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  #11  
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Riveting stuff. You should seriously consider writing for What Culture, you could have your own little slideshow and everything.

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I fucking knew it! I was thinking he said that track was fire way back as I was posting.

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Riveting stuff. You should seriously consider writing for What Culture, you could have your own little slideshow and everything.

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I've done shit like that.

You actually watch those slideshows? lol That's genius of them. I used to work with people doing similar bullshit click bait articles with slideshows and ads all over the page for some conversions and easy $
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I've done shit like that.

You actually watch those slideshows? lol That's genius of them. I used to work with people doing similar bullshit click bait articles with slideshows and ads all over the page for some conversions and easy $
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Yeah. Their good toilet reads. Not all of them are click bait though. Danger Rich does his WWF shit on a similar type of site and he drops knowledge and "did you knows"

But yeah a lot of them are click bait.. a bit like a certain thread on a certain rap battle website *cough*
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Yeah. Their good toilet reads. Not all of them are click bait though. Danger Rich does his WWF shit on a similar type of site and he drops knowledge and "did you knows"

But yeah a lot of them are click bait.. a bit like a certain thread on a certain rap battle website *cough*
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How you say YOU put him at number 1... Then say he's overrated
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Um no.. That's actually called contradiction
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Um no.. That's actually called contradiction
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he is overrated: FACT. Just because I said he's overrated, in which he is, doesn't change the FACT that he's STILL #1 on my list, basically stating that that can change. I think he's the best of all-time: OPINION. Don't get me wrong, my FAVORITE rapper is Ludacris just for the funny factor I felt he mastered far before Em did. But stating the fact that he is overrated given the fact that I'm not the only person in the world who ranks him at #1 all-time, isn't contradicting the fact that he's still #1 on my list, which is MY OPINION.
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he is overrated: FACT. Just because I said he's overrated, in which he is, doesn't change the FACT that he's STILL #1 on my list, basically stating that that can change. I think he's the best of all-time: OPINION. Don't get me wrong, my FAVORITE rapper is Ludacris just for the funny factor I felt he mastered far before Em did. But stating the fact that he is overrated given the fact that I'm not the only person in the world who ranks him at #1 all-time, isn't contradicting the fact that he's still #1 on my list, which is MY OPINION.
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Wonk's taking a L right now.
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Wonk's taking a L right now.
 
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1) Nobody relates to the dumb shit he says
2) No SOUL in his music
3) that Subliminal criminal in your swimming pool shit means he understands the mechanics of putting rhymes together...which is cool. that's 1 little aspect of RAP.. RHYTHM AND POETRY... good for Eminem, he's an above average multi syllabic rhymer and he makes sure we notice it.
4) hasn't had a really good concept song since Stan
5) he's a try hard faggot... Rap God isn't all that impressive..anyone with a basic understanding of multis & insane breath control/linguistic abilities would put Rap God to shame (Mac Lethal, for example)
6) speaking of breath control n things of that sort... Eminem's flow is trash. this nigga reaches 80% of the time to create a flow that isnt there

bla bla bla rhyme/
bla bla bla rhyme/

OMFG ROFL Thats your argument? I could find people with 100 more reasons as to why he is the best but that would be stupid as your clearly just hating.
^ THATS how rhymes should be...shit should sound natural and we should know when everything rhymes. Eminem's such a try hard multi syllabic rapper that he doesnt know how to properly flow because he's so caught up in trying to be a complex rapper that understands the technicalities of rhyme and not a real emcee

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Fuck it I'll bite....

1)Most of Eminems fans and "normal people nit into rap relate to his music....thats a lot of people
2)Its not africa mombapajaba music?
3) Most of his new stuff is like this and its dope...listen harder
4)Bad guy?
5)Someone can spit better n faster tjan emimem? Wow! Lets see them sell millions
6) Cant believe you actually said Eminem can't flow LOL
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The first track on the shadyxv is why I think eminem is goat tbh...Dope song.
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1) Nobody relates to the dumb shit he says
2) No SOUL in his music
3) that Subliminal criminal in your swimming pool shit means he understands the mechanics of putting rhymes together...which is cool. that's 1 little aspect of RAP.. RHYTHM AND POETRY... good for Eminem, he's an above average multi syllabic rhymer and he makes sure we notice it.
4) hasn't had a really good concept song since Stan
5) he's a try hard faggot... Rap God isn't all that impressive..anyone with a basic understanding of multis & insane breath control/linguistic abilities would put Rap God to shame (Mac Lethal, for example)
6) speaking of breath control n things of that sort... Eminem's flow is trash. this nigga reaches 80% of the time to create a flow that isnt there

bla bla bla rhyme/
bla bla bla rhyme/

OMFG ROFL Thats your argument? I could find people with 100 more reasons as to why he is the best but that would be stupid as your clearly just hating.
^ THATS how rhymes should be...shit should sound natural and we should know when everything rhymes. Eminem's such a try hard multi syllabic rapper that he doesnt know how to properly flow because he's so caught up in trying to be a complex rapper that understands the technicalities of rhyme and not a real emcee

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Fuck it I'll bite....

1)Most of Eminems fans and "normal people nit into rap relate to his music....thats a lot of people
2)Its not africa mombapajaba music?
3) Most of his new stuff is like this and its dope...listen harder
4)Bad guy?
5)Someone can spit better n faster tjan emimem? Wow! Lets see them sell millions
6) Cant believe you actually said Eminem can't flow LOL
6)

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The first track on the shadyxv is why I think eminem is goat tbh...Dope song.
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Just because you can rap fast doesn't mean you're nice. Eminem is, but I'm just sayin, and take that shit off your sig, i was bullshitting.
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Just because you can rap fast doesn't mean you're nice. Eminem is, but I'm just sayin, and take that shit off your sig, i was bullshitting.
 
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