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Punch ins aren't battle rap *♀️
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Punch ins aren't battle rap *♀️
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Tell that to Dizaster
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Unfortunately, these days I rate battles by mentally giving out 5's and 6's and leaving the site disappointed.
Only a handful of people get busy enough to earn 8's and 9's regularly, maybe an occasional 10.
I've seen cases where the shittiest battlers rate top tier battlers a 6 or 7..& expect nothing less than a 7 on their shit or its a hate vote.
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Unfortunately, these days I rate battles by mentally giving out 5's and 6's and leaving the site disappointed.
Only a handful of people get busy enough to earn 8's and 9's regularly, maybe an occasional 10.
I've seen cases where the shittiest battlers rate top tier battlers a 6 or 7..& expect nothing less than a 7 on their shit or its a hate vote.
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Unfortunately, these days I rate battles by mentally giving out 5's and 6's and leaving the site disappointed.
Only a handful of people get busy enough to earn 8's and 9's regularly, maybe an occasional 10.
I've seen cases where the shittiest battlers rate top tier battlers a 6 or 7..& expect nothing less than a 7 on their shit or its a hate vote.
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I think we had this conversation a while back. It's ass that it's like that. I mainly got it when I text battled. Dudes were giving me 5s and shit talking about "you've improved. Dope drop" damn what was I a 3 before? And 5+Dope don't add up.
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Unfortunately, these days I rate battles by mentally giving out 5's and 6's and leaving the site disappointed.
Only a handful of people get busy enough to earn 8's and 9's regularly, maybe an occasional 10.
I've seen cases where the shittiest battlers rate top tier battlers a 6 or 7..& expect nothing less than a 7 on their shit or its a hate vote.
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I think we had this conversation a while back. It's ass that it's like that. I mainly got it when I text battled. Dudes were giving me 5s and shit talking about "you've improved. Dope drop" damn what was I a 3 before? And 5+Dope don't add up.
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Allowing the uploading of vocals is usually a good thing. Let's say someone has a garbage ass mic... they can add certain filters and maybe condense the highs and lows so that it sounds like a better mic. If they're skilled enough to do that and make their audio sound better, I think we all win in that scenario.
One can also layer vocals for chorus/reverb or to accent certain phrases or punches.. this can be seen as either a good or a bad thing. Similarly, one can straight up add reverb to the track to create echo effects, as I've seen in audio battles. Some like this, others don't.
Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath.. while this wouldn't necessarily fall into the cheating category, it could definitely make the verse sound artificial. I haven't see it done on this site yet, though. Along these lines is punching in, which goes past just omitting breathing between bars but could cause them to overlap entirely. It definitely takes away from the performance aspect of an audio battle and makes me consider whether or not a battler has the capacity to spit the shit they wrote confidently and accurately. However, if someone were to punch in, but did it damn near flawlessly, there would be a lot of finger pointing as to whether or not the person did it or not which would create some chaos.
I'd think the only way to get rid of all of this and make it pure "one take" vs "one take" is to get rid of uploading vocals, but that gets rid of a lot of other beneficial tools at the same time and could lessen the quality of battles that we hear. If you have a trash ass mic, but are able to tweak a few things with your audio to make it sound cleaner so I can hear it better to vote then by all means do it. But to allow uploading and at the same time, with regards to editing, say "_____ is prohibited but _____ is allowed" is walking a fine line.
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Agree w/ uploading verses, especially in a Tournament battle with more at stake, you'd ideally want to be able to put out your best "take", if it's a complete freestyle or live battle then it's different but definitely should be left for written battles.
Also @ OP, depends on the battle but I try to write a small break down to why I voted the way I did, agree w/ Godbody about people getting 6's & 7's they don't deserve, I'm hesitant to hand out 8's+ BUT I also try to account for the times, some 8's now wouldn't fly in 2007 but that was 15 years ago and the talent overall as grown too, some people were getting pure 9's & 10's back then too who didn't deserve them either.
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Allowing the uploading of vocals is usually a good thing. Let's say someone has a garbage ass mic... they can add certain filters and maybe condense the highs and lows so that it sounds like a better mic. If they're skilled enough to do that and make their audio sound better, I think we all win in that scenario.
One can also layer vocals for chorus/reverb or to accent certain phrases or punches.. this can be seen as either a good or a bad thing. Similarly, one can straight up add reverb to the track to create echo effects, as I've seen in audio battles. Some like this, others don't.
Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath.. while this wouldn't necessarily fall into the cheating category, it could definitely make the verse sound artificial. I haven't see it done on this site yet, though. Along these lines is punching in, which goes past just omitting breathing between bars but could cause them to overlap entirely. It definitely takes away from the performance aspect of an audio battle and makes me consider whether or not a battler has the capacity to spit the shit they wrote confidently and accurately. However, if someone were to punch in, but did it damn near flawlessly, there would be a lot of finger pointing as to whether or not the person did it or not which would create some chaos.
I'd think the only way to get rid of all of this and make it pure "one take" vs "one take" is to get rid of uploading vocals, but that gets rid of a lot of other beneficial tools at the same time and could lessen the quality of battles that we hear. If you have a trash ass mic, but are able to tweak a few things with your audio to make it sound cleaner so I can hear it better to vote then by all means do it. But to allow uploading and at the same time, with regards to editing, say "_____ is prohibited but _____ is allowed" is walking a fine line.
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Agree w/ uploading verses, especially in a Tournament battle with more at stake, you'd ideally want to be able to put out your best "take", if it's a complete freestyle or live battle then it's different but definitely should be left for written battles.
Also @ OP, depends on the battle but I try to write a small break down to why I voted the way I did, agree w/ Godbody about people getting 6's & 7's they don't deserve, I'm hesitant to hand out 8's+ BUT I also try to account for the times, some 8's now wouldn't fly in 2007 but that was 15 years ago and the talent overall as grown too, some people were getting pure 9's & 10's back then too who didn't deserve them either.
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Agree w/ uploading verses, especially in a Tournament battle with more at stake, you'd ideally want to be able to put out your best "take", if it's a complete freestyle or live battle then it's different but definitely should be left for written battles.
Also @ OP, depends on the battle but I try to write a small break down to why I voted the way I did, agree w/ Godbody about people getting 6's & 7's they don't deserve, I'm hesitant to hand out 8's+ BUT I also try to account for the times, some 8's now wouldn't fly in 2007 but that was 15 years ago and the talent overall as grown too, some people were getting pure 9's & 10's back then too who didn't deserve them either.
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Well it also doesn't help when dudes are voting based on Punch count. Like if I have more punches I won? Wtf. What about creativity, performance, delivery, etc?
Some battlers are punchers, some battlers are different type. Some just like talking real shit to a person. But according to LB, you gotta have the same style or it's a no no
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Agree w/ uploading verses, especially in a Tournament battle with more at stake, you'd ideally want to be able to put out your best "take", if it's a complete freestyle or live battle then it's different but definitely should be left for written battles.
Also @ OP, depends on the battle but I try to write a small break down to why I voted the way I did, agree w/ Godbody about people getting 6's & 7's they don't deserve, I'm hesitant to hand out 8's+ BUT I also try to account for the times, some 8's now wouldn't fly in 2007 but that was 15 years ago and the talent overall as grown too, some people were getting pure 9's & 10's back then too who didn't deserve them either.
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Well it also doesn't help when dudes are voting based on Punch count. Like if I have more punches I won? Wtf. What about creativity, performance, delivery, etc?
Some battlers are punchers, some battlers are different type. Some just like talking real shit to a person. But according to LB, you gotta have the same style or it's a no no
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Well it also doesn't help when dudes are voting based on Punch count. Like if I have more punches I won? Wtf. What about creativity, performance, delivery, etc?
Some battlers are punchers, some battlers are different type. Some just like talking real shit to a person. But according to LB, you gotta have the same style or it's a no no
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That's more than facts. I've tweaked the way I write just to please the crowd with more punches... then they say, "well, Phroxen had non stop punches and they were dope but there were just too many punches back to back to back..." Like motherfuckers, make up your mind.
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Well it also doesn't help when dudes are voting based on Punch count. Like if I have more punches I won? Wtf. What about creativity, performance, delivery, etc?
Some battlers are punchers, some battlers are different type. Some just like talking real shit to a person. But according to LB, you gotta have the same style or it's a no no
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That's more than facts. I've tweaked the way I write just to please the crowd with more punches... then they say, "well, Phroxen had non stop punches and they were dope but there were just too many punches back to back to back..." Like motherfuckers, make up your mind.
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That's more than facts. I've tweaked the way I write just to please the crowd with more punches... then they say, "well, Phroxen had non stop punches and they were dope but there were just too many punches back to back to back..." Like motherfuckers, make up your mind.
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Lmaoo real shit. Can't even talk to a nigga soul anymore T_T
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That's more than facts. I've tweaked the way I write just to please the crowd with more punches... then they say, "well, Phroxen had non stop punches and they were dope but there were just too many punches back to back to back..." Like motherfuckers, make up your mind.
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Lmaoo real shit. Can't even talk to a nigga soul anymore T_T
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People think shit that doesn't make any sense but packs in a lot of multis and some wordplay is crazy. People go crazy for a verse while I'm doing the Pat Stay "what does that mean?"
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People think shit that doesn't make any sense but packs in a lot of multis and some wordplay is crazy. People go crazy for a verse while I'm doing the Pat Stay "what does that mean?"
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I don't think people should be able to fuckin' mix and master their tournament verses before uploading haha.
I like that it kinda puts a little pressure on you, when you fuck up, by having to re-do everything, makes you wanna get it right the first time. Honestly probably makes the rapper a better rapper, but learning breath control etc.
(talking written verses here obvs, not freestyles).
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I don't think people should be able to fuckin' mix and master their tournament verses before uploading haha.
I like that it kinda puts a little pressure on you, when you fuck up, by having to re-do everything, makes you wanna get it right the first time. Honestly probably makes the rapper a better rapper, but learning breath control etc.
(talking written verses here obvs, not freestyles).
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