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  #21  
Unread 03-30-2020, 08:03 AM
Kiwi Peewee
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I actually agree with @MadVerbs, I think there's a strong argument to make for why recycling shouldn't be against the rules. Although, if you could just sit back on some really fire bars/concepts you've had over the years and pull them out again whenever you needed them, I think it would take away some of the endless creative drive to stay at the top that makes being a champion so difficult and respected. idk, it's a tough one on what the rule should be.

As far as what happens here though I think it's pretty clear. We can't DQ Grizz and Rican for reusing a bar from a battle that has since been deleted, then turn around a few months later and be like "nah it's all good now". The rule is not a new one, and a long-time member like MV should have been aware of it. Thank you for addressing the issue head on and being up front about it, unfortunately a lot of battlers wouldn't do the same.
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Unread 03-30-2020, 08:03 AM   #21
 
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I actually agree with @MadVerbs, I think there's a strong argument to make for why recycling shouldn't be against the rules. Although, if you could just sit back on some really fire bars/concepts you've had over the years and pull them out again whenever you needed them, I think it would take away some of the endless creative drive to stay at the top that makes being a champion so difficult and respected. idk, it's a tough one on what the rule should be.

As far as what happens here though I think it's pretty clear. We can't DQ Grizz and Rican for reusing a bar from a battle that has since been deleted, then turn around a few months later and be like "nah it's all good now". The rule is not a new one, and a long-time member like MV should have been aware of it. Thank you for addressing the issue head on and being up front about it, unfortunately a lot of battlers wouldn't do the same.
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Unread 03-30-2020, 12:18 PM
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Unknowingly doing something that there isn't a clear rule about shouldn't be a disqualification. It's just a learning experience.
This is why we need a clear, comprehensive ruleset posted where everyone can easily find it. And, as far as I know, there isn't.
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Unread 03-30-2020, 12:18 PM   #22
 
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Originally Posted by Easton View Post
Unknowingly doing something that there isn't a clear rule about shouldn't be a disqualification. It's just a learning experience.
This is why we need a clear, comprehensive ruleset posted where everyone can easily find it. And, as far as I know, there isn't.
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- space_dabree, discussing the outcome of his battle with Shodan.
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"Your iq is too low to vote on my shit. Grab ddthabeast, take some literacy courses, get hooked on phonics and come talk to me then."

- Teeteegee, discussing a fair vote left which Shodan left on a battle of his.
Spoiler for ILLoKWENT's declaration of love:
"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
- ILLoKWENT, in response to a rhetorical question.
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Unread 03-30-2020, 12:35 PM
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This is why we need a clear, comprehensive ruleset posted where everyone can easily find it. And, as far as I know, there isn't.
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The rules that exist haven’t been updated since 2012. This became an issue not too long ago when biting punishments didn’t match what was listed on the official site rules. The section needs an overhaul with clear examples and definitions of each infraction to avoid these sorts of issues.
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This is why we need a clear, comprehensive ruleset posted where everyone can easily find it. And, as far as I know, there isn't.
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The rules that exist haven’t been updated since 2012. This became an issue not too long ago when biting punishments didn’t match what was listed on the official site rules. The section needs an overhaul with clear examples and definitions of each infraction to avoid these sorts of issues.
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Unread 03-30-2020, 12:47 PM
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The rules that exist haven’t been updated since 2012. This became an issue not too long ago when biting punishments didn’t match what was listed on the official site rules. The section needs an overhaul with clear examples and definitions of each infraction to avoid these sorts of issues.
when i was a mod, i was making this with shodans help, but that was close to the time everything blew up. also on a side note, there have been like 50 rules changes made by mods, so there's very few "set in stone" rules on lb.

set in stone rules

1. dont use others content
2. don't reuse your own content
3. don't be an extreme racist/bigot
4. dont self vote

---------- Post added at 07:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:43 AM ----------

OH SHIT I FORGOT!

x had me stop writing the rules, because after that shit with rant, he decided to hire a lawyer to write out a set of rules. i'm not sure he ever did that, but hey, it could still be in the works.
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The rules that exist haven’t been updated since 2012. This became an issue not too long ago when biting punishments didn’t match what was listed on the official site rules. The section needs an overhaul with clear examples and definitions of each infraction to avoid these sorts of issues.
when i was a mod, i was making this with shodans help, but that was close to the time everything blew up. also on a side note, there have been like 50 rules changes made by mods, so there's very few "set in stone" rules on lb.

set in stone rules

1. dont use others content
2. don't reuse your own content
3. don't be an extreme racist/bigot
4. dont self vote

---------- Post added at 07:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:43 AM ----------

OH SHIT I FORGOT!

x had me stop writing the rules, because after that shit with rant, he decided to hire a lawyer to write out a set of rules. i'm not sure he ever did that, but hey, it could still be in the works.
 
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Unread 03-30-2020, 12:55 PM
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Yeah because hiring a lawyer who most likely understands nothing about LB would effectively write rules for LB. Lmfao.
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Yeah because hiring a lawyer who most likely understands nothing about LB would effectively write rules for LB. Lmfao.
 
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Unread 03-30-2020, 08:21 PM
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x had me stop writing the rules, because after that shit with rant, he decided to hire a lawyer to write out a set of rules. i'm not sure he ever did that, but hey, it could still be in the works.
when you sign up now, there's like a ,.. Terms of service, that seems like it was written by a lawyer, but tbh ..

The rules and what was put in the "contract" ,felt like signing a slave deal just signing up here..lol i guarantee it's not valid..plus.. that BeatDisk thing they had, had beats for sale but people could rap over them for free on here, which had to be a crime..defeated the purpose of selling,for every feature for free, you costed us the price of the beat..
rules be flimsy depending on who it is, sometimes..
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x had me stop writing the rules, because after that shit with rant, he decided to hire a lawyer to write out a set of rules. i'm not sure he ever did that, but hey, it could still be in the works.
when you sign up now, there's like a ,.. Terms of service, that seems like it was written by a lawyer, but tbh ..

The rules and what was put in the "contract" ,felt like signing a slave deal just signing up here..lol i guarantee it's not valid..plus.. that BeatDisk thing they had, had beats for sale but people could rap over them for free on here, which had to be a crime..defeated the purpose of selling,for every feature for free, you costed us the price of the beat..
rules be flimsy depending on who it is, sometimes..
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