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Unread 08-31-2015, 03:23 PM
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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
 
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Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
^^^ lol this.. thats the whole point of coding, to solve issues like this so you don't have to do it by hand. Instead u write an algorithm that does it all for you
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Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
^^^ lol this.. thats the whole point of coding, to solve issues like this so you don't have to do it by hand. Instead u write an algorithm that does it all for you
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Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
I wonder if it would be possible to grep every members points rankings into a spread sheet with some algorithm to assign a ranking according to that. It seems like anyone could do that and put up a page for it. The only problems would be filtering the users out of the fuckload long list that haven't logged in for years and then server load for constantly checking if it's changed for each active user.

Actually, this is a horrible idea. Nevermind.
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Calculate the battle record of every single member of the site who battles, manually? Lol. Right.
I wonder if it would be possible to grep every members points rankings into a spread sheet with some algorithm to assign a ranking according to that. It seems like anyone could do that and put up a page for it. The only problems would be filtering the users out of the fuckload long list that haven't logged in for years and then server load for constantly checking if it's changed for each active user.

Actually, this is a horrible idea. Nevermind.
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Think of LetsBeef like a sandbox where things can be added and removed but the "sand" is the code so things don't always "mesh" with our specific sand and changing the "sand" would literally be like changing sand one piece at a time.

Basically we've got to work with what we've got for the time being and have work arounds.

In the mean time why not simply battle in the exclusive arena? Nobody ever does it because they want votes but you then they complain about "low votes, noob votes, shitty votes, etc" in the basic arena. The FVC should also make voting in the exclusive arena a priority and if we as a userbase agree we could all make it a point to vote on exclusive arenas.
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Think of LetsBeef like a sandbox where things can be added and removed but the "sand" is the code so things don't always "mesh" with our specific sand and changing the "sand" would literally be like changing sand one piece at a time.

Basically we've got to work with what we've got for the time being and have work arounds.

In the mean time why not simply battle in the exclusive arena? Nobody ever does it because they want votes but you then they complain about "low votes, noob votes, shitty votes, etc" in the basic arena. The FVC should also make voting in the exclusive arena a priority and if we as a userbase agree we could all make it a point to vote on exclusive arenas.
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i went to school for coding just shoot me the wire-frame and i could try to sort through it

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we need multiple arenas
and to change the name
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i went to school for coding just shoot me the wire-frame and i could try to sort through it

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i went to school for coding just shoot me the wire-frame and i could try to sort through it

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we need multiple arenas
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What kind of code can you write?
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this shit is easy to code though., but i only know Java and Python
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this shit is easy to code though., but i only know Java and Python
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@Rant word... we were told not to suggest things that require coding..but I suggested this because while I may not know much about coding, I know this isn't something complex

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

Like someone said earlier, the admins could literally assign the tiers by hand using mod permissions.. the same way ya'll give out Grand Champion usertitles or w/e... Or like Mindless said, have some kind of metric to determine an individuals skill level

either way, coding the shit itself shouldnt be that hard. the harder part would be deciding how we determine who falls into what tier or if we can implement the current ranking system (stars & skill points) into assigning someone a tier

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I wonder if it would be possible to grep every members points rankings into a spread sheet with some algorithm to assign a ranking according to that. It seems like anyone could do that and put up a page for it. The only problems would be filtering the users out of the fuckload long list that haven't logged in for years and then server load for constantly checking if it's changed for each active user.

Actually, this is a horrible idea. Nevermind.
So then we can make the tier thing an 'opt in' system where ya'll hand out tiers to active battlers based on who asks to be a part of the new system

solves the problem of going through all the inactive accounts
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@Rant word... we were told not to suggest things that require coding..but I suggested this because while I may not know much about coding, I know this isn't something complex

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

Like someone said earlier, the admins could literally assign the tiers by hand using mod permissions.. the same way ya'll give out Grand Champion usertitles or w/e... Or like Mindless said, have some kind of metric to determine an individuals skill level

either way, coding the shit itself shouldnt be that hard. the harder part would be deciding how we determine who falls into what tier or if we can implement the current ranking system (stars & skill points) into assigning someone a tier

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I wonder if it would be possible to grep every members points rankings into a spread sheet with some algorithm to assign a ranking according to that. It seems like anyone could do that and put up a page for it. The only problems would be filtering the users out of the fuckload long list that haven't logged in for years and then server load for constantly checking if it's changed for each active user.

Actually, this is a horrible idea. Nevermind.
So then we can make the tier thing an 'opt in' system where ya'll hand out tiers to active battlers based on who asks to be a part of the new system

solves the problem of going through all the inactive accounts
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Skill is so subjective though and you know there's going to be a huge shit storm of people arguing they should be on a higher tier.
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Skill is so subjective though and you know there's going to be a huge shit storm of people arguing they should be on a higher tier.
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That's what I'm sayin though...the hardest part will be assigning people tiers. If anything we could have polls to decide which tier ppl belong in & go with the majority vote...but at the same time this site isnt active enough for those polls lol

Or we could just put everyone at the lowest tier by default

idk much about coding but I used to fuck around n code some type of bullshit and the programming language used If, then, else statements..dont know if thats a universal thing in every programming language or what

but anyway everybody starts at the lowest tier

IF they have a certain win % or win a certain consecutive amount THEN they make it to mid tier, if not then the ELSE part comes in...ELSE, they go up +1 for every W until they earn that mid tier gradually

...basically ya'll should put something in the coding where if a Low tier dude beats 5 top tier dudes in a row, or 8 out of 10 (80% win percentage against top tier niggas) let's say normally it'd take 50 battles to go from low to top tier....but you could use a If,then,else statement to say "If JON beats X amount of people, then JON reaches __ tier" or "If JON reaches X win percentage after Y amount of battles, then JON reaches __ tier" and just set the conditions it takes to reach mid tier and top tier assuming everyone starts at low

Then you could do the same thing for people when they lose. If a top tier is constantly losing to a mid/low tier..let's say they had 10 battles against lower tiered opponents and lost 8. It might take them 50 losses to go -50 or -100 or w/e, but since they lost 8 out 10, an If/then/else statement kicks in where they automatically drop a tier
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22 Won / 5 Lost
 
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That's what I'm sayin though...the hardest part will be assigning people tiers. If anything we could have polls to decide which tier ppl belong in & go with the majority vote...but at the same time this site isnt active enough for those polls lol

Or we could just put everyone at the lowest tier by default

idk much about coding but I used to fuck around n code some type of bullshit and the programming language used If, then, else statements..dont know if thats a universal thing in every programming language or what

but anyway everybody starts at the lowest tier

IF they have a certain win % or win a certain consecutive amount THEN they make it to mid tier, if not then the ELSE part comes in...ELSE, they go up +1 for every W until they earn that mid tier gradually

...basically ya'll should put something in the coding where if a Low tier dude beats 5 top tier dudes in a row, or 8 out of 10 (80% win percentage against top tier niggas) let's say normally it'd take 50 battles to go from low to top tier....but you could use a If,then,else statement to say "If JON beats X amount of people, then JON reaches __ tier" or "If JON reaches X win percentage after Y amount of battles, then JON reaches __ tier" and just set the conditions it takes to reach mid tier and top tier assuming everyone starts at low

Then you could do the same thing for people when they lose. If a top tier is constantly losing to a mid/low tier..let's say they had 10 battles against lower tiered opponents and lost 8. It might take them 50 losses to go -50 or -100 or w/e, but since they lost 8 out 10, an If/then/else statement kicks in where they automatically drop a tier
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