Atheism is as bad for humanity as traditional religion

[UhMAZING]

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

Um, No. I don't believe in "God" so you can't say because I don't believe that's acknowledgment. I acknowledge that I don't believe in any "Higher Power" or anything that's beyond our minds grasp. So by saying I don't believe, I'm NOT subsequently saying I do believe in "God" I could say "THERE IS NO GOD" proving I don't believe...but like I said, a person has the right to their own beliefs, and the right to NOT have someone push or force their Beliefs on someone else...so for all you Christians and what not...you can still believe there is a "God" I myself, Don't think, or believe there is one.

Good Day.

[UhMAZING]

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

Um, No. I don't believe in "God" so you can't say because I don't believe that's acknowledgment. I acknowledge that I don't believe in any "Higher Power" or anything that's beyond our minds grasp. So by saying I don't believe, I'm NOT subsequently saying I do believe in "God" I could say "THERE IS NO GOD" proving I don't believe...but like I said, a person has the right to their own beliefs, and the right to NOT have someone push or force their Beliefs on someone else...so for all you Christians and what not...you can still believe there is a "God" I myself, Don't think, or believe there is one.

Good Day.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

Meh, that's pretty stupid logic but;

I don't think all religions are bad, I think religions can be amazing. So if atheism was a religion I wouldn't mind, as long as they promote free thought & secularism I'm fine with it. I don't know why people get so butthurt when Atheism is called a religion, there are religions that don't have dogma and are pretty amazing.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

Meh, that's pretty stupid logic but;

I don't think all religions are bad, I think religions can be amazing. So if atheism was a religion I wouldn't mind, as long as they promote free thought & secularism I'm fine with it. I don't know why people get so butthurt when Atheism is called a religion, there are religions that don't have dogma and are pretty amazing.

Don't be talking about Islam if you don't know anything about it, SMH

Don't be talking about Islam if you don't know anything about it, SMH

Originally Posted by UhMAZING

Um, No. I don't believe in "God" so you can't say because I don't believe that's acknowledgment. I acknowledge that I don't believe in any "Higher Power" or anything that's beyond our minds grasp. So by saying I don't believe, I'm NOT subsequently saying I do believe in "God" I could say "THERE IS NO GOD" proving I don't believe...but like I said, a person has the right to their own beliefs, and the right to NOT have someone push or force their Beliefs on someone else...so for all you Christians and what not...you can still believe there is a "God" I myself, Don't think, or believe there is one.

Good Day.

In your disbelief of God, do you not acknowledge that God is an idea created by man? Is to acknowledge God as an idea not the belief in God as that, an idea? Is the belief in God as an idea thought up by man, not the belief in God?

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Originally Posted by Crysis

Meh, that's pretty stupid logic but;

I don't think all religions are bad, I think religions can be amazing. So if atheism was a religion I wouldn't mind, as long as they promote free thought & secularism I'm fine with it. I don't know why people get so butthurt when Atheism is called a religion, there are religions that don't have dogma and are pretty amazing.

Is it?

Originally Posted by UhMAZING

Um, No. I don't believe in "God" so you can't say because I don't believe that's acknowledgment. I acknowledge that I don't believe in any "Higher Power" or anything that's beyond our minds grasp. So by saying I don't believe, I'm NOT subsequently saying I do believe in "God" I could say "THERE IS NO GOD" proving I don't believe...but like I said, a person has the right to their own beliefs, and the right to NOT have someone push or force their Beliefs on someone else...so for all you Christians and what not...you can still believe there is a "God" I myself, Don't think, or believe there is one.

Good Day.

In your disbelief of God, do you not acknowledge that God is an idea created by man? Is to acknowledge God as an idea not the belief in God as that, an idea? Is the belief in God as an idea thought up by man, not the belief in God?

---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:47 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Crysis

Meh, that's pretty stupid logic but;

I don't think all religions are bad, I think religions can be amazing. So if atheism was a religion I wouldn't mind, as long as they promote free thought & secularism I'm fine with it. I don't know why people get so butthurt when Atheism is called a religion, there are religions that don't have dogma and are pretty amazing.

Is it?

[Babylon]

"In your disbelief of God, do you not acknowledge that God is an idea created by man? Is to acknowledge God as an idea not the belief in God as that, an idea? Is the belief in God as an idea thought up by man, not the belief in God?"

Okay fuck you this is making more sense, but I don't like it.

[Babylon]

"In your disbelief of God, do you not acknowledge that God is an idea created by man? Is to acknowledge God as an idea not the belief in God as that, an idea? Is the belief in God as an idea thought up by man, not the belief in God?"

Okay fuck you this is making more sense, but I don't like it.

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by IamThugBro

First of all,Im not really an atheist. I have my own beliefs.

Secondly- "Muhammad was engaged to Aisha when she was only 6 year old and he was 51, and consummated the marriage while she was still pre-pubescent, aged 9 lunar years old. Thus he fulfilled all three requirements needed for a positive diagnosis."
- Wikislam-The Online Resource On Islam

^^That is confirmed by various Muslim Scholars too,It is written in the ancient islamic scriptures too,Ill post the videos to that when I get on a laptop.

I'm pretty sure Muhammad was a prophet who spoke to Allah (or God). Allah is just the Islamic term for a monotheistic deity or presence ( agreeing with @Askari ).

The scriptures on Muhammad (including the Qur'an) seem to suggest he was a terrible wife beating misogynist who then promoted such behavior through the Islamic religion and scriptures.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Wife_Beating_in_Islam

I'm not going to suggest this means there are no redeemable qualities about Islam, because I am quite sure there are many.

Yet, supposedly the stories of Muhammad and the Qur'an are largely adapted from the earlier Judeo-Christian scriptures. Hence the many similarities between the three monotheistic religions (ex. Halal being similar to Kosher).

Just thought I put my word in.

Also, I don't believe in atheists… I think they are just agnostics in denial. Atheism is silly, as it claims truth in there being no god/gods despite any evidence. Agnosticism admits we simply don't know.

-FREAK-

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Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

AGREED. KEEP IT SMART 100. Atheism is an organized belief and therefore a structured philosophy similar to religion. Agnosticism is a little bit more hazy of a subject… intentionally so.

-FREAK-

---------- Post added at 02:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

AGREED. KEEP IT SMART 100. Atheism is an organized belief and therefore a structured philosophy similar to religion. Agnosticism is a little bit more hazy of a subject… intentionally so.

-FREAK-

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by IamThugBro

First of all,Im not really an atheist. I have my own beliefs.

Secondly- "Muhammad was engaged to Aisha when she was only 6 year old and he was 51, and consummated the marriage while she was still pre-pubescent, aged 9 lunar years old. Thus he fulfilled all three requirements needed for a positive diagnosis."
- Wikislam-The Online Resource On Islam

^^That is confirmed by various Muslim Scholars too,It is written in the ancient islamic scriptures too,Ill post the videos to that when I get on a laptop.

I'm pretty sure Muhammad was a prophet who spoke to Allah (or God). Allah is just the Islamic term for a monotheistic deity or presence ( agreeing with @Askari ).

The scriptures on Muhammad (including the Qur'an) seem to suggest he was a terrible wife beating misogynist who then promoted such behavior through the Islamic religion and scriptures.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Wife_Beating_in_Islam

I'm not going to suggest this means there are no redeemable qualities about Islam, because I am quite sure there are many.

Yet, supposedly the stories of Muhammad and the Qur'an are largely adapted from the earlier Judeo-Christian scriptures. Hence the many similarities between the three monotheistic religions (ex. Halal being similar to Kosher).

Just thought I put my word in.

Also, I don't believe in atheists… I think they are just agnostics in denial. Atheism is silly, as it claims truth in there being no god/gods despite any evidence. Agnosticism admits we simply don't know.

-FREAK-

---------- Post added at 02:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:10 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

AGREED. KEEP IT SMART 100. Atheism is an organized belief and therefore a structured philosophy similar to religion. Agnosticism is a little bit more hazy of a subject… intentionally so.

-FREAK-

---------- Post added at 02:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Victor Mancini

To acknowledge God, is to believe in God. The lack of belief is acknowledgement. Agnosticism, and Atheism are both theological ideologies. Religious pursuit is a theological interest. Therefore The theological disbelief in the concept of God is the acknowledgement, and subsequent belief in God, thus a religion.

AGREED. KEEP IT SMART 100. Atheism is an organized belief and therefore a structured philosophy similar to religion. Agnosticism is a little bit more hazy of a subject… intentionally so.

-FREAK-

There is no wife beating in Islam. Don't just read something from one source that any muslim hater could've written and believe it. No wife beating In Islam.

There is no wife beating in Islam. Don't just read something from one source that any muslim hater could've written and believe it. No wife beating In Islam.

[Thugasanti]

@Fidel Z

Islamic Scholars Teaching how to BEAT your wife according to Islam (Religion of Peace) - YouTube

Islamic Scholars Teaching how to BEAT your wife according to Islam (Religion of Peace) - YouTube

Mods-Take note,Im not being a racist or a bigot here. I am just supporting Freak's statement with a proof/theory

[Thugasanti]

@Fidel Z

Islamic Scholars Teaching how to BEAT your wife according to Islam (Religion of Peace) - YouTube

Islamic Scholars Teaching how to BEAT your wife according to Islam (Religion of Peace) - YouTube

Mods-Take note,Im not being a racist or a bigot here. I am just supporting Freak's statement with a proof/theory

[Babylon]

Wife-Beating is clear in the Koran:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Beat_your_...(Qur%27an_4:34)

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Beat_your_...(Qur%27an_4:34)

No hate here, just showing you guys something.

[Babylon]

Wife-Beating is clear in the Koran:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Beat_your_...(Qur%27an_4:34)

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Beat_your_...(Qur%27an_4:34)

No hate here, just showing you guys something.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Askari

All religions have both positives and negatives. I saw this comment on the Eth thread and I had to address it.



"How can you prove Allah was a paedophile? Did he touch you? Show me us on the doll where the imaginary, spiritual deity touched you... Lol. That is easily the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. You've received a ban for that because it's attacking someone's belief system; nobody would attempt to hang out your presumably Atheist stance in such a manner." (My original response)

Let it be known that I am not religious; probably Atheist if I HAD to choose; even then I prefer to detach myself from any particular sect out of a desire to explore the area in a lot more depth before potentially dedicating my entire faith to something.

This shit really bugs me. Atheism itself is inheriting all the darker traits of traditional religion; hatred and the belittling of the beliefs of others. So many Atheists think believing in nothing and basing faith in scientific fact/abstinence immediately makes them smarter and better people than, say, someone who goes to church every Sunday and lives by the bible; Atheists (generally speaking) seem to think this entitles them to mock, ridicule or lambaste followers of the historic religions based on the sectarian and discriminatory facets therein. It's a real shame that they can't see how hypocritical that is.

There's an extremely fine line between Atheism and adopting a sectarian attitude - masked in 'knowledge' and 'facts' - towards others based on what they believe. Nobody should be made to feel persecuted for what they believe in.

Sorry my man but you've been dragged in by a troll.

And Atheism is just living your life without it being dictated by religion because well, you don't believe in it.

Religion causes so many problems it's crazy.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Askari

All religions have both positives and negatives. I saw this comment on the Eth thread and I had to address it.



"How can you prove Allah was a paedophile? Did he touch you? Show me us on the doll where the imaginary, spiritual deity touched you... Lol. That is easily the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. You've received a ban for that because it's attacking someone's belief system; nobody would attempt to hang out your presumably Atheist stance in such a manner." (My original response)

Let it be known that I am not religious; probably Atheist if I HAD to choose; even then I prefer to detach myself from any particular sect out of a desire to explore the area in a lot more depth before potentially dedicating my entire faith to something.

This shit really bugs me. Atheism itself is inheriting all the darker traits of traditional religion; hatred and the belittling of the beliefs of others. So many Atheists think believing in nothing and basing faith in scientific fact/abstinence immediately makes them smarter and better people than, say, someone who goes to church every Sunday and lives by the bible; Atheists (generally speaking) seem to think this entitles them to mock, ridicule or lambaste followers of the historic religions based on the sectarian and discriminatory facets therein. It's a real shame that they can't see how hypocritical that is.

There's an extremely fine line between Atheism and adopting a sectarian attitude - masked in 'knowledge' and 'facts' - towards others based on what they believe. Nobody should be made to feel persecuted for what they believe in.

Sorry my man but you've been dragged in by a troll.

And Atheism is just living your life without it being dictated by religion because well, you don't believe in it.

Religion causes so many problems it's crazy.