Serious Problem Here That I've Seen.

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@Juno thats a great idea.

@Verity You Shouldn't Have A Preset Numer To Rate A Verse You've Never Read. If Its Bad Its Bad. But It Seemed Like Thats What you Said.

But As Verity Said, Leaving Detailed Votes On Why You Didn't Think They Had A Good Verse Will Also Limit The Revenge Voting and Negativity That Comes With It.

@Juno thats a great idea.

@Verity You Shouldn't Have A Preset Numer To Rate A Verse You've Never Read. If Its Bad Its Bad. But It Seemed Like Thats What you Said.

But As Verity Said, Leaving Detailed Votes On Why You Didn't Think They Had A Good Verse Will Also Limit The Revenge Voting and Negativity That Comes With It.

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as much as i agree with this notion, ponder on this... where are the battles, present right now, that are actually worth to be on the hotlist?

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as much as i agree with this notion, ponder on this... where are the battles, present right now, that are actually worth to be on the hotlist?

[IV]

Originally Posted by iQ™

@Juno thats a great idea.

@Verity You Shouldn't Have A Preset Numer To Rate A Verse You've Never Read. If Its Bad Its Bad. But It Seemed Like Thats What you Said.

But As Verity Said, Leaving Detailed Votes On Why You Didn't Think They Had A Good Verse Will Also Limit The Revenge Voting and Negativity That Comes With It.

Lol no, that's not what I mean AT ALL. I meant i'm not afraid of giving 2 if the verse deserves a 2, or a 3, or 4.. 5.. etc etc. the low rates are there for a reason and i use them when they're needed.

I can find a positive with pretty much ANY verse where the member has put a bit of effort in and taken it serious. I'll point at least one positive out from each verse regardless of how bad the verse is, and then outline their weaker points and give advice for improvement. This way the vote doesn't seem so negative, in fact a lot of noobs PM me and thank me for the advice, and then i check their battles out again and they've actually taken some of the tips on board.

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That way they don't mind being voted a 4, 3, 2, 1 etc..

[IV]

Originally Posted by iQ™

@Juno thats a great idea.

@Verity You Shouldn't Have A Preset Numer To Rate A Verse You've Never Read. If Its Bad Its Bad. But It Seemed Like Thats What you Said.

But As Verity Said, Leaving Detailed Votes On Why You Didn't Think They Had A Good Verse Will Also Limit The Revenge Voting and Negativity That Comes With It.

Lol no, that's not what I mean AT ALL. I meant i'm not afraid of giving 2 if the verse deserves a 2, or a 3, or 4.. 5.. etc etc. the low rates are there for a reason and i use them when they're needed.

I can find a positive with pretty much ANY verse where the member has put a bit of effort in and taken it serious. I'll point at least one positive out from each verse regardless of how bad the verse is, and then outline their weaker points and give advice for improvement. This way the vote doesn't seem so negative, in fact a lot of noobs PM me and thank me for the advice, and then i check their battles out again and they've actually taken some of the tips on board.

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That way they don't mind being voted a 4, 3, 2, 1 etc..

[Phil Banks]

<--- one of the most slept on hate voted mofo's of all time........ doug funny was a better name btw

[Phil Banks]

<--- one of the most slept on hate voted mofo's of all time........ doug funny was a better name btw

[Askari]

Originally Posted by iQ™

We're So Quick To Vote On Our Battles With Harsh Criticism. Giving 6-7's For Someone With A Bad Verse. Thats Not The Problem, Sometimes People Have A Bad Verse. Where The Problem Lies Is Letting These Guys In The Top Ten Get Away With Having Hotlisters And Winning Battles They Shouldn't.

This Hasn't Happened To Me But I Was Just Reading A Battle And Wondering WTF It Was Doing On The Hotlist. With That Being Said, Everyone Needs To Get A Little More Active And Start Voting On These No Name Scrubs Who Are New To This Shit And Put'm In Check.

These Guys Are Being Put On The Text Featured As The Best On The Site Because They Keep Winning These Horrible Battles, Hence Why No Good Competition Chooses To Try The Site Because They See That Shit Or They Get Here And Lose To Some Stupid Shit.

Now I Admit That I've Been doing The Same Shit, But Not Anymore, If Anything Atleast Monitor The Hotlist And When You See A Name That Doesn't Look Like It Belongs Check It Out, If They Got A Dope Verse Then Give'm What They Deserve But If They Don't Then Knock'm Down A Notch.

We Can't Be Knock'n Eachother Down, And Not Them. Its Bad Enough I'm Referring To Them As A Different Part Of The Site Lmao, But Atleast Check The Hotlist When You Get On, And Lets Get That Regulated.

I Know Voting Can Be Boring And Strenuous At Times But If Everyone Pitched In It Wouldn't Be That Much. As Long As Its Split Up Then It Shouldn't Be To Bad. And Lets Get This Shit Popping Yo.

I just voted on pretty much all of the hotlist battles. The highest rating I gave was a 3, apart from one 6 for a DPS member who actually managed to string a few decent concepts together. I'm lowering VP for those who vote too highly on battles now too, to me that's still a form of retarded voting and shouldn't be allowed.

You're completely right Mikey, even if everyone voted on one or two of those battles a day it'd make a huge difference.

[Askari]

Originally Posted by iQ™

We're So Quick To Vote On Our Battles With Harsh Criticism. Giving 6-7's For Someone With A Bad Verse. Thats Not The Problem, Sometimes People Have A Bad Verse. Where The Problem Lies Is Letting These Guys In The Top Ten Get Away With Having Hotlisters And Winning Battles They Shouldn't.

This Hasn't Happened To Me But I Was Just Reading A Battle And Wondering WTF It Was Doing On The Hotlist. With That Being Said, Everyone Needs To Get A Little More Active And Start Voting On These No Name Scrubs Who Are New To This Shit And Put'm In Check.

These Guys Are Being Put On The Text Featured As The Best On The Site Because They Keep Winning These Horrible Battles, Hence Why No Good Competition Chooses To Try The Site Because They See That Shit Or They Get Here And Lose To Some Stupid Shit.

Now I Admit That I've Been doing The Same Shit, But Not Anymore, If Anything Atleast Monitor The Hotlist And When You See A Name That Doesn't Look Like It Belongs Check It Out, If They Got A Dope Verse Then Give'm What They Deserve But If They Don't Then Knock'm Down A Notch.

We Can't Be Knock'n Eachother Down, And Not Them. Its Bad Enough I'm Referring To Them As A Different Part Of The Site Lmao, But Atleast Check The Hotlist When You Get On, And Lets Get That Regulated.

I Know Voting Can Be Boring And Strenuous At Times But If Everyone Pitched In It Wouldn't Be That Much. As Long As Its Split Up Then It Shouldn't Be To Bad. And Lets Get This Shit Popping Yo.

I just voted on pretty much all of the hotlist battles. The highest rating I gave was a 3, apart from one 6 for a DPS member who actually managed to string a few decent concepts together. I'm lowering VP for those who vote too highly on battles now too, to me that's still a form of retarded voting and shouldn't be allowed.

You're completely right Mikey, even if everyone voted on one or two of those battles a day it'd make a huge difference.

[Phonocide]

Can we see our own VP? Or is it only mod accessible?

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Can we see our own VP? Or is it only mod accessible?

[Just C]

Mod only..

[Just C]

Mod only..

[Wizdumb]

It seems like nobody could care less about the voting situation UNTIL they drop a battle. Then they start panicking and bitching about the lack of votes, despite them not contributing.

Theres enough people on this site(tournaments included which is pathetic) who honestly just dont give a fuck about voting on other people battles. Forum link advertisements hardly ever work & now that the FVC threads are abolished theres virtually no way of guaranteeing fair voting/feedback.

@Just €, a couple days before you took down the threads i was posting battle links in all the non-dps fvc threads & i got about 4 or 5 fvc votes on EACH of those battles along w/ some nice feedback, which was actually pretty dope.

Then the day you abolished the threads i dropped vs. Mindfuck. I tried to advertise as much as I could using the forums, but i literally got NO 'fair voters' to check out the battle and the result was a 90% beginners voter turnout...

That being said, despite the two weak members of the club,(based on skill level & the quality of voting expo's I honestly think Blocc & V3Numb shouldn't have ever been accepted) the FVC was actually doing a pretty good & consistent job.

Personally I think kicking the two unreliable members out & continuing to operate the rest of the threads would've been a much more efficient idea, even if its only temporary, getting rid of a functional 'Fair Voters Club' is honestly a huge step backwards as far as the quality of voter-turnout & the consistency in which fair respected voters frequent battles and actually drop votes.

[Wizdumb]

It seems like nobody could care less about the voting situation UNTIL they drop a battle. Then they start panicking and bitching about the lack of votes, despite them not contributing.

Theres enough people on this site(tournaments included which is pathetic) who honestly just dont give a fuck about voting on other people battles. Forum link advertisements hardly ever work & now that the FVC threads are abolished theres virtually no way of guaranteeing fair voting/feedback.

@Just €, a couple days before you took down the threads i was posting battle links in all the non-dps fvc threads & i got about 4 or 5 fvc votes on EACH of those battles along w/ some nice feedback, which was actually pretty dope.

Then the day you abolished the threads i dropped vs. Mindfuck. I tried to advertise as much as I could using the forums, but i literally got NO 'fair voters' to check out the battle and the result was a 90% beginners voter turnout...

That being said, despite the two weak members of the club,(based on skill level & the quality of voting expo's I honestly think Blocc & V3Numb shouldn't have ever been accepted) the FVC was actually doing a pretty good & consistent job.

Personally I think kicking the two unreliable members out & continuing to operate the rest of the threads would've been a much more efficient idea, even if its only temporary, getting rid of a functional 'Fair Voters Club' is honestly a huge step backwards as far as the quality of voter-turnout & the consistency in which fair respected voters frequent battles and actually drop votes.

[Just C]

Yeah I can see that being the case. I'm going to have it back up and running correctly real soon. Really @Askari is in charge if text side but from what I can gather he has slot of RL shit on his plate which is far more important, as you can imagine. I might just (while he's busy) get to work on recruiting some FVC Members. They'll be up and ready with their threads by the end of the Day.

[Just C]

Yeah I can see that being the case. I'm going to have it back up and running correctly real soon. Really @Askari is in charge if text side but from what I can gather he has slot of RL shit on his plate which is far more important, as you can imagine. I might just (while he's busy) get to work on recruiting some FVC Members. They'll be up and ready with their threads by the end of the Day.