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Where have you seen me being pro-reparations from people whose family benefited from owning slaves? I don't remember that.
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09-10-2017, 02:24 AM
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Where have you seen me being pro-reparations from people whose family benefited from owning slaves? I don't remember that.
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Country's don't even exist they are a made up concept, there may be lines on the map separating country's but in reality if you go there, theres no lines... so its just more delusional thinking by humans, this world is full of illusions people think are real, people even go to war an fight over these fake make believe country's, my goodness! did dinosaurs say "oh hey man im from iceland or hey dude yeah im from japan" no.. no other species does this but humans, It's all just land the same land on a planet in space.
However this is what humanity is dealing with atm, i understand that the world elite cabal wanted to just have no borders (keep them but not really you know) an bring alot of ISIS / people to destabilize the usa in and then call big security on usa's ass for there "own protection" but Trump seems to have messed up there plans or something like that, but idk really what trump is doing right now i don't follow the news any more really i just hear bits an pieces here an there.
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Country's don't even exist they are a made up concept, there may be lines on the map separating country's but in reality if you go there, theres no lines... so its just more delusional thinking by humans, this world is full of illusions people think are real, people even go to war an fight over these fake make believe country's, my goodness! did dinosaurs say "oh hey man im from iceland or hey dude yeah im from japan" no.. no other species does this but humans, It's all just land the same land on a planet in space.
However this is what humanity is dealing with atm, i understand that the world elite cabal wanted to just have no borders (keep them but not really you know) an bring alot of ISIS / people to destabilize the usa in and then call big security on usa's ass for there "own protection" but Trump seems to have messed up there plans or something like that, but idk really what trump is doing right now i don't follow the news any more really i just hear bits an pieces here an there.
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SuperGuy, true to an extent. But if you want to minimize the example, you'd flip your fucking shit if someone walked in your front door. Despite the fact that your house being "your space" is a social construct, you feel you have jurisdiction over what does and doesn't happen within it, and more relevantly, who gets access to it and with which permisions.
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SuperGuy, true to an extent. But if you want to minimize the example, you'd flip your fucking shit if someone walked in your front door. Despite the fact that your house being "your space" is a social construct, you feel you have jurisdiction over what does and doesn't happen within it, and more relevantly, who gets access to it and with which permisions.
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09-11-2017, 06:13 PM
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Humans are animals....communities, cities, countries etc are just the same as herds, flocks, etc. Instead of pissing on trees to mark territory, we draw lines on a map. Of course countries exist....its just the evolution of those two basic concepts. If Dinosaurs knew establishing territories and coexisting in larger groups would allow them to further prosper, damn right theyd be saying "Im from Japan". Humans did that shit and have tripled to quadrupled their lifespans in the process while Im sure a fucking canary or squirrel still lives the same amount of time they did 2000 years ago.
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Humans are animals....communities, cities, countries etc are just the same as herds, flocks, etc. Instead of pissing on trees to mark territory, we draw lines on a map. Of course countries exist....its just the evolution of those two basic concepts. If Dinosaurs knew establishing territories and coexisting in larger groups would allow them to further prosper, damn right theyd be saying "Im from Japan". Humans did that shit and have tripled to quadrupled their lifespans in the process while Im sure a fucking canary or squirrel still lives the same amount of time they did 2000 years ago.
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09-11-2017, 06:28 PM
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The thing about humans is that throughout our entire existence, we've developed everything in our society, technology and everyday lives to make things easier for ourselves.
Like I've argued at extent with anarchists, people who believe that the world would serve better without governments and rules/regulations and that people would work together for the common good.
My analogy is simple:
Someone rapes and kills a girl. This person must be found and held accountable. There is no government, no police, no taxes and no prisons.
The man flees town. A group of people from the community agree to track him down. As the community is self sufficient, these people have jobs. In not being able to feed their families when they are gone, they need some form of income. So all of the people pitch in a little bit of money so that these people can go off and provide this service and their families can be looked after. They finally get the guy after a long journey. There is unrest over simply killing the man, so they decide to keep him secured until they can decide a fitting punishment. Instead of deciding themselves, they ask the opinion of the people in the community, getting them to vote. None of them are comfortable with physical harm, so they decide to keep the man secured and limit his freedoms as punishment. The people who chased after the man realize this may happen again, and they feel that they should be better prepared for next time. As a community, they decide that these people will undergo training and be provided with the appropriate equipment, resources and provisions to do this service.
Boom, you've just created taxes, a legal system, a prison system and a police force. The more of these things you add in, the more people will want a select group to be in charge to offload the stress to the regular members of the community. Done, government.
Countries, governments, it all exists because of two things; humans want to make life easy for themselves, and humans are greedy.
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The thing about humans is that throughout our entire existence, we've developed everything in our society, technology and everyday lives to make things easier for ourselves.
Like I've argued at extent with anarchists, people who believe that the world would serve better without governments and rules/regulations and that people would work together for the common good.
My analogy is simple:
Someone rapes and kills a girl. This person must be found and held accountable. There is no government, no police, no taxes and no prisons.
The man flees town. A group of people from the community agree to track him down. As the community is self sufficient, these people have jobs. In not being able to feed their families when they are gone, they need some form of income. So all of the people pitch in a little bit of money so that these people can go off and provide this service and their families can be looked after. They finally get the guy after a long journey. There is unrest over simply killing the man, so they decide to keep him secured until they can decide a fitting punishment. Instead of deciding themselves, they ask the opinion of the people in the community, getting them to vote. None of them are comfortable with physical harm, so they decide to keep the man secured and limit his freedoms as punishment. The people who chased after the man realize this may happen again, and they feel that they should be better prepared for next time. As a community, they decide that these people will undergo training and be provided with the appropriate equipment, resources and provisions to do this service.
Boom, you've just created taxes, a legal system, a prison system and a police force. The more of these things you add in, the more people will want a select group to be in charge to offload the stress to the regular members of the community. Done, government.
Countries, governments, it all exists because of two things; humans want to make life easy for themselves, and humans are greedy.
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09-11-2017, 06:37 PM
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Greed and making things easier on yourself all falls in line with the only thing that governs a human being's thinking.....self preservation.
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Greed and making things easier on yourself all falls in line with the only thing that governs a human being's thinking.....self preservation.
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ok so animals have territory, but country's are still not real, we don't own the land we are guests to this land.
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ok so animals have territory, but country's are still not real, we don't own the land we are guests to this land.
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ok so animals have territory, but country's are still not real, we don't own the land we are guests to this land.
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Animals simply can't name their territory. Your logic means that all possession must be theoretical. An interesting point, but again mooted by your anger at someone who would walk in your front door and tell you that you a merely a guest on the land.
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ok so animals have territory, but country's are still not real, we don't own the land we are guests to this land.
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Animals simply can't name their territory. Your logic means that all possession must be theoretical. An interesting point, but again mooted by your anger at someone who would walk in your front door and tell you that you a merely a guest on the land.
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Yea brother fuck the money, cars and accessories the only thing we take to our grave is our memories.
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Yea brother fuck the money, cars and accessories the only thing we take to our grave is our memories.
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I've drawn 1 conclusion from this thead and that is that superguy is superstupid.
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I've drawn 1 conclusion from this thead and that is that superguy is superstupid.
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