The MainStream Vs The UnderGround.

[NOBLE]

Mainstream versus underground doesn't necessarily have anything to do with content. It's not so much about what kind of beats they use, what they rap about, the way they dress, or if they use autotune. The MAIN demarcation between mainstream and underground is commercial success. People get mainstream/underground confused with conscious/non-conscious music. Just because somebody is "underground" doesn't necessarily mean they are conscious, and vice versa, just because somebody is mainstream doesn't necessarily mean they are unconscious.

You've had conscious artists like Nas or Kendrick Lamar who have had mainstream commercial success. Likewise, there are underground artists who spit gangsta rap, mumble rap, or whatever is the latest mainstream craze. They just haven't had success with it, which is why they remain underground.

Conscious/non-conscious isn't so much about content either but rather purpose. For example, when NWA came out, they pretty much introduced the genre of gangsta rap. However, they were doing it more from a "news reporter" perspective, letting listeners know what goes on in the hood. After they became popular and gangsta rap took off, other people who chose to do gangsta rap did so primarily for commercial purposes, because it sells and they think that's what people want to hear. So you can have two people both spitting gangsta rap, but one may be considered "conscious" and the other non-conscious.

Whatever style of rap you make, if you do so with originality in not trying to copy anybody or what's supposed to be popular or what will sell, but rather with a purpose to be true to yourself and your community, then you're being conscious. If you are rapping strictly to make money or to try to "make it" or you are otherwise fabricating things that you have never lived, then you are being non-conscious.

[NOBLE]

Mainstream versus underground doesn't necessarily have anything to do with content. It's not so much about what kind of beats they use, what they rap about, the way they dress, or if they use autotune. The MAIN demarcation between mainstream and underground is commercial success. People get mainstream/underground confused with conscious/non-conscious music. Just because somebody is "underground" doesn't necessarily mean they are conscious, and vice versa, just because somebody is mainstream doesn't necessarily mean they are unconscious.

You've had conscious artists like Nas or Kendrick Lamar who have had mainstream commercial success. Likewise, there are underground artists who spit gangsta rap, mumble rap, or whatever is the latest mainstream craze. They just haven't had success with it, which is why they remain underground.

Conscious/non-conscious isn't so much about content either but rather purpose. For example, when NWA came out, they pretty much introduced the genre of gangsta rap. However, they were doing it more from a "news reporter" perspective, letting listeners know what goes on in the hood. After they became popular and gangsta rap took off, other people who chose to do gangsta rap did so primarily for commercial purposes, because it sells and they think that's what people want to hear. So you can have two people both spitting gangsta rap, but one may be considered "conscious" and the other non-conscious.

Whatever style of rap you make, if you do so with originality in not trying to copy anybody or what's supposed to be popular or what will sell, but rather with a purpose to be true to yourself and your community, then you're being conscious. If you are rapping strictly to make money or to try to "make it" or you are otherwise fabricating things that you have never lived, then you are being non-conscious.

[Student]

Originally Posted by Punk

LB considers Lil Peep a punk/hip hop/singer, and Tekashi 6ix9ine (all he does is scream) mumble rappers. You have to be grade A retarded like @Student to not know what MUMBLE rap is.

I don't want to know bruh, I'm cool without knowing the difference, either way it's fucking garbo

[Student]

Originally Posted by Punk

LB considers Lil Peep a punk/hip hop/singer, and Tekashi 6ix9ine (all he does is scream) mumble rappers. You have to be grade A retarded like @Student to not know what MUMBLE rap is.

I don't want to know bruh, I'm cool without knowing the difference, either way it's fucking garbo

[Barzooka]

Originally Posted by Student

I don't want to know bruh, I'm cool without knowing the difference, either way it's fucking garbo

Who are some of your favorite artists?

[Barzooka]

Originally Posted by Student

I don't want to know bruh, I'm cool without knowing the difference, either way it's fucking garbo

Who are some of your favorite artists?

Originally Posted by 2 Gucci

Who are some of your favorite artists?

Iggy Azalea

Originally Posted by 2 Gucci

Who are some of your favorite artists?

Iggy Azalea

[Student]

Originally Posted by 2 Gucci

Who are some of your favorite artists?

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

[Student]

Originally Posted by 2 Gucci

Who are some of your favorite artists?

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

Originally Posted by Student

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

You left out Iggy, bitch

Originally Posted by Student

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

You left out Iggy, bitch

[Student]

Originally Posted by Punk

Iggy Azalea

Nah, I just appreciate the gifs:

[Student]

Originally Posted by Punk

Iggy Azalea

Nah, I just appreciate the gifs:

[Barzooka]

Originally Posted by Student

Nah, I just appreciate the gifs:

Iggy is so fucking hot tho...

---------- Post added at 07:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:51 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Student

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

I like Logic.

[Barzooka]

Originally Posted by Student

Nah, I just appreciate the gifs:

Iggy is so fucking hot tho...

---------- Post added at 07:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:51 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Student

With music I'm all over the place, if we're just talking Hip-Hop the first names that come up would be: Childish Gambino, Jay-Z, Kanye West (College Dropout - Yeezus), K•Dot, Logic, J. Cole, Drizzy, Kid Cudi, etc. to name a few.

Underground would be: JMT (AOTP), Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Grieves, Brother Ali, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Tech, Demigodz, Outerspace, etc.

I grew up on 90's music sprinkled in with late 50's - 60's soul & R&B, early 60's-80's Rock and 80's-2000's Pop so it was a lot of variety.

I like Logic.

Good post @NOBLE getting to the point I suppose. Thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by Punk

You left out Iggy, bitch

Ayo dudes, Iggy is an Aussie, however she changes her voice (her accent) to sound american... in Aussie Hip Hop (which I'll post some tracks here so ya dudes can peep em) changing your accent to sound american or even style is like one of the fakes or wack things you can do, according to the Aussie Hip Hop scene.

Iggy may make you horny shaking her Aussie butt around but check it, her music ain't that dope imo. (We can discuss female rappers/MC's if you guys want aswell)

On the first page of this thread I posted two Aussie Hip Hop songs by an artist named WOMBAT whos pretty nice wid it but here is some more tracks.. from the land down under peace!!

SOME AUSSIE HIP HOP TRACKS

KOORI REP - The Reply Part.1 (TKO & RAYPITT DISS)

360 - Price Of Fame ft Gossling

BodyTheBooth ep.4 - HUSKii

WOMBAT - GASSED UP

TKO - FTP

Pistol Pete & Enzo ft. TKO, That Kid Kearve - WHATYAGONDOLAD (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

TKO , RAYPITT - WEEKDAYS

Fortay - Syncity (ft Candice Rhind)

Bliss N Eso - Addicted

Good post @NOBLE getting to the point I suppose. Thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by Punk

You left out Iggy, bitch

Ayo dudes, Iggy is an Aussie, however she changes her voice (her accent) to sound american... in Aussie Hip Hop (which I'll post some tracks here so ya dudes can peep em) changing your accent to sound american or even style is like one of the fakes or wack things you can do, according to the Aussie Hip Hop scene.

Iggy may make you horny shaking her Aussie butt around but check it, her music ain't that dope imo. (We can discuss female rappers/MC's if you guys want aswell)

On the first page of this thread I posted two Aussie Hip Hop songs by an artist named WOMBAT whos pretty nice wid it but here is some more tracks.. from the land down under peace!!

SOME AUSSIE HIP HOP TRACKS

KOORI REP - The Reply Part.1 (TKO & RAYPITT DISS)

360 - Price Of Fame ft Gossling

BodyTheBooth ep.4 - HUSKii

WOMBAT - GASSED UP

TKO - FTP

Pistol Pete & Enzo ft. TKO, That Kid Kearve - WHATYAGONDOLAD (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

TKO , RAYPITT - WEEKDAYS

Fortay - Syncity (ft Candice Rhind)

Bliss N Eso - Addicted

[Barzooka]

Would still fuck Izz like a Kangaroo js

[Barzooka]

Would still fuck Izz like a Kangaroo js