and one for flow. You check the box for the battler you think did better on that particular criteria. When you're done, that decides your vote. No expos on votes, no ratings and a crystal clear reason why someone beat you. If everyone votes the other guy better on wordplay, you'd know to work on wordplay. Just a dumb idea that will never be implemented but there it is.
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If I had it my way, voting would be simplified. There wouldn't be ratings. There wouldn't be a single "who won." There would be some boxes to check. Maybe 5? One for multis/rhyming, one for punchlines, one for wordplay, one for entertainment and one for flow. You check the box for the battler you think did better on that particular criteria. When you're done, that decides your vote. No expos on votes, no ratings and a crystal clear reason why someone beat you. If everyone votes the other guy better on wordplay, you'd know to work on wordplay. Just a dumb idea that will never be implemented but there it is.
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Tbh the site should be open to all new voting ideas being that it's been the same since the beginning.
Maybe one that doesnt last 3 days..
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Originally Posted by Brayne Ded
If I had it my way, voting would be simplified. There wouldn't be ratings. There wouldn't be a single "who won." There would be some boxes to check. Maybe 5? One for multis/rhyming, one for punchlines, one for wordplay, one for entertainment and one for flow. You check the box for the battler you think did better on that particular criteria. When you're done, that decides your vote. No expos on votes, no ratings and a crystal clear reason why someone beat you. If everyone votes the other guy better on wordplay, you'd know to work on wordplay. Just a dumb idea that will never be implemented but there it is.
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Tbh the site should be open to all new voting ideas being that it's been the same since the beginning.
Maybe one that doesnt last 3 days..
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I’m not gonna get involved arguing on how voting should work, cos I think Brayne was right in that people will never be happy. But this is how I vote:
I do everything I can to be as objective as possible with who won. I know that I am subconsciously swayed by titles and reputation, but I have voted against people like Rieper a few times after careful consideration even when other people voted for them so I think I’m reasonably good on that front.
As far as ratings go, I think a 5 should be an average verse. If your verse is around the average quality on the site, that’s when I’ll give it a 5. I generally determine a 5 to be a verse that rhymes well and makes sense but lacks actual punchlines, or that has punches but terrible readability. My ratings from 1-10 try to follow a Normal Distribution with 5 as the mean. That means there’s quite a few 4s and 6s, but fewer 3s and 7s, very few 2s and 8s; 1s, 9s and 10s are extremely rare, and from memory I only dropped two dimes across both previous GCs. That being said, I will give higher ratings for 32s (or 64s) because of the extra work and effort going into them.
But yeah, don’t expect people to hand out 8s, 9s and 10s for an 8 or 16 with a couple of basic punches and some broken multis. There are people in this thread that I think are justified with many of their complaints, but there are also some that need a reality check.
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I’m not gonna get involved arguing on how voting should work, cos I think Brayne was right in that people will never be happy. But this is how I vote:
I do everything I can to be as objective as possible with who won. I know that I am subconsciously swayed by titles and reputation, but I have voted against people like Rieper a few times after careful consideration even when other people voted for them so I think I’m reasonably good on that front.
As far as ratings go, I think a 5 should be an average verse. If your verse is around the average quality on the site, that’s when I’ll give it a 5. I generally determine a 5 to be a verse that rhymes well and makes sense but lacks actual punchlines, or that has punches but terrible readability. My ratings from 1-10 try to follow a Normal Distribution with 5 as the mean. That means there’s quite a few 4s and 6s, but fewer 3s and 7s, very few 2s and 8s; 1s, 9s and 10s are extremely rare, and from memory I only dropped two dimes across both previous GCs. That being said, I will give higher ratings for 32s (or 64s) because of the extra work and effort going into them.
But yeah, don’t expect people to hand out 8s, 9s and 10s for an 8 or 16 with a couple of basic punches and some broken multis. There are people in this thread that I think are justified with many of their complaints, but there are also some that need a reality check.
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You literally just showed your ass dawg. The only people that would be offended by my post are the people that feel entitled.And yes, your battle is a clear example. There’s not a single person on here that can say “Saiyan doesn’t justify or explain his votes.”
I always have. And I’ve never been afraid to vote against someone even if they’re years better than their opponent...
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Just because you explain your vote doesn’t mean it’s got any sort of knowledge or acumen behind it.
And Lmao....showed my ass how? You came up in here saying such and such happens all the time without citing any examples whatsoever. Two other people commented before me asking you to elaborate. You coming in here claiming that people vote a certain way because of bias IMMEDIATELY after you found out you were the only person that voted your way on a battle is hilarious. Your post pretty much echoed your breakdown. What you said is basically that Caked Out, 2Fuel, Saxx and others aren’t voting for the best verse but instead are brainwashed and/or biased because they didn’t agree with you.
If you’re going to condemn people, name names. Don’t be a little sissy. Say the shit from jump instead of ‘your battle was an example’ after I call you out for beating around the bush.
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You literally just showed your ass dawg. The only people that would be offended by my post are the people that feel entitled.And yes, your battle is a clear example. There’s not a single person on here that can say “Saiyan doesn’t justify or explain his votes.”
I always have. And I’ve never been afraid to vote against someone even if they’re years better than their opponent...
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Just because you explain your vote doesn’t mean it’s got any sort of knowledge or acumen behind it.
And Lmao....showed my ass how? You came up in here saying such and such happens all the time without citing any examples whatsoever. Two other people commented before me asking you to elaborate. You coming in here claiming that people vote a certain way because of bias IMMEDIATELY after you found out you were the only person that voted your way on a battle is hilarious. Your post pretty much echoed your breakdown. What you said is basically that Caked Out, 2Fuel, Saxx and others aren’t voting for the best verse but instead are brainwashed and/or biased because they didn’t agree with you.
If you’re going to condemn people, name names. Don’t be a little sissy. Say the shit from jump instead of ‘your battle was an example’ after I call you out for beating around the bush.
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Just because you explain your vote doesn’t mean it’s got any sort of knowledge or acumen behind it.
And Lmao....showed my ass how? You came up in here saying such and such happens all the time without citing any examples whatsoever. Two other people commented before me asking you to elaborate. You coming in here claiming that people vote a certain way because of bias IMMEDIATELY after you found out you were the only person that voted your way on a battle is hilarious. Your post pretty much echoed your breakdown. What you said is basically that Caked Out, 2Fuel, Saxx and others aren’t voting for the best verse but instead are brainwashed and/or biased because they didn’t agree with you.
If you’re going to condemn people, name names. Don’t be a little sissy. Say the shit from jump instead of ‘your battle was an example’ after I call you out for beating around the bush.
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Unlike you and everybody else, I don’t hijack threads and name drop. Someone made a thread and I added my opinion. I don’t recall anyone demanding names from the thread starter, so don’t demand shit from me. Now, go back and sit on your cute high horse sir. You don’t belong down here with the snakes
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Just because you explain your vote doesn’t mean it’s got any sort of knowledge or acumen behind it.
And Lmao....showed my ass how? You came up in here saying such and such happens all the time without citing any examples whatsoever. Two other people commented before me asking you to elaborate. You coming in here claiming that people vote a certain way because of bias IMMEDIATELY after you found out you were the only person that voted your way on a battle is hilarious. Your post pretty much echoed your breakdown. What you said is basically that Caked Out, 2Fuel, Saxx and others aren’t voting for the best verse but instead are brainwashed and/or biased because they didn’t agree with you.
If you’re going to condemn people, name names. Don’t be a little sissy. Say the shit from jump instead of ‘your battle was an example’ after I call you out for beating around the bush.
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Unlike you and everybody else, I don’t hijack threads and name drop. Someone made a thread and I added my opinion. I don’t recall anyone demanding names from the thread starter, so don’t demand shit from me. Now, go back and sit on your cute high horse sir. You don’t belong down here with the snakes
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Unlike you and everybody else, I don’t hijack threads and name drop. Someone made a thread and I added my opinion. I don’t recall anyone demanding names from the thread starter, so don’t demand shit from me. Now, go back and sit on your cute high horse sir. You don’t belong down here with the snakes
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You’re accusing reputable voters of intentionally voting in a biased fashion because they didn’t agree with you. Mentioning their names isn’t name dropping, it is the respectful and straightforward thing to do. Calling people biased because they don’t share your opinion yet telling me to get off my high horse...that’s hilarious.
When you’re the only one who feels a certain way but still think everyone else is fucked up, it’s usually time to look in the mirror.
Now, go back to hiding in the grass where you belong....snake.
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Unlike you and everybody else, I don’t hijack threads and name drop. Someone made a thread and I added my opinion. I don’t recall anyone demanding names from the thread starter, so don’t demand shit from me. Now, go back and sit on your cute high horse sir. You don’t belong down here with the snakes
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You’re accusing reputable voters of intentionally voting in a biased fashion because they didn’t agree with you. Mentioning their names isn’t name dropping, it is the respectful and straightforward thing to do. Calling people biased because they don’t share your opinion yet telling me to get off my high horse...that’s hilarious.
When you’re the only one who feels a certain way but still think everyone else is fucked up, it’s usually time to look in the mirror.
Now, go back to hiding in the grass where you belong....snake.
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These threads are hilarious. Usually (not always) because they're started by people who drop garbage ass verses.
During January I voted on literally almost every battle, text and audio, I missed maybe a handful at most. I can confirm that 99% of the battles in both arenas are complete asscheeks. I'm not gonna just start handing out dimes just because someone can actually string a sentence together or use more than 3 syllable rhymes.
There's some super dope dudes on here with silky smooth rhyming dropping crazy hot punchlines. If you're dropping 1 syllable rhymes, horridly forced multis, basic ass punches and just in general saying nonsense like TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF, you are about 100 leagues below these top dudes. So since they're 8-10s most of the time, that's how you get 4-6s. Step your shit up and quit bitching.
I think oldheads also need a fucking wake up call that shit has changed and no one is impressed with corny and forced wordplays and humongous reaches disguised as punches. Either get with the times or shut the fuck up. Take a look at thesaurus in live battling. One of the longest active battlers. Is he stll battling the same way he was battling back in 2005? Of course not, he'd be getting fucking smoked, and he knows that. You're delusional if you think a style from 10 years ago should be able to instantly translate to today's battle rap scene.
As for the overall voting on the site. What else can be done? Most of the dude's bitching are people who don't even fucking vote. If a battle ends with 4 votes and 3 of them are shit, what can really be done? Go out and recruit more educated people to join LB to vote? Listen, we have who we have here. The main vets of this community know more than any other community I've seen what constitutes good and bad battle rap bars. (And yeah, that IS different from what a good or bad RAP bar is, if we wanna go there too.) I'm sick and tired of all this bitching about voting. UNLESS your battle legit ended up with 3 troll/noob votes that fucked you over in a battle you clearly won...if the crowd collectively says you lost, you lost.
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These threads are hilarious. Usually (not always) because they're started by people who drop garbage ass verses.
During January I voted on literally almost every battle, text and audio, I missed maybe a handful at most. I can confirm that 99% of the battles in both arenas are complete asscheeks. I'm not gonna just start handing out dimes just because someone can actually string a sentence together or use more than 3 syllable rhymes.
There's some super dope dudes on here with silky smooth rhyming dropping crazy hot punchlines. If you're dropping 1 syllable rhymes, horridly forced multis, basic ass punches and just in general saying nonsense like TESTICLE COUCH SNIFF, you are about 100 leagues below these top dudes. So since they're 8-10s most of the time, that's how you get 4-6s. Step your shit up and quit bitching.
I think oldheads also need a fucking wake up call that shit has changed and no one is impressed with corny and forced wordplays and humongous reaches disguised as punches. Either get with the times or shut the fuck up. Take a look at thesaurus in live battling. One of the longest active battlers. Is he stll battling the same way he was battling back in 2005? Of course not, he'd be getting fucking smoked, and he knows that. You're delusional if you think a style from 10 years ago should be able to instantly translate to today's battle rap scene.
As for the overall voting on the site. What else can be done? Most of the dude's bitching are people who don't even fucking vote. If a battle ends with 4 votes and 3 of them are shit, what can really be done? Go out and recruit more educated people to join LB to vote? Listen, we have who we have here. The main vets of this community know more than any other community I've seen what constitutes good and bad battle rap bars. (And yeah, that IS different from what a good or bad RAP bar is, if we wanna go there too.) I'm sick and tired of all this bitching about voting. UNLESS your battle legit ended up with 3 troll/noob votes that fucked you over in a battle you clearly won...if the crowd collectively says you lost, you lost.
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